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How much 2C-E is too much?

SizzleSword said:
Yeah I'm done here too, if someoe can't correlate something they had just posted to what another person said (you stated I didn't eat for five days when I did), that's pretty sad. Move along, pal.
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I didn't state that you didn't eat in 5 days, which I knew you thought, which is exactly why I said my point went over your head.

I was likening your self-destructive and irresponsible experiment that you claimed was conducted "just to find out the outcome," to not eating or drinking for 5 days just to see what would happen. The point is that you conducted an "experiment" with predictable results that was harmful and irresponsible for no real reason. That is why you're an idiot.
 
Because we're here to help people dude. Whether or not someone is hard headed, it doesn't warrant name calling. I'm sure that nobody on this forum is perfect, myself included. Patience, my fellow bluelighter. This negativity gets us nowhere.
 
It's hard not to get angry when valuable substances with real potential use and endless insight to offer are getting banned precisely because of people like the OP. These are the type of people that don't deserve an open pantry of beautiful substances - these are the kind of people that fuck it up for everyone who does their research, conducts themselves responsibly, and take measures not to let their actions affect other people. Sorry, it's hard not to practically froth.
 
Just because someone ingests a [said] number of drugs does not deem him as a unresponsible. You also took the contex of "to find out outcome" a little weak and completely forigiving. I was searching for something else, not just get to get higher.

And the only reason I may be an idiot is by posting my experience on here and having idiots like you respond that can't even keep up with the conversation. Go flush your DALT, IaMME90, you ain't gonna need that anymore.
 
LogicSoDeveloped said:
Because we're here to help people dude. Whether or not someone is hard headed, it doesn't warrant name calling. I'm sure that nobody on this forum is perfect, myself included. Patience, my fellow bluelighter. This negativity gets us nowhere.
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First good response I've got. People are going to do with what the'yre experienced to do doing. 20mg of 2C-E to John Done might feel like 2mg to me, who knows. Either way it goes, I don't appreciate being called and idiot and a dumbass when I'm clearly smarter than half of you that replied to this thread. It's sad.
 
And just to answer a question that apparently went unanwsered for a while, I DOSED THE 200MG DURIND THE COURSE OF A NIGHT. Not over the course of 5 days. This is what happens when people don't read posts right.
 
SizzleSword said:
Just because someone ingests a [said] number of drugs does not deem him as a unresponsible. You also took the contex of "to find out outcome" a little weak and completely forigiving. I was searching for something else, not just get to get higher.

And the only reason I may be an idiot is by posting my experience on here and having idiots like you respond that can't even keep up with the conversation. Go flush your DALT, IaMME90, you ain't gonna need that anymore.
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Normally I'd agree that amount of drugs ingested does not correlate with responsibility. However, when you take 10 times a heavy dose with a compound COMPLETELY new to you that is just too much to ignore. Even if you had some superhuman natural tolerance and tolerance from recent trips, 200mg is way too much to take responsibly. You probably should've asked before trying this...
 
You're not a dumbass man, nobody on here is a dumbass.

How many people on bluelight have done too much before? of anything for that matter. I've done too much of something before and learned my lesson but it wouldn't have helped me if people put me down. What helped was when people explained to me what I did wrong and didn't instead talk about how much I messed up and how dumb I was.

I'm not saying he was responsible, I'm saying he wasn't any more mistaken than anyone else could have been. He's still alive, right?
 
SizzleSword said:
And just to answer a question that apparently went unanwsered for a while, I DOSED THE 200MG DURIND THE COURSE OF A NIGHT. Not over the course of 5 days. This is what happens when people don't read posts right.
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Even though they were wrong about this, it doesn't help your case at all. 200mg over 5 days is much more responsible and reasonable than 200mg in one night.
 
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LogicSoDeveloped said:
You're not a dumbass man, nobody on here is a dumbass.

How many people on bluelight have done too much before? of anything for that matter. I've done too much of something before and learned my lesson but it wouldn't have helped me if people put me down. What helped was when people explained to me what I did wrong and didn't instead talk about how much I messed up and how dumb I was.
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Come on man, I'm willing to wager a lot of people here don't take 200mg over one night, intranasally at that, after some kids died taking doses of around 100mg (orally, I think).

It would be one thing if we had no knowledge about the dangers of excessively dosed 2ce. It's another when just weeks ago people have died from doses less excessive (though still excessive). It'd be another thing if he would admit to having been irresponsible in not researching the substance enough beforehand - ignorance is one thing - but when he insisted on his knowledge of the chem, yet chose to dose amounts that have killed people recently anyway, that is a giant FU to the entire scene and his own self.
 
