How much Test do we naturally produce ?

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benzoman12345

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I ask this because I've said a couple of times that at some point when I'm ready , I'm going to start just blasting and cruising, I'm dedicated to weights and diet is spot on, better than ever, only worry's I could have is balls shrinking and hair falling out, well as long as I've plenty HCG that's no1 sorted, and It appears my hair is thinning anyway so fuck it.

I know most guys generally cruise on 250mg per week Test or Sus, or what do you cruise on personally ?

How much on average do we produce naturally do you guys reckon, I've read different studys ?

It looks like I'm going to be going for UGL 10ml Vials, I did want to go Pharma but it is too expensive especially when you don't plan on coming off, now I am looking at ProChems TRI TEST 400mg/ml

CONTAINS:
120mg Test Enanthate
120mg Test Cypionate
160mg Test Decanoate.

I am thinking 0.5ml cruising (200mg) and 1.5ml blasting (500mg) for the price , and the 3 different long acting esters, this seems ideal

I think I'd go old skool 6 weeks on 6 weeks off (cruising) with an Oral and a short ester Injectable (NPP and yet to try Tren ACE)

Letro ALWAYS. learned that from experience, the lumps on my chest are going away and I never want to see them again.

Just curious as to what you guys cruise on, let's face it, this is a big commitment, once your in, your in, and if I'm gna do it, I'm gna do it right ;)

So yeah just wondering what u guys cruise on and what we naturally produce , another thing I've never used but will have to figure out correct doasges for is HCG, any input would be good as I plan on making 2014 my year :) !
 
benzoman12345 said:
I ask this because I've said a couple of times that at some point when I'm ready , I'm going to start just blasting and cruising, I'm dedicated to weights and diet is spot on, better than ever, only worry's I could have is balls shrinking and hair falling out, well as long as I've plenty HCG that's no1 sorted, and It appears my hair is thinning anyway so fuck it.

I know most guys generally cruise on 250mg per week Test or Sus, or what do you cruise on personally ?

How much on average do we produce naturally do you guys reckon, I've read different studys ?

It looks like I'm going to be going for UGL 10ml Vials, I did want to go Pharma but it is too expensive especially when you don't plan on coming off, now I am looking at ProChems TRI TEST 400mg/ml

CONTAINS:
120mg Test Enanthate
120mg Test Cypionate
160mg Test Decanoate.

I am thinking 0.5ml cruising (200mg) and 1.5ml blasting (500mg) for the price , and the 3 different long acting esters, this seems ideal

I think I'd go old skool 6 weeks on 6 weeks off (cruising) with an Oral and a short ester Injectable (NPP and yet to try Tren ACE)

Letro ALWAYS. learned that from experience, the lumps on my chest are going away and I never want to see them again.

Just curious as to what you guys cruise on, let's face it, this is a big commitment, once your in, your in, and if I'm gna do it, I'm gna do it right ;)

So yeah just wondering what u guys cruise on and what we naturally produce , another thing I've never used but will have to figure out correct doasges for is HCG, any input would be good as I plan on making 2014 my year :) !
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How old are you?
Weight?
How many years lifting?
 
benzoman12345 said:
I ask this because I've said a couple of times that at some point when I'm ready , I'm going to start just blasting and cruising, I'm dedicated to weights and diet is spot on, better than ever, only worry's I could have is balls shrinking and hair falling out, well as long as I've plenty HCG that's no1 sorted, and It appears my hair is thinning anyway so fuck it.

I know most guys generally cruise on 250mg per week Test or Sus, or what do you cruise on personally ?

How much on average do we produce naturally do you guys reckon, I've read different studys ?

It looks like I'm going to be going for UGL 10ml Vials, I did want to go Pharma but it is too expensive especially when you don't plan on coming off, now I am looking at ProChems TRI TEST 400mg/ml

CONTAINS:
120mg Test Enanthate
120mg Test Cypionate
160mg Test Decanoate.

