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How Much Should a First Time (or not-in-a-long-time user) use? (methamphetamine)

xxPUSH0Noo

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(Concerning the crystal or "Ice" form of meth)
I have been searching high and low on this site over the past ehhhh 48 hours to try to find out what is a good safe dose to take. First off. I am not 16 in need of a drugs are bad pep talk. This is the first time I have asked on a site like this because generally these questions are treated with respect on Bluelight and understanding that we are not all going to just not use because someone said not to. I in turn respects the views of long time users warning not to get involved.. but here is the thing. I couldn't find out how much I should do so she had to just guesstimate. I thinks a long time or experienced user should maybe say <------> thats how long your line should be (assuming its not all piled up.) I've seen the .5 point or whatever answers and I mean I don't know what a point is, and believe it or not there is not one website that shows what it might look like (or not that I have found anyways.)

I will go ahead and give you guys a little starter info on h drug history. At 12 I was was smoking weed off and on. At 13 I was drinking. At 16 I was rolling E every weekend sometimes 3 days a week (for an entire Summer, then stopped), never liked coke, made me anxious and nervous and panicky and naucous and pukey. I LOVE OPIATES. I don't even like to drink but I love opiates because for some reason it is the only drug that seems to effect me in an overall clean and good euphoric way. In fact I am just now somewhat clean from an 80mg a day oxy addiction. By the way this addiction was caused by my roommate being a DD and it was always around. One time I sniffed a line and from there on whenever I felt like a pick me up I did it. Two years later I kept getting sick and didn't know why.. I realized what an IDIOT I had been thinking she was immune to addiction or even that I was not addicted in the first place to be doing it every day. I quit that day. Cold turkey. I was so sick for two weeks. Did it all on my own. Thought I was stroking out several times, thought I was having panic attacks. Didn't sleep for almost 5 days. It was pure HELL.
I was clean for 6 months when I started realizing maybe she had some problems that she did need to go see a pain management doctor for, after all the withdrawal and paws should of been over with by then. Pretty bad pain, but admittedly a little bit of an excuse cuz I can take pain like no other. After that because of a spinal condition I was prescribed 30mg of hydrocodone a day. I took it for a year before saying F THAT not going there again and quit again cold turkey.

At this point I don't drink or smoke and needs release so twice a month on average she might get a couple tabs. I really wish I could do some of that good oxy (never got to say goodbye; quit 2 months before they stopped making them lol) or roxy or percs but can't find them anymore since I removed myself from that scene. Since then I have been great about my control.

I ended up getting some free crystal, ice, glass.... WHATEVER it was. It looked like one small clear crystal but broke down after a while to some pretty decent powder. I did some (what she thought was a good dose) night before last and obviously did not sleep all night. Had to be at work the nnext day and felt like a crackhead with a dirty butt (sorry best way I can think of to describe) The entire day I was panicy, sweaty, cold feet and hands until at 3PM when I did a tiny bit more, less than the first amount. I ended up getting 4 hours of sleep that night after taking 1mg klonopin. Now I am awake 4 1/2 hrs later and found myself still mildly jittery so took .5 mg klonopin. An hour after that I realized I am not going to be functional today starting to feel awful again and still has some of that same free baggie of ice. So I just did another bump.. thats why my typing is so erratic she just won't shut up and I can't type fast enough! I'm sure half you are on my level anyways. After the tiny bit I have left is gone I won't touch it again because of the horrible comedown and overall panicy, evil, dirty feeling I get. (last time I used was in ATL 9 years and it was some GOOOOOD stuff.)

Anyways questions: 1. What is a good starter dose in form of "<---->" for CRYSTAL GLASS ICE meth?
2. If I was taking klonopins on average of 1 mg per night for the past 2 weeks for anxiety I am of course continuing that dose through this baggie and is it okay for me to add an extra .5 or .25 here and there with my own discretion if I start freaking out after the initial high is over (like 2-3-4 hours maybe) then feels like $&** for a pure 20 straight. I have seen people say NO UPPERS AND DOWNERS and I have always heeded this but have seen on some posts that doctors give it to to people tweaking out in the hospital.
3. Basically, how should I do this stuff. I am snorting it. Should I do one bigger amount at once, or little lines here and there.. I am afraid that if I do little lines here and there I am going to be up all night again.
4. What are you similar experiences? With all due respect, I do NOT want to hear any negative horror stories or stories off addiction or bad trips because any negativity easily sends me into some pretty serious anxiety. I fully respect addiction and moderation as I was a full blown addict at a point in her life.

