how much do you usually take?

[humblegro]

I hit the jackpot last year on the red squirrels and I took one and did really well. BUT, I only roll 2 times a year so I usually top up 40 to 60 more 1.5 in. That is around 200-220 mg. I love the state it puts me in. I roll once outdoor at a summer rave usually, and one in the winter at a bash I host with my gal. I am rolling less and weaning myself off the higher doses. I want to get down to just one squirrel. 160 of real md will get you buy most likely. Less is more like dude said.

 

[BrutalRollar]

Back in my honeymoon period i would take upwards of 700mg (or roughly 8-10 pills) Usually pure MDMA though, almost every 2 weeks

But now i only need to take around 300mg, Since i only use every six months or so now.
Actually been about 8 months now since i last dropped, looking forward to an certain festival coming up soon
That's when i plan to drop

 

[5-Meo-WTF]

Even with the most ridiculously pure crystal ever i still need 200mg to get me where i wanna be. And i've only rolled 5 or 6 times in my life. I fucking hate having a naturally high tolerance to every drug. Like a few weeks back at starscape my friend who has rolled maybe once or twice took 200mg of the same stuff i did and was rolling so hard he couldn't stand and was getting insane visuals. And i know that might make you think it wasn't mdma, but trust me, this stuff was from SR and was obscenely potent.

 

[indias]

Hey, does anyone have any advice for me? My stupid friends told me that 250 mg is the best dose for a first time user, and ive been using around 250 mg -300 mg, i did 300 mg last time and i was BUZZING. Wasn't particularly unpleasant though... However, my dilemma is, I'm going to an 8 hour rave next weekend but with only 200mg, do you think i'll not get as strong as a high because im used to 300mg? I've only done it 3 times before but they've all been within the space of a month (bad, i know, i dont need a lecture) I usually get paranoid about not having enough on me, and I usually have to double dose in order to come up. Im 19, F, 110 pounds if that helps?

 

[Chesh]

Hey, does anyone have any advice for me? My stupid friends told me that 250 mg is the best dose for a first time user, and ive been using around 250 mg -300 mg, i did 300 mg last time and i was BUZZING. Wasn't particularly unpleasant though... However, my dilemma is, I'm going to an 8 hour rave next weekend but with only 200mg, do you think i'll not get as strong as a high because im used to 300mg? I've only done it 3 times before but they've all been within the space of a month (bad, i know, i dont need a lecture) I usually get paranoid about not having enough on me, and I usually have to double dose in order to come up. Im 19, F, 110 pounds if that helps?

sounds cut to shit mate, 250mg would have a first timer on the floor

 

[indias]

sounds cut to shit mate, 250mg would have a first timer on the floor

Yeah, tbf I think the first time I did it was a shit cut, but the second time i was beyond buzzed my eyes were literally popping out my head it was a good cut, and i've got the same stuff for this rave, So i dunno what to do, dont know if ill still be as buzzed, i need someone whos been in a similar situ to me before

 

[Chesh]

if i take 200mg, i have pretty much the same amount of euphoria, love and general amazing feelings as if i took 130mg but im just gurning more and im more fucked and have less of an idea of what's actually going on around me. which is why i go for 130mg. could be the same for you.

only one way to find out. you can always take the 150mg and then in about an hour or more if you haven't come up you could snort the 50mg. and if you have come up then you can bomb the 50mg and it will keep you up for another hour or two.

 

[indias]

if i take 200mg, i have pretty much the same amount of euphoria, love and general amazing feelings as if i took 130mg but im just gurning more and im more fucked and have less of an idea of what's actually going on around me. which is why i go for 130mg. could be the same for you.

only one way to find out. you can always take the 150mg and then in about an hour or more if you haven't come up you could snort the 50mg. and if you have come up then you can bomb the 50mg and it will keep you up for another hour or two.

Yeah, good idea, think I might. Have you got any tips on how to make a bomb without being wasteful/spilling? or cant you give that info out.

 

[Chesh]

Yeah, good idea, think I might. Have you got any tips on how to make a bomb without being wasteful/spilling? or cant you give that info out.

i use scales to weigh out the amount im gonna but in my bomb, then i get a post it note and fold it horizontally down the middle. i scrape all my md off the scales into this post it note, then pour it from the post it note into a rizzla, gently so it doesn't spill anywhere and then i just hold it and twist the rizzla into a bomb, then wrap it in another rizzla and twist it to make sure it doesn't split in my pocket or anything.

i also mark my bigger bombs with red pen and the smaller ones with blue so when i'm absolutely gurned i can tell which is which.

