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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

how much about meth is actually hype?

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How much of the stuff on tv about meth is hype?

like if you were to take a really small dose, as a coke like stimulant what would happen? im pretty sure you wouldnt end up like "the faces of meth"

but what would happen, in the short run and long run?

and how does it compare to a coke equivalent dose?

(from what i hear its like coke, but i dont know very much about it)

personally at the moment i have no interest in meth but i just want it to be demystified and taken out of the ever exaggerated eye of the law.

as well as...

what are the doses used for an average high?
how does it act in the brain?
etc
 
These kind of basic questions belong in BDD, I'll move this there for you.

It's very addictive, but if you did manage to keep it to occasional use there is still the possibility of neurotoxicity occuring and physical damage being done to your body, probably heart and blood pressure problems.

It's much stronger then coke, and assuming you are snorting it's also a lot more in your face, obviously a lot longer lasting as well. It's actually nothing like cocaine really.

It works in the brain by binding to dopamine and norepinephrine transporters and reversing them. These transporters usually take these neurotransmitters out of the synapse where they bind to receptors; when meth reverses them, the synapse is flooded and these neurotransmitters bind repeatedly.

As for doses, depends on how much it's cut; if it was pure stuff, snorting 10-20mg should get you pretty buzzed.

OD===>BDD
 
The high lasts much longer, and no don't believe all the bullshit stories about "everyone is hooked from first go".
i certainly wasn't, people just do not respect the power the drug has.
it has a long half-life, whereas coke lasts nowhere NEAR as long.
the 'Faces of Meth' is an extreme look at meth-users, but there definitely are people like that.
meth mouth has nothing to do with the meth, just users bad hygiene, i have used everyday for six yrs and my teeth are fine, and I do not look like the faces of meth. maybe I am just lucky.

how much it takes to get high depends on a persons tolerance. A first timer user should get a buzz off less than a point, whereas a heavy user sometimes needs over a gram.

if you are going to try it, just be careful and it should be fine. i know casual users who manage to keep it under control.
society/media portrays meth to be a lot worse than it is..but it can escalate into the extreme cases
 
I've really wanted to try meth the last few months, sort of just to try it and sort of cause it sounds like it would be an interesting time.

I've never seen it in person or heard of anyone selling it around here. I've never really run with an uppers crowd though, but the NE just doesn't seem to have much (aside from small circles I'm sure). I guess it's a good thing,
 
claire22 said:
how much it takes to get high depends on a persons tolerance. A first timer user should get a buzz off less than a point, whereas a heavy user sometimes needs over a gram.
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What's a point exactly? Is it exact weight or an eyeballed small dose?
 
claire22 said:
the 'Faces of Meth' is an extreme look at meth-users, but there definitely are people like that.
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but with people who use only a little, that doesnt happen right?

claire22 said:
how much it takes to get high depends on a persons tolerance. A first timer user should get a buzz off less than a point
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what is the buzz like? i hear its just like a coke high, like you feel all pumped and keen to do anything and everything. or does it become more like you have no idea wtf is going on.

claire22 said:
if you are going to try it, just be careful and it should be fine. i know casual users who manage to keep it under control.
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my friend is an ex meth addict, i dont know what dose he was on but he said when he wasnt on it he wanted to kill himself. when you say youve done it every day for ages, how do you feel on the days that your not on it? depressed? what kind of side effects have you noticed? is there a come down? how much do you use i.e. what is your average dosage

if you dont feel "hooked" what keeps you going? what is it that you love about meth so much?
 
no, you will definitely not look like that from using a little bit. that is EXTREME usage from many yrs of abuse.

the high just comes on and you want to talk talk talk . sometimes you will want to move anyway and everywhere but sometimes u just wanna sitdown and talk .. varies for everybody though

well personally i have never not had a whole day off it unless im asleep in six yrs..but i am going into detox tomorrow..this is my last day ever to use(hopefully). i am a massive addict BUT even i dont look like the faces of meth. u can see the signs of abuse but i have all my teeth and my face isnt totally fucked up.
iv gone a few hrs whilst not on it and i feel depressed, lack of energy/motivation to do anything, all i can think about is the meth really
i use a gram+ a day
i am hooked, but some friends are, they like the buzz and most use it for work/pure enjoyment on the weekends etc
 
how long does the high last? i mean if someone was to take a tiny dose for like a moter mouth boost or just to not feel tired over a day or even beat social anxiety's etc (lol hypotheticly speaking), would it last right through to next week... i hear a meth high lasts days or at least you cant sleep for days

what dose did you start off? did you think you could control it?


oh and thanks for the reply, its really quite interesting
 
if its a small dose then maybe 5-6 hrs .. no chance would it last any longer than 12 if its small
even if it was a big dose u wud not feel it for much longer than 24 hrs..
you can sleep usually the next day.
i didnt really count my dose just loaded pipes, haha
eh i denied to myself that i had an addiction for yrs
 
so if i was to have some now it would last 5-6 hours and i would be able to sleep tonight? or tomoro night? i remember with Ritalin i tried a small amount and couldn't sleep that night at all

whats the best rout of administration? personally im in favor of snorting

what are the differences in effect if its oral rather then smoked or snorted?

is there a comedown?
 
yeah you prob wouldn't be able to sleep tonight even after the buzz wears off
in my experience smoking gives a much better rush than snorting
this is because of the bio-availability
62.7% oral; 79% nasal; 90.3% smoked; 99% rectally; 100% IV
oral you will simply feel less, not as much buzz
comedown varies between different individuals, how long you were on it for, how much used.
 
well that certainly demystified meth for me. im sure it still has side effects and regulating it use yourself would be a fucking mission. so even at low doses you would probably get hooked and over all, more of a try it once and force yourself not to try again

lol that is the conclusion i have drawn so far

id think smoking is a lot worse for you then snorting. IV is just.. uh... no.. and oral would be the least harmful way of ingesting but probably least effective. rectal is kind of weird so prob not a good idea.

at the moment i think ill stick to pot and just wish that coke appears in my country (my upper of choice... apart from e... but that doesnt count)
 
^there is a chance you will get hooked but its not as likely as you would think. there is a chance you will get hooked to any drug really, it just depends on how much you like the drug, not the drug itself. i've done meth at least 20-30 times and loved the euphoria and high and never did it more than 2 days in a row and stopped when i felt like it, its wasn't addicting at all for me. i haven't done it now in over 2-3 years.
 
Orally is the best way to take meth. It's very bioavailable, comes on smooth, and lasts a long time.

It's not very addictive if you stick to reasonable doses. They prescribe meth to people with narcolepsy, ADD, and obesity - usually a 10mg pill of Desoxyn or two in the morning. Meth addicts who end up on a Faces of Meth commercial have usually abused it to the point where they are smoking/injecting 100mg or 200mg at a time, multiple times per day. Tolerance does grow quickly if you keep increasing the dose to get that first, best high you remember to come back. If you stick to little 20mg or 30mg doses it's for all intents and purposes exactly the same experience as taking Adderall.
 
over my yrs of taking meth , i have never eaten meth , but snorting i do not get the rush so i dont bother.. the bio availability is only 62.7% as i mentioned earlier so half is wasted.
 
Uh. 62.7% is a lot closer to 66% than it is to 50%. And that's compared to the 100% of IV. There's hardly any difference when comparing oral to snorted.

And as far as the 'rush'.. that's the part of meth that's no good. It's addictive and pointless. The sustained 12-24 hour euphoria and stimulation are the good parts.
 
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