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Toast to the Spirits

Toast to the Spirits

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Say you have 2 pills that have been professionally tested and both came back containing MDMA only. Both pills have the exact same mg. dosage of MDMA and they were pressed exactly the same. If the MDMA in one pill was made by a professional chemist with every resource at hand, would it make a difference in the effects compared to the pill with MDMA made by the average chemist?
 
Toast to the Spirits said:
Say you have 2 pills that have been professionally tested and both came back containing MDMA only. Both pills have the exact same mg. dosage of MDMA and they were pressed exactly the same. If the MDMA in one pill was made by a professional chemist with every resource at hand, would it make a difference in the effects compared to the pill with MDMA made by the average chemist?
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IMO. definatley.


there is tons of MDMA pure and pills flying about in the UK, i turn down most pure crystal MDMA nowadays.

quality makes a huge difference. if you havnt experienced pure quality mdma then you havnt experienced "E" imo.

i can get stuff that makes your eyes wiggle and stuff, but id much prefer the stuff that puts a stupid smile on your face, talking to yourself about ????, seeing people who arent there and feeling completely satisfied with the effects. unlike other MDMA i can work my way through half a G easy.


like, 1 Q dance pill that lasted 7 hours for me. were as winners lasted 2-3 hours, and i ended up eating 6 lol.

few pills outs there that last about 2-3 hours, and that isnt because there is low dose in there, its the mdma quality.
 
I think where you are in your MDMA use plays a greater role that people care to admit.

Most people start their MDMA use on a fairly average pill, and it's usually the first time or first several times that are the most amazing. Not because of quality of pills, but because of how their brain and bodies uniquely respond to any MDMA.

But I do agree, quality of contents absolutely does play a huge part. There are circumstances where someone believes what they're enjoying the most is "pure MDMA", but it may be a combo of MDMA + amp, MDMA + 4-FA, MDMA + ephedrine.
 
Toast to the Spirits said:
Say you have 2 pills that have been professionally tested and both came back containing MDMA only. Both pills have the exact same mg. dosage of MDMA and they were pressed exactly the same. If the MDMA in one pill was made by a professional chemist with every resource at hand, would it make a difference in the effects compared to the pill with MDMA made by the average chemist?
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MDMA is MDMA is MDMA
Doesn't matter who it's made by, all that matters is if it's cut or not.
 
I agree w keaton. U either have mdma or not. Doesn't matter who makes it. If some chemist doesn't have all the precursers then chances r he ain't gona make mdma. There's only one kind of mdma. U either have it or u don't. It matters more if its cut w anything or and ur tolerence.
 
Yea the problem isn't where its made... it can be made properly in a garage or kitchen just like in a lab if done properly...

If done improperly... well you get the idea lol ;)

Pretty much anyone with a good amount of common sense and a basic understanding of chemistry and lab technique could synthesize top grade mdma.
 
trying to teach myself chem as we speak. . .

I couldn't synthesize top grade dog shit . . .

course could be said I don't have a basic understanding of even how to spell chemistry yet. . .
 
think of it like this ... would you rather buy a 1000$ worth of gas to fill your car or 10$ to fill it for the year lol..

Quantity doesn't matter ..quality does.. weed is the best example to me ..but coke as well .. mids or cut coke compared to really good yay or some blazin tree ? Yea you never pick the cut or the mids on purpose only money wise would you chose the weaker substance.

so pure over non pure any day .. quality = pure/best around you ...
 
LilbabiC said:
if two people one professional and one not end up with the same exact product then I don't see what the difference would be so it's all the same.
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Exactly. If I have all the same ingredients to make a pie as Martha Stewart, I'm pretty much going to be making the same pie as Martha Stewart. A few minor details may have some slight effect.

This is MDMA, it's not like you have your Johnson & Johnson MDMA and your backyard bathtub MDMA- it's all made ways that involve extreme privacy, with a lot of expertise. Due to the nature of safrole being highly tracked by the government and difficult to get, it's not like your homey from school has access to it, and if he says he does, he's full of shit.
 
actually having a think about this i've sometimes noticed a difference between generic and branded medications. could this be due to the quality of drug produced?
 
Well the difference between a lab chemist and a bath tub one, is a lab and equipment/supplies


if the second MDMA maker doesnt have access to all the machines and tools and chemicals he needs obviously the MDMA will come out to be a lower quality


say if they used anise oil instead of safrole, obviously the PMMA that will result is a much lower quality than the other dude who went through the synthesization properly
 
I was actually referring to the MD being stamped on in my post. I dont give a fuck who makes it as long as it comes out good, it's the 50 guys adding whatever to it afterwards. I know you can recrystalise but I buy crystal, but I'm more comfortable in the knowledge my local dealer cant recrystalise, and I wont buy powder....
 
Joker117 said:
if you get powder molly what would= 200 mgs ?
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In the interest of harm reduction, buy a scale, you'll never get it accurate through eyeballin'. However,I do it like this; if you have a gram divide it into 5 equal piles or whatever you like - 1/5 = 200mg. This depends on your actual weight beforehand though, I actually get full grams rather than dealers' 0.7gs so I'm fine...
 
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