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How is it possible to have bad trips? I don't understand this

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Alldaykk

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I always read online and different sources people have bad trips on halluconogens IE LSD, mushrooms, ect.

When I read these, it makes me nervous about psychadelics wondering if I will have a bad trip. I have only tried acid once and shrooms once, both times they were really really trippy, tons of crazy stuff happened, but I never had a "bad trip"

I alway take a bad trip as u start dwelling on a bad memory too much or just completely dissacociated to the point where u get scared. But everytime I trip, I am trippin but I realize the reason behind the trip, that I took something.

I may not understand the trip or exactly what is happening, but I remember why it is happening and that is enough to assure I won't ever have a bad trip. Even with salvia

is this normal? Is it more common to have a bad trip the higher dosage you take? It just seems like so many people get bad trips, but it's just a bring down because honestly if I never knew you could have a bad trip, after trying psychadelics I probably wouldn't even think it's possible.

Opinions? Questions?
 
I’m opposite, on low dosages is when I get bad trips. On high dosages, like 7-8 grams of mushrooms, I am just too high to care. On something like 2 grams I feel sick for the duration of the trip and scared. I wonder if I am the only one here who gets that.
 
This post might be of some use to you although I think you already know how to avoid bad trips naturally, but now the thought of them is scaring you since you heard about them. Just do your thing. :) And read that post.
 
I didn't think it was possible either, but then you get so fucked up it's hard to be rational. Plus, it's hard to ignore demons coming out of the wall at you.
 
I never had a bad trip from mushrooms, but only tried maybe 5 or 6 times. But I used to take mescaline and acid when I lived up north. I hated having to go home and be alone, it's great to stay the duration with a friend and come down gradually together drinking. Once I had done acid with a boyfriend and we were nature hiking - just started peaking. He said something that pissed me off and I called him a dick, I mean it just fell out of my mouth and I would normally never say this. That was the start of a bad trip and he was all offended and dropped me home. It just ruined the whole buzz.
The whole idea is to be around people you feel comfortable with and a general nice environment. You're right about the bad memory part, all it takes is one negative thing to make your trip go badly. Or getting stopped by the police in the middle of the night...
 
my first few times on mushrooms were pretty terrible trips. i'd get too caught up in my mind and my thoughts would just swirl out of control, and my reality would start to form around my thoughts (which were, usually, pretty pessimistic at the time.)

having a pessimistic mindset definitely contributed to the bad trips...

these days though, a bad trip is almost unheard of, though sometimes i can feel the tides starting to turn. a trip can be thrown almost instantly from a hilarious experience filled with nothing but the sounds of giddy laughter, into a hellish, demonic world that seeks to suck the soul out of your very body.
if you ever feel a bad trip coming just force yourself to relax.
 
Well my first and only real bad trip I wasn't ready for at all. I planned to only do somewhere between 2-3.5g, but ended up accidentally taking at least 5g. It was my second trip ever and my first one didn't even really count cause it was on a SUPER low dose of shrooms with barely visuals. It was in the worst conditions ever.


Wall of text, but it is all very much related and should help:

I'm not gonna describe much of the actual trip, but it was as bad as a trip can get. I tried to go to the bathroom after eating the shrooms, but had already started tripping pretty hard because it took me a while to eat all the shrooms so I freaked out when I accidentally shut the door in the bathroom without the lights off so I ran back to my room. I had a panic attack when I started tripping hard and my brother came in telling a friend to move his car and I already had my shirt torn off and was bright red EVERYWHERE cause I was freaking out. I was tripping on way too high of a dose to have people talking around me, there were like 4 other people tripping in my room with my parents home. For what seemed like hours I managed to stay stable and put up with being stuck in my head knowing it'd be over, I was handling it pretty well, but time was WAYYYY slower and it felt like hours and then days had gone by. My friends were saying the worst things ever and I could only hear them and everything that I heard I was forced to consider, they said stuff like just dieee and nobody likes youuu and all sorts of stuff, but it wasn't actually directed at me I found out later. I thought I had been locked up somewhere cause I thought days had gone by and I was stuck in my head still and had gone crazy and I thought my parents were around me for part of it looking down on me and all sad. I thought tons of people died as well, shit was terrible. I ended up pissing myself without realizing that is what I was doing, it just felt like I was about to explode and I had to let go so I did, then I just felt like I was floating in the ocean for the rest of the trip and it was peaceful. Eventually realized I was alive after about 5 hours of tripping and it took me months to become somewhat stable again. One of my friends actually had the nerve to ask me for food as soon as I came to and I flipped out cause there was so much shit going through my head.

