redsky1718
Bluelighter
i was just wondering whats the bast way to store e how long does it stay good for? i have a few pill that i want to save for a while/rainy day what the best way to store them.?
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how long does e stay good for?
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cacophonaut
Bluelighter
If you keep it dry MDMA will last for a long, long time. I believe Shulgin has expressed sentiment to the effect that if the chemical were entombed in an ancient Egyptian pyramid and discovered today it would still be usable. I know I've left stashes for months and they have never deteriorated in quality like some drugs can.
3rd_I_blind
Bluelighter
With a bit of dessicant, MDMA can be kept almost indefinitely.
Moisture is your number 1 enemy, mostly cause it will make your tablet fall apart which is very annoying.
Moisture is your number 1 enemy, mostly cause it will make your tablet fall apart which is very annoying.
snowboarder7791
Bluelighter
what about the material that is used to make pills... since there is always some type of binding agent to keep the pills somewhat together...
3rd_I_blind
Bluelighter
Well, if you do not use an inert filler for your tablets, you are an absolute retard.
Most fillers are designed to fall apart when they come into contact with fluids, which is why you should keep tablets dry.
They might have used starch, which means bacteria can grow on your tablets and bacteria can then fuck up the MDMA.
But if you keep them dry, bacteria will not really have a chance anyway.
Most fillers are designed to fall apart when they come into contact with fluids, which is why you should keep tablets dry.
They might have used starch, which means bacteria can grow on your tablets and bacteria can then fuck up the MDMA.
But if you keep them dry, bacteria will not really have a chance anyway.
3rd_I_blind
Bluelighter
You should share mate.
delta_9
Bluelighter
How would bacteria "fuck up" mdma?
Bacteria/mold is not gonna grow on a pill. If the conditions are right for bacteria or mold species, then there are gonna be plenty of better substrate options.
Even if(HUGE "if") this happens, the mdma will be fine, chemically speaking.
3rd_I_blind
Bluelighter
Bacteria are known to secrete enzymes and other proteins/molecules to enable uptake of nutritients.
Such enzymes could for instance be of the MOA type, thus metabolizing MDMA.
Most bacteria can also secrete quite strong acids, which might lead to loss of MDMA.
Then there is also the possibility of bacteria just taking up MDMA without further metabolizing it.
This might also lead to loss of MDMA, as MDMA inside a bacteria takes much longer to become available for uptake.
But why focus on what I said about the bacteria?
Most important is to keep your pills dry.
If you do that, nothing is gonna happen.
The OP specifically asked about the influence of filler material on stability, so I went in on that.
augustaB
Bluelighter
Dear redsky
Your pill should stay good for a long time if you keep it in a cool place. I keep my stash in a 35 mm film roll container with a condom stretched over it. Seems to work pretty well.
Your pill should stay good for a long time if you keep it in a cool place. I keep my stash in a 35 mm film roll container with a condom stretched over it. Seems to work pretty well.