 

[Dmytry]

k but vader i think theres more to this than you realize. the synth of MDMA is a complex one to say the least. there are variations in isomers in every batch i would think as every batch has slightly different effects than the last. maybe i know nothing of the synth but from experience of a lot of different pills US pill and NL pills, id say folley is correct IMHO. for instance 2 different NL pills iv taken seemed waaaaaay different. not the same feeling roll. defqons vs powerbutton/QDANCE are a world apart as far as how the roll feels. powerbutton was super intense lots of energy and defqon had low energy and lots of euphoria. not to mention the difference in gurning and eye wiggles was very noticable between the 2 pills. well that makes sense to me.

the synth of mdma produces a racemic mixture unless you synth the (r) and (s) isomers separately and mix them. it makes no sense. dont forget mdma is a psychedelic, and no 2 trips (rolls) are identical. its a psychosomatic effect, or a tolerance effect. also, pills arent made to pharmaceutical standards. a pill average may be 180mg but it can vary from 160mg to 200mg, which can also explain the difference in subjective experience.

tl;dr - mdma is racemic because its cheaper, easier, and feels better. everything else is in your head

 

[Folley]

That's exactly what they do, they make the R isomer and S isomer separately and combine them in different ratios to create consistently different effects.


No one is arguing that it's cheaper to make racmic, but these pills are NOT cheap. These pills come from lab grade presses with access to multi thousand dollar equipment, hell maybe they just do it for fun. Arguing about it is rather pointless though, as no one can really prove it either way

 

[Odowakka]

I'm fairly sure you could find an answer to that question on dutch forums if you really wanted to. I probably wouldn't bother though because to be completely honest that sounds like a ridiculous conspiracy theory. I normally take 120-140mg, followed by another slightly smaller dose a bit later. Maybe once more if I'm heading to an after party. I've had nights on 500mg+ of really good md and to be honest it's not even that great, you're just totally 'fucked' stumbling around mumbling gibberish at people. As many have said, less is definitely more

 

[the toad]

That's exactly what they do, they make the R isomer and S isomer separately and combine them in different ratios to create consistently different effects.


No one is arguing that it's cheaper to make racmic, but these pills are NOT cheap. These pills come from lab grade presses with access to multi thousand dollar equipment, hell maybe they just do it for fun. Arguing about it is rather pointless though, as no one can really prove it either way

I remeber we discussed this before and determined that your speculating entirely regarding the different isomers...

 

[Folley]

I remembered that you dismissed me entirely because you thought it wasn't true even though you have no evidence to suggest that they DON'T, and that I have had several people back myself up and say literally the same exact thing that I have, even some people claiming to be close to the source.


You can dismiss me all you want, but it won't change my opinion on this at all unless you actually have something to back yourself up

 

[the toad]

I remembered that you dismissed me entirely because you thought it wasn't true even though you have no evidence to suggest that they DON'T, and that I have had several people back myself up and say literally the same exact thing that I have, even some people claiming to be close to the source.

You can dismiss me all you want, but it won't change my opinion on this at all unless you actually have something to back yourself up

My evidence is that it hasnt happened yet... your evidencce is that you think it might be.. happening

 

[andgy2777]

That's exactly what they do, they make the R isomer and S isomer separately and combine them in different ratios to create consistently different effects.


No one is arguing that it's cheaper to make racmic, but these pills are NOT cheap. These pills come from lab grade presses with access to multi thousand dollar equipment, hell maybe they just do it for fun. Arguing about it is rather pointless though, as no one can really prove it either way

Dutch pills are cheap - 250 to 350 euros for hundred pills, and far less if you're a serious distributor. The whole idea of R & S mixes is totally unfounded. They're simply not interested in doing such things. Generally they want the cheapest MDMA to put in their pills for a greater profit, this is why the high quality synth crystal is very rarely found in pills but the high end dutch crystal is something else.

 

[BluLait]

Planning on taking 120mg with a 40mg booster for my next roll. Never tried re-dosing, people say its not worth it and they're probably right but even so I just have to find out for myself. It's like those classic situations with a cash machine where its not working, the person ahead of you explains its not working, b ut you still have to check it out for yourself. lol.

Uncut MDMA is potent as fuck, whatever you're taking is weak.

That is what shulgin recommends.
But since your MDMA will only be 70-84% pure max, you should take a little bit more.

 

[JWills20]

That is what shulgin recommends.
But since your MDMA will only be 70-84% pure max, you should take a little bit more.

Not really, i've tried 130 and it was floory for about an hour, still amazing ofc. 120 is my next try with redose to increase the peak.

I have 0 tolerance to it which is great!

 

[gymstud]

100mg is a good dose but I'd always redose a few times if I get upto or over 500mg is a night ill feel very poorly next day
That would prob be over about 7-8 hours
I snort mine...
I also take alone at home

And I've not got a supply no more
Might never again

 

[Vader]

You can dismiss me all you want, but it won't change my opinion on this at all unless you actually have something to back yourself up

That's exactly what I tell people who dispute my claim that there's a teapot in lunostationary orbit behind the dark side of the moon.