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Misc How long should I wait after wisdom tooth removal to get high?

underairpressure

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Been using muscimol for a while now, taken orally. I have a wisdom tooth removal coming up soon, and they plan to put me under, so I've quit using it for a week prior.

I was told "no alcohol for 24 hours after surgery", so I figured I could start taking it again 2 days after surgery....... but I'm not sure if I should try and wait a little longer. It's not smoking, and I don't think it dries out my mouth, but it Does spike my heart rate/blood pressure a bit, and, well, there's just not a lot of information about muscimol and any risks it may have if used right after a surgery/anesthesia.

So I figured I'd ask here. Do you guys think I'd be fine taking it just 2 days after surgery? Thoughts? If I'm in a lot of pain I'll probably put it off anyway, but..... I'd like to take it again as soon as possible
 
No alcohol for 24 hours? umm no you arent getting off that easy its more like atleast 2 weeks until you heal that much. Also you will need antibiotics and opiates and they fuck your stomach enough and you cant drink safely on opiates anyway. Trust me youl be in no mood to drink anyway

When i had my wisdom teeth taken out i was given antibiotics and percocets and lucky me neither worked for me. Then i was put on azithromyacin and demerol aka pethedine and that como worked fantastic. Cleared the infection up and the demerol killed the pain. But ya i didt drink for like a moth after getting my widom teeth taken out. At day 2 you can barely eat jello so i dont know how you could drink with a still bloody mouth that is gross. I say go stleast 2 weeks without drinking.
 
The "no alcohol" is because they don't want you to get too high. That's a real thing, I guess, but an abundance of caution and going real slow would prolly be what I would do. 'Course, caution and alcohol don't mix, so don't drink just because it makes you do stupid shit.

You don't even want to do too much that's vigorous activity for a while.

As to pot. Not smoking after an extraction is real. You can get a dry socket. You shouldn't even be drinking out of a straw for a while. So, edibles and/or shotguns if you're a gonna.

Muscimol? Wow. There's an unknown. What are you taking it for in what doses? Can't it make you do (real) stupid stuff in higher doses? In small, known doses, I'd say to just be real cautious. 1/2 dose or less and wait hours for your first try. Like that.
 
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Wow, in the UK they just tell you to take Ibuprofen afterwards if in pain and they give you a little cleaning kit for the area with mouthwash. I recently had a front tooth taken out and it was agony for about 4 hours then the pain subsided significantly, it was then noticeable for a few more days.
 
The "no alcohol" is because they don't want you to get too high. That's a real thing, I guess, but an abundance of caution and going real slow would prolly be what I would do. 'Course, caution and alcohol don't mix, so don't drink just because it makes you do stupid shit.

You don't even want to do too much that's vigorous activity for a while.

As to pot. Not smoking after an extraction is real. You can get a dry socket. You shouldn't even be drinking out of a straw for a while. So, edibles and/or shotguns if you're a gonna.

Muscimol? Wow. There's an unknown. What are you taking it for in what doses? Can't it make you do (real) stupid stuff in higher doses? In small, known doses, I'd say to just be real cautious. 1/2 dose or less and wait hours for your first try. Like that.

No intentions of smoking or drinking, at least....... so I'm good there

"You don't even want to do too much that's vigorous activity for a while." Fuck........ was afraid of hearing that. Running is one of the only ways I can relieve stress (besides doing drugs). And running/dancing around is one of the main things I do on muscimol, too. This makes me anxious.......

I've been taking ~250mg almost every other day (gummy form). Used to have to take 500-1000mg but either the stuff I'm buying got stronger somehow or I got more sensitive to it. I choose it because after I blew my dissociative tolerance crazy high, I needed a new drug to use regularly (that would still allow me to work full time), and muscimol has a lot of things I love about it.

I've never done anything particularly stupid on it, but to be fair I kind of have a routine lol

Thank you for the tips/suggestions!!
 
I had #3 pulled. And I was drinking fine. I stopped vaping, or was trying to be careful about, as you can get a dry socket which I hear are extremely painful.
Anyway, pot wise I switched to edibles more so. For 5 days they recommend no straws or smoking.

Side note, I wasn't put under for it. Just novocaine and I requested nitrous.
 
I had #3 pulled. And I was drinking fine. I stopped vaping, or was trying to be careful about, as you can get a dry socket which I hear are extremely painful.
Anyway, pot wise I switched to edibles more so. For 5 days they recommend no straws or smoking.

Side note, I wasn't put under for it. Just novocaine and I requested nitrous.

Got it, I'll avoid straws and smoking for sure. Seems edible stuff/pills aren't too risky but it might depend on what it is.

I'm getting anesthesia, but how badly it affects you depends on how long you're under, and my surgeon is apparently lightning fast........ so I guess I'll see how I feel
 
I've seen people come out from under anasthesia and you're definitely going to be groggy for the day.
 