I had another shroom trip that sort of started to go bad cause I was still not 100% mentally stable, but I tore off my shirt (I tend to do that a lot on drugs, I get hot and it feels so much better) and chilled outside on my lawn with my dog the rest of the night although it took me a bit to get there, I got taken away when I opened the door for idk how long and this often happens to me on shrooms. Don't trip with any chance of running into parents or anyone imo, it makes you have stuff to be worried about when you zone out constantly like I was, it was quite frustrating. During both of these trips I was taking Prozac and gradually becoming addicted to amphetamines to deal with the suicidal urges, nowadays I don't have any problem with tripping as long as I'm in the right mood and environment for me. The main causes of bad trips are bad environments/situations and mental issues.
 
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i've never had a trip that was uniformly bad from beginning to end, but i've certainly had some difficult times while tripping. Ultimately it was usually productive though
 
You'll probably have one eventually. But you'll make it.
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If someone experienced what I did and wasn't as well off mentally I think it could greatly effect who they are, more than it did me, and probably much more negatively. I was less than ideal mentally, but there are way more fragile people than me, I believe I'm extremely resilient tbh.
 
I've had more chronic pain recently and when im tripping i tend to dwell on it. Like my old trips were awesome, but now its hard to not think about the pain/discomfort, so i dont trip very frequently now. The body can have a great effect on the mind, and can put you in an unfavorable mental state.
 
Just like real "trips", poor planning can make for a bad trip. Be with friends you trust and at least have an idea of how they'll act and act toward you. Bring stuff to even out if your head gets tingling to much. Stay out of tall buildings!!! Go to the woods for chrissakes! Concerts can be good trips, again, as long as you've got good folks around you. Only bad one's I had, and I used to tutor chemistry, history and economics while tripping, is don't do it when you're isolated, alone, upset, etc. The whole reason for a trip is fun and expansion of your senses, its a waste of 'shrooms or "smilin' cidney" to trip when pissed at yourself or someone else. And, again, please stay out of tall buildings (even if you are with friends, that old "I can fly" adage, ain't a tale invented by "the Man"!!
 
You're pretty much on the right track - most 'bad trips' are just negative thought loops (thinking about something difficult or scary and not being able to stop), and reminding yourself that whatever you're experiencing is the result of a drug you took and will wear off in time is usually a very effective way to calm yourself down. IME, most trips people call bad trips were personally difficult trips that they were unwilling or unable to turn into something valuable.

In my experience, people who don't really enjoy the 'deeper' aspects of psychedelics call 'em bad trips, and people who do call them difficult trips. Not every trip is euphoria and silly thoughts and dancing rainbows - sometimes the trip takes a darker theme, or stirs up some personal emotional issues unexpectedly, or something bad or stressful happens in real life while you're tripping. Whether the resulting trip is 'bad' or just difficult/challenging is ultimately up to how you interpret it. I've had trips that were rather unpleasant for big chunks of the experience, but those have been some of my most valuable trips once I had time in the following days and weeks to reflect on what had happened. Most of the time, by the end of the trip I've developed some way of interpreting the experience as a positive.
 
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And, again, please stay out of tall buildings (even if you are with friends, that old "I can fly" adage, ain't a tale invented by "the Man"!!
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Hmmm. Anyone agree on this one? I usually trip on the 7th. floor. Never jumped out the window though
 
I've tripped before and hung out on high balconies, but never came close to thinking I could fly. I suppose I could imagine someone having that train of thought though. I always liked tripping in tall apartment buildings because I end up thinking "mankind builds these magnificent structures so I can eat drugs in them."
 
The air sometimes feels like water to me when I smoke and one time I embarrassingly swam around in it, but that is the closest I've come to feeling like I can fly besides dreams.
 
Try not to think of them as 'bad trips' but as a process of understanding. The night is darkest before the dawn.
 
bad trips are NOT possible :)

now go have fun

(just kidding, but kinda wish somebody had told me that and then just set me loose, haha)
 
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