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Heroin How much water to add?

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rexwayne

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Just strictly curiosity here. Mainly for anyone doing ecp, how much water do you add to your shot? Personally I put about 50-60 units to about .2 worth of powder. I know the more water you use the better it is on your veins, and I would use more, but the points I use are only 1ml so any more water makes it very difficult to flash before I push. I guess I could get bigger points but whatever.


Anyways, how much water do you use per shot and how much powder usually goes with it?
 
For east coast powder i use 70, no matter how many bags i'm putting in one shot. This is the most water i can use while still being able to register.
 
^You guys need 30 units of space to register? Usually when you hit a little blood jumps into the syringe, even if it's loaded....If it keeps coming out of the vein and you have to re register, I could see...

To answer, with good ECP, you can dissolve a whole gram into 1 ml of water and draw it up, you could maybe even dissolve more but that's the maximum I'd attempt. Usually, I'd shoot .4-.5 and I'd use 50-60ius on that, no problems, other than becoming a drug addict.
 
usually heroin needs very little water. i use about 1ml for a shot of, say, 200mg powder. the heroin around these parts has gone completely to shit. we only have base here, so i need to cook it with ascorbic acid to make it injectable.
 
It' not that i need all that space to register, but that's as comcortable as i can be holding the rig and stil,able to easily control the plunger. (Sorry for grammar, i'm on a tablet)
 
BlueHues said:
^You guys need 30 units of space to register? Usually when you hit a little blood jumps into the syringe, even if it's loaded....If it keeps coming out of the vein and you have to re register, I could see...

To answer, with good ECP, you can dissolve a whole gram into 1 ml of water and draw it up, you could maybe even dissolve more but that's the maximum I'd attempt. Usually, I'd shoot .4-.5 and I'd use 50-60ius on that, no problems, other than becoming a drug addict.
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This is more what I was looking for...to answer your question , no I don't need that much room it just makes things easier because I register with my index finger and my middle finger and thumb holding the pin in place. If my index finger was longer it wouldn't be so hard to flash with a full rig. When I do see a flash it's only maybe 1 or 2 units worth of blood. Never a lot then it's warm and euphoric( I hope) pretty soon .


I was really just wondering if anybody had a habit big enough that they thought all of the h wasn't dissolving into the water provided with a 1 ml rig
 
It's starts getting muddy if you try to add more than 100mgs to 10units, IMO....and yeah, there's people out there who do back to back full rigs, its more dangerous with tar, IMO, as most people heat it and it can coagulate in the syringe...Provided the powder you
re gettong is decent, you can pretty much just eyeball it and add more water if needed
 
i've often cooked shots with 2ml water. probably overkill, but the 1ml insulin syringes are practically never used here. 2ml syringes are the standard.
 
You want to use the least amount of water possible... the more water you use, the more you dilute your shot and potentially weaken it, and the longer it takes to inject therefore increasing the chance of missing. Heroin is incredibly water soluble.. you can dissolve a shit load of H, provided it's not cut to hell with crap, in a very small amount of water. Even when I was doing 8 bags in a shot, I still never had to use more than 50 units.
 
^I agree with you man, I've seen a lot of info on this site telling people to use a lot more water than necessary. They say it's easier on your veins. I notice a difference in feeling between a diluted shot of H and a concentrated one. I notice it even more with cocaine and meth, though! But don't IV either one of those unless you wanna go crazy or die kids! Seriously!

what's the official bluelight opinion on diluted versus concentrated shots? I'm sure it's on here somewhere, I'm just too inept to find it.
 
I have tried a 3 cap shot with 30 units, and 3 with 70 units . All 6 caps were from the same batch. Didn't notice any difference.
 
I'd typically use about 30-50ml tops for .3-.5 grams.This amount worked great and left me a little wiggle room if needed.
 
A friend of mine used to always, (even if only doing a couple bags in a shot) fill a 1cc rig almost all the way up with water.. the shit was basically clear. She would complain that she wasn't really getting that "rush", especially after seeing me get hit so hard (and I had a bigger habit and higher tolerance) So.. one day, I made her shot for her but the way I did it, without all that extra fucking water... and she was rocked. Never went back. The damage to your veins, I'm talking with east coast powder, isn't that magnified when using less water. My friend also started missing a lot less of her shots too because she had a lot less actual liquid volume wise to push in.. In my experience, you're IV technique and, depending on what vein you are using, the speed at which you depress the plunger, is going to be the biggest issue when it comes to hurting your veins, not water content.
 
I have never used more than .5 mL (50 units) for east coast heroin, no matter how many bags go in the shot. Usually though, if I use one bag, I'll use 30 units of water, and if I use two, around 35-40 units. It also really depends on what type of syringe I use. The last times I shot dope I had to use those 31g 1/2mL short tips because i would inject into the veins in my fingers (which is why I obviously had to stop-almost three days I believe now). In that kind of situation it is important to use a small amount of water because those tiny veins are very delicate and easy to slip out of, which calls for registering at least three times before completing the shot (not to mention, those syringes only hold 5 units max).

However, with tar it's usually a totally different story. It's fucking annoying when you can't fit the desired amount of dope into a 1mL syringe due to the shitty cuts.
 
mr.scagnattie said:
A friend of mine used to always, (even if only doing a couple bags in a shot) fill a 1cc rig almost all the way up with water.. the shit was basically clear. She would complain that she wasn't really getting that "rush", especially after seeing me get hit so hard (and I had a bigger habit and higher tolerance) So.. one day, I made her shot for her but the way I did it, without all that extra fucking water... and she was rocked. Never went back. The damage to your veins, I'm talking with east coast powder, isn't that magnified when using less water. My friend also started missing a lot less of her shots too because she had a lot less actual liquid volume wise to push in.. In my experience, you're IV technique and, depending on what vein you are using, the speed at which you depress the plunger, is going to be the biggest issue when it comes to hurting your veins, not water content.
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Very true, depends on how much of a smack in the face u want. Less water bigger hit. I think it possibly lasts longer with more water tho.
 
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