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how much do you usually take?

i use scales to weigh out the amount im gonna but in my bomb, then i get a post it note and fold it horizontally down the middle. i scrape all my md off the scales into this post it note, then pour it from the post it note into a rizzla, gently so it doesn't spill anywhere and then i just hold it and twist the rizzla into a bomb, then wrap it in another rizzla and twist it to make sure it doesn't split in my pocket or anything.

i also mark my bigger bombs with red pen and the smaller ones with blue so when i'm absolutely gurned i can tell which is which.

Cheers bud!
 
Nowadays a single dose between 50-100mg is enough to enhance good feelings.

No Re-Dose and No real comedown, but with the magic sparkle and a nice long afterglow.

( Unfortunately, I had to learn the "LESS-on" the hard way :\ )
 
I never take more than 200 mgs in a night, with my usual dose being 150 mgs. I've been rolling for years, but I take frequent breaks in order to keep my tolerance fairly low.
 
You have NO evidence to say that this hasn't happened, you just SAY that it hasn't happened because you haven't seen it.
Like the invisible pink cheetah that lives in my attic.
 
But its ok to confuse the two when its in your favor? Do you have any hard evedence this IS happening or is this what one of your well connected friends told you?

I have the subjective experiences of many users who have said that the effects of some pills are consistently the same, and that the Q dances feel much more "speedy" than the Defqons even though both test for MDMA.


I at least have SOME kind of evidence and support for my case, you simply say it's not happening. You need evidence to make a statement, as you once told me. So where is yours...?
No, I don't have any lab tests to prove this. They can't test for it as far as I know, but all I see is you saying no. Give me a good reason, and maybe I'll be persuaded.




Again, this is a pill coming from a lab grade press that is competing with several other high dose MDMA only presses that is trying to get a leg up over the competition, as Dannygauge said, they think that people like pills that "fuck them up" more so they "remove the empathy" so they will sell better, and they seem to have done a good job because these pills are famous.
 
I have the subjective experiences of many users who have said that the effects of some pills are consistently the same, and that the Q dances feel much more "speedy" than the Defqons even though both test for MDMA.


I at least have SOME kind of evidence and support for my case, you simply say it's not happening. You need evidence to make a statement, as you once told me. So where is yours...?
No, I don't have any lab tests to prove this. They can't test for it as far as I know, but all I see is you saying no. Give me a good reason, and maybe I'll be persuaded.




Again, this is a pill coming from a lab grade press that is competing with several other high dose MDMA only presses that is trying to get a leg up over the competition, as Dannygauge said, they think that people like pills that "fuck them up" more so they "remove the empathy" so they will sell better, and they seem to have done a good job because these pills are famous.

If I said i'd seen Vader's 'invisible pink cheetah that lives in the attic' would you believe it? Subjective experiences are often far too weak to base a theory upon, I wouldn't even regard it as evidence. People can post anything they want on the internet and the placebo effect goes along way. Once an idea is planted that these said pills are less empathetic, people begin to expect it and form some conspiracy theory that of course cannot be disproved. I often drink a relentless and feel more stimulated after a minute or so when it cannot even possibly be the caffeine as its not kicked in yet, its my pure expectation causing a placebo.

Just my thoughts.
 
Your "evidence" is only imaginary... thats not evidence... you came along and said specific pills had this r/s isomer manipulation thing happening... its your job to prove your theory against the standard :)
 
Your "evidence" is only imaginary... thats not evidence... you came along and said specific pills had this r/s isomer manipulation thing happening... its your job to prove your theory against the standard :)

I think it's harder to make R and S isomers separate. Most MDMA synthesis isn't done so professional as to be able to make the stereoisomer that you want. Most of it is home-lab cooking style, maybe a little more advanced. So the moonrocks that come out of this contain a racemic mixture of both isomers.

It would be a lot more expensive to put a specific amount of isomers in a pill, just so you can make the pill better. They don't care about doing that since the costs outweigh the benefits. Sure, maybe people would like a pill with 70% R and 30% S MDMA isomers in it, but if it's just a little bit better than 50-50, which is the usual way MDMA is, they will not invest the money into the technology to be able to synthesize both isomers independently just because the investment will never be recovered, because people will not compulsively choose the said "70-30" pill for other "50-50" pills. People usually buy what is available. Since pill pressers get caught quite often, the investment will surely not get recovered. How will they even advertise that they have the best racemic mixture? They have to have some sort of marketing technique to make people aware of the superiority of their pills in order to justify higher costs and increase sales. Otherwise it's money down the drain.

I hope that's the end of it.
 
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My molly is clean uncut, so I just take my 1g bag, make 8 lines eyeballed which would give me something around 125mg ± 10mg. That is the perfect dosage for me, I'm skinny and light weight so that get's me fucked up and I feel like an e-tard, I like it haha.
 
I think it's harder to make too.. but these are made in professional labs with equipment that cost tens of thousands of dollars


They're obviously trying to make the best product possible... but yes most labs would never do this because the racmic is actually considered better, and it's easier to make. Most labs don't put 200+mg in a press either.



I'll continue to believe people who have actually taken the pills rather than those who simply say it hasn't been done before :) again, labs can't test for this... so there isn't too much sense in arguing.
 
I know theres evidence in pikhal that discusses it and other places too that the isomers can be made and would therefore need to be later mixed in magic proportions that make it more better... idk... i could be wrong that would just be a ton of work because youd have to do 2 seperate synths then mix the 2 diff ones at press time... and for how much gain? Bout the same as making a proper pill with a full dose in it 8)
 
I'll continue to believe people who have actually taken the pills rather than those who simply say it hasn't been done before :) again, labs can't test for this... so there isn't too much sense in arguing.

Have you taken speakers/triforce etc?
 
1.5mg/kg bodyweight at T+0h and 0.45mg/kg boyweight at T+1h00 - 1h30.

Its the Shulgin way !

Redosing more than once is futile, he also says
 
How long do you find the 150mg high lasts

4-5 hours i'd say is most common for most MDMA trips. The amount taken doesn't necessarily increase the time you're up rather increasing the intensity of it all. Hence why 'less is more' is often applied to it.
 
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