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how much do you usually take?

Folley said:
I think it's harder to make too.. but these are made in professional labs with equipment that cost tens of thousands of dollars


They're obviously trying to make the best product possible... but yes most labs would never do this because the racmic is actually considered better, and it's easier to make. Most labs don't put 200+mg in a press either.

Quite frankly your an idiot, you could have take batches of identical crystal with the same isomers and the effects can be very different. You have no evidence other than other idiots talking about stuff they haven't got a clue about.
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165mg is not excessive imo, mind you here in England we can handle our shit, we don't roll bawlls on 60mg mints haha.
 
Folley said:
Correct... to a certain degree. The first dose is the most important, you can still get higher after that, but it will be a lot tweakier and full of side effects because your serotonin is released the most by the first dose, and anything after that is going to release more dopamine and norepinephrine, which you don't want.

I would probably take one and a little less than half of another. Don't pay attention to that KG/MG shit, that could lead you to dose unnecessarily high. No one should need more than 150mg of MDMA at once, and even that's a bit too much..
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OK thanks very much for that info. I suspected the initial dose was as good as it gets (bit like weed, where the 1st joint rips you then further joints just make you a little/higher more stoned and maintain the initial 1st joint buzz).

To confirm, I did 1 x Pink Diamond then 1 x Green Square. To me, I was mostly maintaining my buzz, I just thought the Green Square was in fact, very similar to the Pink Diamond.

Next club light (2 weeks ago), I did 1 x Green Square straight off. Wow, what a difference, it was so different to the Pink Diamond - more 'e' vision, a bit more up to dance faster whereas the Pink Diamonds are dancey but 'cruising dancing'. I took a 2nd Green Square around 1hour 15mins later as I knew they burn out fast and I came up a little on it and maintained my buzz but NOTHING compared to the first blast off from pill #1. Ha, it was funny I kinda screwed it up, I budgeted 1 hour for the Green Square to come up - instead it took about 40mins as my stomach was pretty empty and I ended up uncontrollably dancing at the bar waiting for water (I'm a sensible clubber, soon as the drugs kick in I need a bottle of water). Next time I get my water in advance as the initial coming up 10minutes is the most precious time.

I will prob try to do 1.5 or 1.25 Green Square and reserve the 0.5/0.75 for top up - see if this produces a greater effect initial effect, and a similar maintenance to dropping 1+1.
 
So these dutch boys pressing pills with over 200mg of MDMA in them have no idea what they're doing and are making gurners that no-one should ever take? Is that the claim of some of the posters in this thread?
 
If you want to be a dick about it, sure lol.


Those beans are fucking STRONG, a lot of people take half of those pills and redose with the other half. Personally I would never take a 200mg pill at once, I know my limits. 150mg is plenty...





I won't even get into discussion that those heavy hitting pills have varying ratios of isomers that, which are less effective than the racemic and could result in you needing a higher dose, but I'll just mention it for the hell of it.



But no one ever has or will say those pressers don't know what they are doing. That's an extremely professional couple of presses.
 
I'm not being a dick about it, if you can't engage in a discussion like a mature adult and attack ideas rather than people, then you shouldn't be getting involved in arguments at all. Earlier in this thread, you said that my advocacy of doses higher than what you take was irresponsible. Surely, then, people who are putting what you consider to be an excessive dose of MDMA in a pill (which is by nature a single dosage unit) are also behaving irresponsibly? My point is that some serious heads who know exactly what they are doing are of the opinion that 200mg MDMA is a totally appropriate dose.
I won't even get into discussion that those heavy hitting pills have varying ratios of isomers that, which are less effective than the racemic and could result in you needing a higher dose, but I'll just mention it for the hell of it.
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And I won't talk about that pesky invisible pink cheetah, the existence of which I have no evidence for except my emphatic insistence that it is real.
 
Vader said:
200mg MDMA is a totally appropriate dose.
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Source? 8) They put 250mgs in a pill, does that mean it has to be taken as one dose? Come on now.



I'm not getting into an arbitrary debate with you. Most people that take those pills have HUGE tolerances anyways, and MANY of them don't even take a whole pill at once.




If you had evidence that cheetahs could at least be pink (like how I showed you could easily mix the isomers), or invisible (how could they be both..?), I might be more prone to believing it.... but it looks like you just want someone to argue with, and you can find someone else ;)
 
Yeah, the point of a tablet is that it contains one dose to be taken at once. That's pretty obvious to me. Never have I read in the instructions of a packet of medication that I ought to split each tablet in half. You can't easily mix the isomers, I'm a chemistry student and I have some understanding of what a ridiculous and unnecessary and unprofitable ballache it would be to do that and not even tell the people you were selling to. Stereoselective syntheses are fucking long, and the consensus is that the racemate is what is desired anyway. I am totally unaware of any analysis that has been performed on any MDMA available on the black market that has been found to be anything but the racemate.
 
Source?
because pills in the US that contain 25mg of MDMA certainly don't have one dose in them.
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I thought you weren't interested in arguing? I can no more prove to you that the purpose of a tablet is to provide a dose of drug than I can prove that the purpose of a chair is to be sat in. It's not an empirically testable claim, it's common sense, and at this point you're just being obtuse. Those shit pills are still sold as containing one dose. I'm done here.
 
Vader said:
you're just being obtuse.
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Just because a pill has 250mg doesn't mean you have to take it all at once, you just want someone to argue with lol



^ Maybe like 6 of them lmao but I wouldn't touch American beans
 
I usually do about 180 mg in total. 120 mg initially and 60 mg top up an hour later.
Last time I rolled I did just 120 and had virtually no hangover.
 
Nowadays I have everything planned out well. The most I'd take is two. (I am 135 lbs)

Just two and a half years ago when I was in a bad place in my life, there was those nights that we were hosting events and we
had our dealer there (and good friend).
As much as you love your dealer, don't ever party with him!
He will stay and feed you mdma like its candy.
I had quite a few nights that I ended up taking about 9 or more.
a pill here, half of one there. bump over here.
Thinking about it now... it disgusts me.
 
e92 said:
say you're at an event lasting 5-6 hours. how much do you usually take? last time i rolled (2 days ago), dropped .2 right when i got there at 7pm, then .4 at around 9:30. i was really peaking about halfway thru laidback luke's 2 hour set from 10-12 <3

just wondering what other people are doing
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Lets.see,in the last month or two ive tripped on dank shrooms and a "party powder" very.stimmy but sync'd with the shrooms... i turned on some jimi hendrix and srv and had an amazing trip... one of the.best of my life :)

NOTE: i dont condone the use of mystery, "nnovelty", etc... from the cig store bit o researched.ot pretty jard and thouht ot was mephedrone and/or mdpv from the reagent results...
 
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