I am basically trying to be informed on my use. I do not plan on using again because it pretty much sucks after a couple hours, but if I ever do I would like to do so intelligently. I have always been a big researcher before her use. Well, after turning 22, before then I don't know how I made it out of my wild teens alive!

Thanks!
 
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Sorry, we don't use "SWIM" on bluelight - we know it's you.

Also, please re-format your post and use paragraphs (in the background portion, so I assume it to be) - I'd love to help but that is giving me a headache to look at, sorry.
 
Hey, welcome to BL =D first off, don't use SWIM here, we prefer 'I' or 'Me' :D and please just make it clearer what drug you're talking about, I didn't even realise you were talking about meth until right at the end of your post..

Meth tends to vary a lot with purity, so it can be hard to gauge a dose. I would recommend snorting about 10mg to start, waiting 15-30 mins, and then seeing how you feel. If you still want more, just do another bump and work your way up. The size of the lines shouldn't really matter at these doses.

Taking benzos should be fine, yes. You may want to save them for the comedown though, as a couple mg of clonaz can be a lifesaver when you're sketched out and can't sleep.

And I always need to do a shit when I do my first hit on a stim session, usually after that there's usually no bowel problems.
 
Ok will do right now, i completely understand. I guess I'm getting my sites mixed up, could of saved time not having to re-edit and say it was someone else!

Thanks guys, sorry for the confusion with the whole "swim" thing but at this point I can't make myself go back and re edit it to ME. Lol Thanks for the responses though, and I look forward to hearing some more..

ALSO: how long on average would you say a pretty pure bit of Ice would last (as far as from first inhale to feeling normal again).
 
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Your the one who knows how potent it is. If you've already dosed yourself with different quantities you should be able to figure out how much you need for a certain level of intensity you are going for. If you still are having trouble figuring out just how much you need, start extremely small, and take a few bumps over an hour to an hour and half till you feel comfortable with the high. If you aren't enjoying the high, well, stop taking it, eat some food, drink some water, and wait it out till you can fall asleep to get a good nights rest.

It would last 6-8 hours, with residual effect lasting up to potentially 10 or 12 where you may not be able to fall asleep. Though it depends on the dose. I've had a small dose last only 4 to 5 hours.
 
Hi there, welcome to BDD. I've edited your post to remove the SWIMs and also merged a few of your posts together, hope that is okay - it is better to edit your original post if you have something else to add rather than making multiple posts in a row :)

Drawing the size of a line isn't going to work I'm afraid, it will appear different sizes to different people depending on their screen, and we don't know how pure your meth is.. Others have given you good advice on how much to take - if in doubt, always start low and work up.

The no uppers and downers is often misunderstood - there is no inherent danger, it is more that one can mask the other, leading to an overdose when one wears off. It can be dangerous yes but taking your standard benzo dose should be fine. Taking a little bit more is unlikely to be dangerous, but your tolerance will go up if it becomes a regular thing, so be careful...

If you don't want to be up all night, make sure you don't take your last dose too late. Really, it would be much better to call it quits now, get yourself well hydrated and fed and try to rest, but I appreciate that if you have some left it is very hard not to take it. Making sure you drink plenty and trying to get some nutrition into you is really important and will help with the comedown.

I hope you get some sleep tonight :)
 
@effie - thank you! And I understand the potency is always varied but with ice is it not pretty-close-to-pure in most cases. Cause it is crystals. I am not sure if I should say what state I'm in alert me if so but in TX they did a study and found the stuff here is 97-99% pure (glass, ice). I just did the last bit and am hoping with a couple klonopins I can sleep good tonight. I can't eat much but applesauce but eat a lil bit every couple hrs to keep my blood sugar under control. Arizona green tea is the best thing I have found to drink, goes down easy and is refreshing and yummy without being overly sweet. You have been most helpful with all your information, thank you so much!
 
The girl I got it from drives four hours away to get the good stuff she says, that's why I was tempted lol.
 
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