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How many E pills (these days) actually contain MDMA?

It's got the point I'd happily pay £200 for a real MDMA experience. I just want to know what the hype is about!
 
davez, MDMA is tricking back through like I say. Depends where you are in the country by seek out pure MDMA, not pills.

The hype is justified, my first experience on MDMA was the best night of my life.
 
GZero said:
davez, MDMA is tricking back through like I say. Depends where you are in the country by seek out pure MDMA, not pills.

The hype is justified, my first experience on MDMA was the best night of my life.
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I might just start wearing a t-shirt "need mdma will pay over the odds for it" to raves.
 
Now I'm told several new, large, labs have opened and I have heard that they have found a new synthesis method which makes production viable again
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A new synthesis method? Is this just a rumour or is there some evidence for it?
I hope it is true, the safrole restrictions have crushed the European MDMA market the last couple of years, especially for the UK.

I have heard that more pure molly is going around London far more frequently now and MDMA is on the increase so perhaps a new synthesis route was discovered.
 
Special Monster:
I'm not chemist, but some people who I would trust to know have told me that there is CERTAINLY a new synthesis method. The details depend on who you ask.

Some say it no longer involves Safrole oil (I find this hard to believe), they all say that they have found an alternative to one of the major precursors which had recently been outlawed in China (alas, i forget the name). One thing that may or may not have a bearing is that I've heard the new approach leaves you with lower yeilds and involves quite a convoluted purification process.

I have no evidence of this, and I would imagine the process will remain private for a while.

I'd like some molly! Also as our county runs out of money, you will see good quality drugs return, and I think when the Tories get in, we'll see a return to the old days where most things were readily available and high quality.
 
Thanks for the detailed information GZero!

That was the one part of it I found hard to believe as well, I assumed that a new synthesis route would mean they have found an alternative to safrole and isosafrole.

I think the rumour of a low yield supports the idea that safrole is not used, it could be that they are using too relatively new synthetic compound as an alternative precursor.
The low yield could turn out to be a problem though seeing as MDMA was always a worthwhile synthesis due to its high yield and therefore high profit.

The drug drought seems to be fading.

Good quality drugs have already started to come back, I hadn't seen good LSD tabs for at least 2 years and all of a sudden there has been a boom in good acid in my surrounding cities.

I'm expecting this summer to be a good summer <3
 
This is simply a Travesty, everyone should have the equal opportunity to taste the Fuckin rainbow!!! (=
 
The only bunk (not pipes or bombs, just no or little mdma) pills I've gotten were at raves. Molly and planning ahead has always been excellent. Gotten three/four bunk rolls ever I guess? Gotten more bunk acid than that :(
 
I've only had one pipe experience (the only time I ever triple dropped) in 15 years of infrequent rolling and have been fortunate enough to source tidy beans otherwise. Oz has been plagued by shitty pills for a long time despite the odd decent batches that always get yomped up pretty quick. If GZero is right about a new synthesising method I'm sure we consumers downunda will happily pay for a return to quality product. It also means the pressers will get the chance to redeem themselves after the years of knowingly poisoning and ripping people off. Folk I know have had surges of rage after outlaying big $ for dodgy pills and I'm quite surprised more dealers and pressers haven't gone for the deep six for their sins. A return to old school quality will be good for everyone in the food chain, no question.
 
Special_Monster said:
A new synthesis method? Is this just a rumour or is there some evidence for it?
I hope it is true, the safrole restrictions have crushed the European MDMA market the last couple of years, especially for the UK.

I have heard that more pure molly is going around London far more frequently now and MDMA is on the increase so perhaps a new synthesis route was discovered.
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Helional method of manufacture. It doesn't use safrole, isosafrole, or piperadol as the precursor -- all of which are list 1 precursors in the USA. I'm sure similar measure are in place for those chems in the UK as well (i know for sure there is one for mdp2p ketone).
 
dyam i feel bad, if that happened where i lived i would be sooooo pissed! in Canada there is alot of pure mdma going around....ever since i started i actually havnt gotten or seen a E pill but only molly.
 
Ecstacydata's submissions seem to be 30% (slightly higher). Thats simply what pills they have been sent in for testing though....I'm sure the actual numbers are different. I managed to acquire pure MDMA pressed pills last month- they DO exist. Though there tends to be this constant statement of "(insert drug here) was so much better and cleaner back in the day!", I don't think that is such the case in reality, it tends to come in waves, and what made E so great "back in the day" was more likely your virginal brain enjoying the honeymoon period of MDMA, rather than the quality of the drugs available, but thats entirely my opinion too. I
 
i've never had a bunk pill, but i have heard about them and i avoid them. i'd rather just not take anything than get pipe'd. recently, we've been flooded with a couple of good presses so i am quite content. a lot of molly floating around too.
 
I was in the Fl scene from 98-04 and i can tell you in those days there was FIRE..I mean 1 pill and you would roll for hours..I think these days a lot of people that buy them have NO CLUE about how a roll should feel and will buy anything..I have taking a couple pills here and there in Fl and i can tell you that they are Definatly not like they used to be...
 
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