It was actually one of the best trips I had despite the constant thirst and urination. Now after a few days that vasoconstriction and whatnot has gone away completely; so much for the fatal 2C-E induced 200mg psychosis.
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I never said you were going to die or go crazy for sure, just that there's not a lot of information one way or the other especially when it comes to high doses like 200mg. How are you certain that you haven't gone crazy anyway? These ridiculous posts you make aren't helping your argument.

Why do you think that many people here haven't had much experience with 2c-e or other psychedelics?

Show me the sources and studies that make you think 2c-e is well documented (on 200mg doses at that) and I'll accept that you are not insane or fucked up on benzos/alcohol when posting this shit. Or point me to some human studies on high doses of 2c-e and lingering after effects. If you were using LSD, then I could accept these claims as it has been studied far more than 2c-e.
 
I've heard the reports of 2C-T-7 doses and one fauxed 2C-E report with such propaganda as
'it was all over his hands and he was licking off little by little, by by the time we found him he was dead with chemicals all over his hands.

You're turning this into some dumb DEA CIA bullshit like that. I've been studying the 2C compounds since about 2001 whether it matters to you or not, and pershaps you're just a bit worried that I did a 200mg dose and ended up fine. Hope this isn't some dick-sizing content in the making.

When I know what I'm doing and I'm in safe territory, let me do what I do. I don't need some wannabe RC-Officer telling me I can't do so-and-so amount of this for whatever reason. It's my choice, i know my own body, I know what it can handle. You got kids snorting MDPV and I' not gonna get into that;
 
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OK now I think we're sort of berating/goading the guy. Yea he did a dangerously high dose, and that was bay-yud M-Kay? He survived but with some unwanted side effects. Point's been made I think. Kids, don't try this at home.
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16600701

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570023206001978

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-E

While none of these mention taking doses like 200mg in a single settings, it shows that the 2C-E is porocessed through the body very quickly and easily.

I took 200mg of 2C-E with the lights off playing The Moody Blues, I hand an insanely hard but profound trip, I took some klonopin to calm down, and I went to sleep. End of story. I don't know where all this crack head behavior I'm accused of comes from.
 
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The side effects are non-existent at this point, that's what I've been trying to bring to everyone's attention.
 
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Well the cavalier "no harm no foul" attitude makes it seem like you are endorsing as a good fun time a dose which it is thought has killed some people recently.

Hence the critiques.

You should have expected as much. You had it coming. It was necessary to say. Comprende?
 
Still haven't seen the 2C-E death reports besides the fauxed one. I knew what I was doing when I did it, and I did it. I didn't die or come close to dying, I had a wonderful experience; yet, since I took 200mg of the substance, I'm the devil for using more than usual. What about people that take multiple hits of acid to get where they wants to go? You get the same kinda effcst you get from 2C-E on the body.
 
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You can do whatever you want to do. It's your body yes and I'm not going to stop you from doing 200mg or 2000mg or whatever you want.

Still, where is your source that says 200mg doses are safe? Or even any information to show me that 2c-e is well documented like LSD/mushrooms/mescaline/dmt? Seems a bit dangerous to be taking high doses without this information. If it's been well studied and these doses are fine then maybe I'm missing out and I can finally start dosing 200mg without fear of adverse side effects (wasn't that your question in the first place??)

It's going to get banned anyway, just from the bad press lately. I've been using psychedelics for as long as you have, it's not a dicksizing competition, maybe you can handle 200mg and I can't, I don't really care. You shouldn't have snorted 20mg of 2c-e without doing a test dose to ensure it was not mislabelled at least. That's not responsible, vendors fuck up sometimes.

Some of your posts don't even make a whole lot of sense or are ambiguous because of your typos, with some guessing I can fill in the blanks and figure out what you mean but fuck, do you have missing keys or something?

^LSD has plenty of research to back up it's safety at doses 10x what you need to trip, it's a much different story when it comes to LSD. 2c-e has not been studied to this extent. And the body load is much different. 10 hits of LSD wouldn't cause the same side effects.

Thanks for the sources, but those 2 are on rats (they are also the same study) and the wikipedia page isn't very illuminating when it comes to doses at or around 200mg. I'll still take the time to read them anyway; not trying to demonize your experiences, but I'd love to know how safe 2c-e really is. One study isn't quite enough to convince me.
 
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I admit not being responsible and taking the allergic test, but this was a planned event and the 2C-E was dosed on a friend the day before and he said it's the best stuff he's had in yyears.

I don't codone people doing these doses frequntly or at all, I was just sharing the fact that I did 200mg and I had an overwhelming experiece and never felt close to dying or having any type or crisis.

My n key does work and sometimes my d key hits the s button instead.
 
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