I am thinking 0.5ml cruising (200mg) and 1.5ml blasting (500mg) for the price , and the 3 different long acting esters, this seems ideal

I think I'd go old skool 6 weeks on 6 weeks off (cruising) with an Oral and a short ester Injectable (NPP and yet to try Tren ACE)

Letro ALWAYS. learned that from experience, the lumps on my chest are going away and I never want to see them again.

Just curious as to what you guys cruise on, let's face it, this is a big commitment, once your in, your in, and if I'm gna do it, I'm gna do it right ;)

So yeah just wondering what u guys cruise on and what we naturally produce , another thing I've never used but will have to figure out correct doasges for is HCG, any input would be good as I plan on making 2014 my year :) !
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Cruise 200mg/week...

If your on cruise-blast it doesn't matter what you produce naturally because you will probably be shut-down anyway...

Pro-Chem..??? Pro Chem is very hit and miss and not really doing well at the mo'. Used to be OK, times change..

120mg test E = 81.3mg actual test
120mg test cyp = 78.9mg actual test
160mg test deca = 96mg actual test.... just saying.. :)

Cruise or blast pin half the dose 2 X/week......

6 weeks cruise OK, personally I'd blast for 12-18 weeks or longer... (if its your first time Yes, you could try 6 on 6 off)..!!

Letro was for the gyno lump removal..... When on cycle or cruise to better manage estrogen with Adex only if needed... Estrogen is needed for gains remember that..
Its not all bad.. It just has to be managed more with some people..!!

hCG.... I've had much to say on this topic in previous posts.. If sperm production and/or testicular volume is your thing then it may be for you... But I don't see a need for further suppression of GnRH, IMO...!!

If your so concerned about your natural test production, get blood tests done..!! Why..?? natural test will be a thing of the past if contemplating a future of cruise-blast..!!
 
I'm 22 been lifting since 13 as I was a boxer so 9 years lifting weights, Boxing and muscles have been my thing since the first time I stepped into that ring, my young brother is a boxer as well, and I have trained my other young brother and cousin and they are all solid now, I have done Fitness in college as well as self educating myself for years and years, I'm about 5,10, sittin at about just under 14 stone the now, body shaped has changed tho but strength is still through the roof,

I'm ready for serious commitment, I know what I want to do , now it's time to set my mark and enforce it,

Weights are my life , at one stage I was at the Gym for 6.30AM 7 days per week before the gym even opened, that was what led to the over-training deadlifts that done my back in.

Honestly, Cocaine, Heroin, whatever ur poision is, good for you, mines is weights , they are my drug, and I am addicted, I'm not concerned about natural Test levels , I was just asking so that I know how much more I am taking compared to Natty test, out of curiousity,

I had ProChem Nandro Test not so long ago, and even with the thickest pin from the steroid packs around here, it was far too thick to draw properly, so u may be correct about that, I have access to several labs of course, I used Isis , seemed OK, and Alpha, I know Guido has thoughts about them that I don't know anything about but they gave me great results, and that was what I was intenting to use but they are too dear anyway,

In the field of Nutrition I am educated, I have learned all this trial and error growing up, I have the best supplements and a brilliant gym at my doorstep

A good UGL 10ml all the way will be good enough, bottom line is I'm ready to sign my life away to Muscles and Healthiness. :)

Never felt so confident about anything in my life.
 
The body produces 7-10mg of test a day under normal circumstances.
 
benzoman12345 said:
Genetic Freak said:
120mg test E = 81.3mg actual test
120mg test cyp = 78.9mg actual test
160mg test deca = 96mg actual test.... just saying.. :)

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How do you work this out Gf ?
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Me and Guido know everything..Lol :)

Testosterone Enanthate 67.8mg/ml
Testosterone Cypionate 65.8mg/ml
Testosterone Decanoate 60mg/ml...... In most cases when the correct ester weight has been subtracted....
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Them numbers got lower again there, wtf lol, basically saying the shit is underdosed to fuck ?
 