Quicky web search
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Take it easy for the first few days. In most cases, you can resume normal activities after the first day, but it would be best to wait about a week. You don't want to do anything that could dislodge the blood clot from the removal site. Place an ice pack over your jaw to help with swelling.
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But really, you're worried about activities people do without any drug. Ask your doctor, just don't mention Muscimol. I imagine the length of time depends on how involved the surgery was.

More internet poop
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Healing time varies by individual, but many people find they can return to work 2–3 days following wisdom teeth removal. This may be longer if the job requires strenuous activity. Check with the oral surgeon for their recommendation.

Any strenuous activity should be avoided for 2 to 3 days. After this time, a person can gradually begin to resume regular activities.

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So, there's a bare minimum. Ask your doctor.
 
I was told "no alcohol for 24 hours after surgery", so I figured I could start taking it again 2 days after surgery....... but I'm not sure if I should try and wait a little longer. It's not smoking, and I don't think it dries out my mouth, but it Does spike my heart rate/blood pressure a bit, and, well, there's just not a lot of information about muscimol and any risks it may have if used right after a surgery/anesthesia.
Alcohol thin's the blood, which is probably the reason they mention it. They also ask if you are on blood thinner's before the procedure.

The dry mouth thing, and the anti-biotic's seem a bit contradictory. Weed or Amphetamine's, both dry the mouth, and were not mentioned to avoid. While they knew about my usage/ prescription.

Anti-Biotic's according to "The Dental Society" should be prescribed very reluctantly. Only in case of an abcess or established inflamation.
Not preventive. So I did't take, why destroy every good bacteria in your mouth and gut, that fight any bad one trying to infect the wound.

And their are lot's of orally active natural anti-biotic's I would rather take (they don't cause resistence, and leave the good one's alone):
Garlic/ Allicine, Ginger, Sage, Mustard oil, Oregano, extra-vierge Coconut butter and colloidal Silver. Probably lot's of more. The Amoxycilline is back up, just in case off.

In case of, I am totally anti-Fluoride. That poison never prevented a cavity. And our teeth are made of Calcium/ Magnesium/ Zinc-Hydroxy-Apatite not Fluor or even Hydroxy-Fluor-Apatite like Shark's teeth.

Conclusion it beat's any sensitive Fluoride containing toothpaste. It actually works de-sensitiving.
 
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They are finally waking up to the fact that excessive Fluoride can be bad. Putting it in drinking water was crazy. In toothpaste (if it's not in your water)? Not so bad.
 
In Spain only paracetamol or ibuprofen from teeth removal. I had my four and was in no pain at all. Opioids are not prescribed for this reason. I think people go to work the same day of the intervention.
 
They are finally waking up to the fact that excessive Fluoride can be bad. Putting it in drinking water was crazy. In toothpaste (if it's not in your water)? Not so bad.
In your toothpaste, for what function?

Fluoride is poison right? The only reason they can put it in toothpaste is it fall's under topical appliance's (its not a food product, tell that to children/ their toothpaste's taste like Strawberry). So something you may not ingest, or have absorbed in the mouth. But taste's like weird candy?
Ime, Fluoride did nothing good for my teeth, so far as I noticed, even my dentist shutted up after that remark. Why else the holes?

Calcium/ Magnesium/ Zinc-Hydroxy-Apatite is safe/ more logical, uses a 'likewise theory: repairing the starting holes in your teeth (never saw any proof that really happens/ neither with Fluor but)'.
Brand: Splat/ Silver

Apatite you can at least ingest, same applied for the milk derived peptide one without Fluoride.

For many years it has been known that milk and its derivatives have a tooth protective effect. Research has shown that this activity is due to a part of the casein protein called Casein Phosphopeptide (or CPP), which carries calcium and phosphate ions in the form of Amorphous Calcium Phosphate (or ACP). Fluoride free: MI Paste Moose from GC.

Or when pro Fluor they have a Fluoride containing one to.
With added acid-resistant Fluor(o)-(Hydroxy)-Apatite (fluor-apatite according to the site), probably that stuff shark teeth are made of. That at least sounds a bit more plausible vs the other Fluoride's used.
Same brand: MI Paste Plus from GC.


People with Thyroid problem's are advised to not even get near Fluor. As it disrupt's the production of T3 hormone. Like Jodium, Fluor has preference's: Thyroid, Bones and the Brain. Unfluoridated tap-water even contain's more as normal clean surface water. Let alone Well water from a mountain spring.
 
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I don't think that "Fluoride is a poison" has been proven in any way. It likely does have a protective effect on your teeth in proper doses. However, they are finally admitting that Fluoride in excessive doses is harmful.

They have actually for years been saying that "it is harmless in proper doses". It doesn't take a genius to figure that people cannot and should not be circumspect about their doses of water.

I went for a brain scan years back and there was a big white thang right in the middle. Asking the neurologist about it he said, "That's your pineal gland. It's calcified. Not bad for a man your age actually. (I was around 40 at the time) Common in the west from the fluoride in drinking water." Your more creative folks say that's a plot to make us less spiritual and meditative so we are better consumers. I actually don't totally discount that but what is surely true is that it does have a lot to do with older folks sleeping less well.

