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How many mg of bupe = 30mg of oxy?

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No, don't give me any of that "hurpderp bupe is partial agonist you can't compare them" crap Google gives me.

There has to be a dose of suboxone that would give me a similar opiate high feeling that 30mg of oxy would, the partial agonist crap only applies if I was asking for, say "How much bupe is like 200mg of oxy?"
 
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It's not just because it's a partial agonist that you can't compare them. It's very difficult to measure an equivalent dose because buprenorphine is unusual in that its effects are non-linear so you can't just say something like 1mg bupe for every 20mg of oxy. That's why bupe is not on opioid equivalency charts. To explain, it might be something more like 1mg bupe = 15mg oxy, 1.5 mg bupe = 30mg oxy, 2mg bupe = 45mg oxy and so on (Note: I am just making these numbers up to illustrate my point). In addition, the effects vary greatly from person to person. All you can really do is start with a very low dose and increase it if needed.

The only other answers you might get are going to be subjective reports from people who use both oxy and bupe and can tell you how much bupe feels equivalent to around 30mg of oxy for them, and I'm thinking there might be more people who have that experience in OD. Would you like this thread to be moved to OD?
 
Swimmingdancer said:
The only other answers you might get are going to be subjective reports from people who use both oxy and bupe and can tell you how much bupe feels equivalent to around 30mg of oxy for them, and I'm thinking there might be more people who have that experience in OD. Would you like this thread to be moved to OD?
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Yes, those are the answers I was looking for. And sure, that sounds like a good idea, thank you :)
 
Captain.Heroin said:
I don't think there has to be, IMO.
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This.

Use the forum search engine, we're not going to go over the same material ad nauseum. There's an opioid conversion link in my signature, but taking an equipotent dose does not mean you will feel "like oxy". Buprenorphine is not oxycodone, all opioids are different and produce effects unique to them, it's not as simple as taking an equipotent dose.
 
Well, for analgesia, 10mg of IV morphine is equivalent to .3mg of IV buprenorphine (and since sublingual buprenorphine has a 30% absorption, you could say around 1mg = .3mg IV). I plugged the equivalent IV dosage of morphine to 30mg of oral oxycodone into this narcotic converter, and found that 15mg of IV morphine is approximately equal to 30mg of oral oxycodone. This would mean that a rough estimate for an equivalent dose of buprenorphine would be .45mg IV, or around 1.5mg sublingual.

The real problem with converting dosages of full agonists to buprenorphine is that bupe has a cieling effect, meaning that at a certain dosage, the agonist effects plateau. It would be great to know exactly when an additional milligram or microgram would not produce further opioid activity (with acute dosing), but we really don't, and it seems to vary from person to person. However, from what I've read (as this topic has always interested me), the ceiling is likely around 4mg when taken sublingually, and 1.3mg parentally.

A lot of people from what I've read on this site seems to experience buprenorphine as being very different from other opioids, even when taken with little to no tolerance at all. I have to disagree based on my own experiences with it. Whenever I've kicked on my own and havnt used any opiates in 3 days or more, suboxone will get me really smashed, even if I take just two mg, and it really feels exactly like any other opiate, perhaps a bit more stimulating at times, but I wouldn't say anymoreso than oxy (also a Thebaine derivative). When I detox off of methadone completely, and have a couple weeks clean without using any opioids, I would love to get another script for suboxone, and just take it every once in a while to get buzzed instead of going out and copping.
 
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