Or what your saying is that that is the maximum that ester can hold of the compound ? confused.com
 
Fucksake you learn something everyday I have just read that when you inject Test E 100mgs once the long acting ester is removed you only receive 70mgs, this is why I made this post to learn Everything I need to know before I start.

So 250mg Test E is actually , 175mgs once the Enanthate is removed. Intersting.

In that case I'm gna be looking at a higher dosed Test with a single Ester, Whatever one I can get that holds on to the most Test from a good lab.
 
Thoughts on Lixus Labs boys ? They're Test E and C are at 300mg/ml wich would work out to 210mg/ml, looks like the best bet, although I've heard mixed reviews my supplier swears by them am Prochem, but I'd rather hear it from people with experience rather than a guy who wants my money lol
 
benzoman12345 said:
Them numbers got lower again there, wtf lol, basically saying the shit is underdosed to fuck ?
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Testosterone Enanthate 67.8mg/ml = 32.2mg
Testosterone Cypionate 65.8mg/ml = 34.2mg
Testosterone Decanoate 60mg/ml = 40mg ..... These are the ester weights...!!!!

Nothing is under-dosed with the above calculations.. Total compound = 100mg in all cases.. Enanthate ester weighs 32.2mg therefore testosterone weighs 67.8mg..

Same goes for Cyp and Deca, the esters have to weigh something, the longer the ester release time the greater the molecular weight, because of the greater number of carbon atoms in those esters... (plus Hydrogen + Oxygen)
In chemistry, all atoms have a specific weight because of the number of protons, neutrons and electrons....

The ester comes first, plus what ever testosterone to make the total weight = 100mg..

I hope this explains it a little better....
 
benzoman12345 said:
Thoughts on Lixus Labs boys ? They're Test E and C are at 300mg/ml wich would work out to 210mg/ml, looks like the best bet, although I've heard mixed reviews my supplier swears by them am Prochem, but I'd rather hear it from people with experience rather than a guy who wants my money lol
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Of interest:
With Propionate you get about 78.8mg.... but normally dosed 100mg/ml against Enanthate @ 250mg/ml (obviously not 250mg of testosterone but 250mg of compound IE: Ester + Test).. actual numbers 169.5mg test... lol

With Propionate some UG Labs sell 20ml ...... against 10ml for enanthate for about the same price.... Need a bloody Phd in maths :) ....
 
benzoman12345 said:
Thoughts on Lixus Labs boys ? They're Test E and C are at 300mg/ml wich would work out to 210mg/ml, looks like the best bet, although I've heard mixed reviews my supplier swears by them am Prochem, but I'd rather hear it from people with experience rather than a guy who wants my money lol
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Just E-mailed a M8' back in the UK: Pro-Chem..??? Pro Chem is very hit and miss and not really doing well at the mo'. Used to be OK, times change..
 
Genetic Freak said:
Testosterone Enanthate 67.8mg/ml = 32.2mg
Testosterone Cypionate 65.8mg/ml = 34.2mg
Testosterone Decanoate 60mg/ml = 40mg ..... These are the ester weights...!!!!

Nothing is under-dosed with the above calculations.. Total compound = 100mg in all cases.. Enanthate ester weighs 32.2mg therefore testosterone weighs 67.8mg..

Same goes for Cyp and Deca, the esters have to weigh something, the longer the ester release time the greater the molecular weight, because of the greater number of carbon atoms in those esters... (plus Hydrogen + Oxygen)
In chemistry, all atoms have a specific weight because of the number of protons, neutrons and electrons....

The ester comes first, plus what ever testosterone to make the total weight = 100mg..

I hope this explains it a little better....
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Yeah I didn't realise the ester decreased the amount of compound because of the weight but I do know, I've found a site with a list of all the ester weights, so from now on when I'm looking at steroids I'll be calculating what I'm REALLY getting.
 
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