So, yeah, I fully agree that fluoride in the drinking water was a capitalist plot (as opposed to a commie plot, a capitalist plot is to make money). But it's likely not bad in toothpaste (if you avoid swallowing) and in Fluoride treatment. Might even have a benefit. Really though, if you believe it's a total poison you're not going to miss out on much, and you might even be right.
 
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We had a wise man, a 'ordinary' family dr. Moolenburgh who stopped the tap-water Fluorisation project 1969. Still Fluor treatment's were done or pill's (the alternative/ swallow vs spit) and the toothpaste's.

In my youth I had malformation's on my growht point's on my underlegs.
Which I recently read have a lot incommon with malformation's of bones caused by Fluor. My daughter has also benign malformation's in here upper-bone-marrow with negative effect's on the Femur bone, the hard part. My ex who, beside's the typical white spot's (to much Fluor) on here teeth in her youth, now has thyroid problem's. So is advised to avoid Fluoride toothpaste, Tea's except White Tea and some other thing's. According to the research published.

Both my mom and I have white matter in our brain on MRI/ CT. No idea if this has an relation just like the two benign Cyst's they found both sides of my Pineal gland. They didn't mention it being Calcified so let's assume not.

Its also likely Calcium/ Magnesium/ Zinc-Hydroxy-Apatite (what enamal primarly consist's of) or CCP/ ACP have an benefical effect, maybe even Fluoro-Hydroxy-Apatite. So why choose Fluoride, whatever ordinary form offered. The alternative's seem more plausible and safer.
 
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We had a wise man, a 'ordinary' family dr. Moolenburgh who stopped the tap-water Fluorisation project 1969. Still Fluor treatment's were done or pill's (the alternative/ swallow vs spit) and the toothpaste's.

In my youth I had malformation's on my growht point's on my underlegs.
Which I recently read have a lot incommon with malformation's of bones caused by Fluor. My daughter has also benign malformation's in here upper-bone-marrow with negative effect's on the Femur bone, the hard part. My ex who, beside's the typical white spot's (to much Fluor) on here teeth in her youth, now has thyroid problem's. So is advised to avoid Fluoride toothpaste, Tea's except White Tea and some other thing's. According to the research published.

Both my mom and I have white matter in our brain on MRI/ CT. No idea if this has an relation just like the two benign Cyst's they found both sides of my Pineal gland. They didn't mention it being Calcified so let's assume not.

Its also likely Calcium/ Magnesium/ Zinc-Hydroxy-Apatite (what enamal primarly consist's of) or CCP/ ACP have an benefical effect, maybe even Fluoro-Hydroxy-Apatite. So why choose Fluoride, whatever ordinary form offered. The alternative's seem more plausible and safer.
Interesting. Yeah, my "brain scan" was an MRI. I am 100% against Fluoridation of drinking water. Drinking a lot of water should be good and you are concentrating anything in it with long cooked stews, extractions, etc.. My Neurologist was the one who said the calcification was commonly from Fluoride.
 
Thank's @brokedownpalace10 very good info. But with a darkside, disruption of sleep among them.

To bad that they discussed my Pineal gland besides telling about the two benign cyst's, they never went any deeper. So I have no clue about the degree of Calcification of it, might it be Calcified. But it would explain the change in sleep architecture now vs. in my younger day's (when living was mwaah, but sleeping easy).
 
In Spain only paracetamol or ibuprofen from teeth removal. I had my four and was in no pain at all. Opioids are not prescribed for this reason. I think people go to work the same day of the intervention.
Overhere the same, break your arm and go to hospital A and you get Diclofenac or Naproxen ? (which caused more pain then what it was prescribed for). Felt like digesting a harpoen.

Go to hospital B, and you leave with 84 5 mg Oxycodone IR/ 3 times 5 mg. Perfect painkiller no side effect's which I used as prescribed.
And didn't get me addicted. People and places, there is no clear protocol obviously.

And dental surgery is alway's the same. Just sit out the pain. Once tried getting some Codeine after dental surgery, got a weird look and a presciption for Paracetamol or Ibuprofen.

Kratom saved the day.
 
I'd wait a week for any kind of smoke, also booze.
I got a dry socket from smoking cigarettes and it hurt like hell and another dentist appointment and it took forever to heal.
 
Thanks everyone for the tips and stuff. Just wanted to update in case anyone in the future is in the same position I was in

Surgery/anesthesia went perfectly fine. I waited til the 2nd day after surgery to trip again, and I don't think I'd recommend it........ nothing bad happened in the end, but it caused me to swallow a lot and get dry mouth, which was risky (and uncomfortable). I absolutely could have popped my stitches or given myself dry socket.

So I'd probably recommend waiting 5+ days, at least. For muscimol anyways, can't speak for other drugs.
 
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