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How much more euphoric is smoking meth compared to...

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JackiesBabyy

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oral/snorted d-amphetamine(not adderall, just d-amp. I know d-amp by itself is more euphoric from experience)? (Also, I find oral and snorted to be about equal in the euphoria department)

I find the euphoria from d-amp orally (in a recreational dose) is pretty awesome and very addicting. I'm afraid to (and probably never will unless I end up with a terminal disease) smoke actual meth because I know my life would be ruined forever. Just for comparison, how much more euphoric would you consider the rush from smoking meth than the euphoria from a recreational dose of oral d-amp? I honestly can't imagine something TOO much more euphoric than an amphetamine high, which is how I know if I tried it my life would probably be over.
 
This is difficult to get a definitive answer to, as it is very subjective.
I think you will either get very few answers or lot's of different ones.
I would think that smoking meth would give you more euphoria than a rec dose of oral d-amp.
But this would be short-lived.
And eventually you would get more euphoria from the rec dose of oral d-amp(I've never used d-amp, but am substituting it with meth in this post as I think it would apply to both) than that of smoked meth.
IME the euphoria on a whole was much stronger when I took meth orally.
Obviously the euphoria hits you immediately when smoking meth, but you need to keep smoking it to at least maintain that euphoria but more than likely you will lose that euphoria pretty darn quickly.
Taken orally the euphoria doesn't "hit" you, it comes on slow, but strong, and IMHO at it's peak, the euphoria is better than any amount of meth smoked.

Just saying it like it is.
 
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shreddedlettuce said:
This is difficult to get a definitive answer to, as it is very subjective.
I think you will either get very few answers or lot's of different ones.
I would think that smoking meth would give you more euphoria than a rec dose of oral d-amp.
But this would be short-lived.
And eventually you would get more euphoria from the rec dose of oral d-amp(I've never used d-amp, but am substituting it with meth in this post as I think it would apply to both) than that of smoked meth.
IME the euphoria on a whole was much stronger when I took meth orally.
Obviously the euphoria hits you immediately when smoking meth, but you need to keep smoking it to at least maintain that euphoria but more than likely you will lose that euphoria pretty darn quickly.
Taken orally the euphoria doesn't "hit" you, it comes on slow, but strong, and IMHO at it's peak, the euphoria is better than any amount of meth smoked.

Just saying it like it is.
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So why is smoked meth so much more popular if oral is more euphoric? Too impatient to wait 30 minutes?

I honestly find it a little hard to believe people literally can't wait 30 minutes for a longer duration and more euphoria. That's insane unless you need to use less when you smoke it. I always thought the "rush" people speak of when you smoke/shoot meth was a lot more euphoric than what you'd get orally.
 
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Yes, please stay away from smoking meth.

As to your question, it completely depends on the route of administration, the quantity, and the potency of the meth. Also on the person.

Smoking meth is likely to be more euphoric and addictive than oral/snorted d-amph, and will also have a faster onset, which is definitely a factor and can make something feel more euphoric just because it comes on faster and more suddenly. If you took them both orally, then no I don't think that meth would be much more euphoric really, and the onset and duration are so different, quite a few people even say they find oral meth less addictive than oral d-amph (though some say the opposite, it depends on the person since we all have unique metabolisms and brains). I'm not sure about snorting versus snorting, I haven't snorted d-amph that I recall.

Some animal studies have found meth caused more oxidative damage to the brain than d-amph, (even when pure drugs are given by the same ROA).

The scientific literature says dextroamphetamine has greater CNS effects and fewer peripheral effects than levoamphetamine, and that methamphetamine is equipotent to dextroamphetamine in producing behavioral stimulant effects, but has even fewer peripheral effects and greater CNS effects than dextroamphetamine.

Whether oral meth is actually in general more euphoric/addictive than oral d-amph in reality is still unclear IMO and of course it depends on the person, but the above info is given as the justification for the claim meth has "more abuse potential" than the others. Of course, perception, not reality, is everything, especially when it comes to drugs, and since meth has such a terrible and widely know reputation doctors are very hesitant to prescribe it. (Of course if you are taking them by different ROAs makes a big difference)

I would stick to the d-amph, you are more likely to know what you're getting and not have weird cuts in it (unless it's weird powdered street d-amph?) and I would definitely stay away from smoking meth. It's not worth it.

I really hope that the idea that meth is more euphoric is not tempting you to do it. I am only answering this in the hopes of dissuading you from doing it.
 
JackiesBabyy said:
So why is smoked meth so much more popular if oral is more euphoric? Too impatient to wait 30 minutes?

I honestly find it a little hard to believe people literally can't wait 30 minutes for a longer duration and more euphoria. That's insane unless you need to use less when you smoke it. I always thought the "rush" people speak of when you smoke/shoot meth was a lot more euphoric than what you'd get orally.
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I actually prefer oral meth to smoked. I don't think you save any drug by smoking it. And oral lasts like twice as long. I think a lot of people don't even try oral, they just smoke it because others do. Smoking also tends to be more addictive. Plus yeah, people are impatient. That is a big part of why IV users don't want to switch to other ROAs.
 
Yeah, I lovelovelove my amphetamine, that's why I stick to the route where tolerance develops more slowly. I just can't understand their logic, they're trading a 5x longer duration and essentially throwing away a lot of the shit JUST because they can't wait a half an hour. I could understand smoking it sometimes if you're incredibly incredibly stressed or upset and need a little relief NOW, but other than that it makes so much more sense to wait.
 
Sorry, a bit of confusion maybe.
Because I hadn't used d-amph before, I used oral meth in my post.
So therefore because I got so much more out of taking meth orally, than when smoked. I'm suggesting the same for you, but with oral d-amph instead of smoking meth.

Hope that makes sense.
 
I tried IV Meth once and i prefer oral adderall to it. They weren't all that much different other than the obvious rush due to ROA.
 
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I tried IV Meth once and i prefer oral adderall to it. They weren't all that much different other than the obvious rush due to ROA.
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That sounds very odd seeing as adderall has l-amphetamine, which releases non-euphoric NE. Meth is the one that releases the most dopamine by far, if I recall correctly.
 
JackiesBabyy said:
Ah. Yeah, d-amp by itself was the most euphoric stim I've had. Next is 4-fa, then adderall, then 2-FMA.
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Yeah man. All these new fancy stims out, but i always usually go back to adderall (or if available, dexedrine obviously). It's speedy, euphoric, talkative. It's a really great stim.
 
Crashing said:
Yeah man. All these new fancy stims out, but i always usually go back to adderall (or if available, dexedrine obviously). It's speedy, euphoric, talkative. It's a really great stim.
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4-FA is like adderall but more talkative/social than speedy and stimulating. 2-FMA is identical to D-amp but less euphoric. Still very euphoric though.
 
I personally prefer to eat or secondly iv speed.....smoking it leaves me feeling cracked out and the euphoria dies out for me after 30-60 minutes when smoking it so I haveto keep redosing.

Usually I'll smoke a little when i first get some to see how good it is before using IV or oral.
 
Personally have never gotten a lot of euphoria to really write home about of smoking meth, I honestly get more out of using it orally and find I get much smoother and long lasting euphoria plus it takes less. The only reason why I have smoked meth is that I just enjoy twirling that pipe and watching the smoke go round and round and round and round and up the pipe and again and again and again.... yeah thats what I mean the addiction I think for many people especially me isnt the high from after smoking it but rather the act of smoking itself... maybe because the only thing your foccussing on and watching is smoking the meth meanwhile your brain is being flooded with dopamine.

Getting off topic here but again I find oral use gives me a nice euphoria that I prefer of smoking
 
Dexedrine I found more smooth than adderall due to the fact that there is no l-amphetamine, however. I've just recently tried oral meth. Truth be told, I think I like taking it orally more. It won't have a rush, but it will hit you in the face without you knowing and lasts a lot longer, so it's a plus when it comes to school work. It's a hell of a lot less risky too. Before that, I was IVing, snorting, and smoking it. I've had god awful crashes from those routes of administration, but then again. I've just started taking it orally. I find that oral methamphetamine have a bit more of a euphoria and sex drive to it compared to dexedrine.
 
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