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How important is diet in getting jacked while on testosterone replacement therapy
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nope fat loss is all about diet planks literally won't do anything
it takes a lot of effort to get that low and muscle loss is always going to happen when cutting, drugs reduce that loss ofc but its still definitely possible without
getting sub-10% is a different story, probably won't hit that without drugs
So planks wont help you get abs? Glad to know i ever wasted my time on any ab exercise then. Fuck ab exercises anyway
Im not to concerned about fat loss anyway. I wouldnt mind losing abit of fat on my gut but its not going to keep me up at night. m more concerned with getting stronger so im eating as much protein as possible
if you just want to see abs, weight loss is the way to go
if you want big juicy abs, just progress through increasing load like any other muscle
if you wanted big biceps would you hold a weight in your bent arm for long periods?
isometric sucks for hypertrophy
Ya i need to cut out all the dr.pepper and rice if i wanna see abs lol. I dont really care about abs but id like it if my stomach was flatter
time to switch to diet?
rice is great fuel for lifting tbh just keep it lean with minimum fat, healthy fats and saturated total probably 60-70g/day
more salt helps if I feel tired while getting enough calories
Diet just doesent do it for me. Dr.pepper zero is pretty decent but again maybe im addicted to the sugar lol
I eat alot of chicken and also burgers some days. Eggs to
body types aren't something backed up by the literature even though its a popular idea on YouTube
genetics and age do have an impact though
Wrong there are three body types and some that are a combo of Two. I know this well. I always wasted my athletic ability along with my inherent intelligence.
Am I bragging. No I am story of so much wasted potential.
Don't believe me fine, I don't care. Then why? I will give you a hint; I am on Bluelight. lol
Am I bragging. No I am story of so much wasted potential.
Don't believe me fine, I don't care. Then why? I will give you a hint; I am on Bluelight. lol
I have to agree to certain point and this is without having any knowledge of body types and so on as I'm talking from an early age. From pre school if you think about it, there was always the skinny kids that gets away with eaten alot more then most can, then the athletic type and then the easy gainers ( big guys ) and I mean this in no discriminating way. But it's a fact and later in life you learn about ecto, meso and endomorph mode types, which to me explain what I more or less saw growing up.
Oh and sidenote also knowing if you carb/insulin sensitive can also help and age but that plays more a role of natural test and recovery but if trt is involved. A good diet with a trt dose, you can keep some one at there above natural limit with a low bf%.
Just my 2cents.
Ah, Some people are just not physically gifted. Just like Einstein was smarter than...most people or actually very few or any were in his league when it came to physics and mathematics. We're there any smarter, depends on who is doing the comparisons and what they use for Criteria.
I bet you think anyone can be as fast as Usain Bolt in his prime.lol
Face it maybe you have nothing better to do but lift. However, and lot of people will not be able to achieve an incredible physique. I don't know or care what you look like, but you are not or ever could achieve the level of physical achievements as Jesse Owen's. what about other Olypic athletes?
Then again how many are compared to Einstein, in terms of intelligence?
Most people will never be as gifted with the guitar as Jimi Hendrix.
Can most people be as funny as Richard Pryor or George Carlin?
Genetics in terms of individuals, varies greatly.
When you talk about hypertrophy, are you aspiring to be one of those guys who shave their body, spend more time at the tanning salon than the whole cast of The Jersey Shore combined; if you are white, oil themselves up like they are at a Diddy party, and put on a bright neon colored banana hammock and pose flexing to win a trophy and meet similar guys?
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Diet is everything—whether you're on gear or not.
You should be eating 1 gram of protein per pound of your target body weight. So, if you’re 190 lbs and want to be 210, you need to hit 210g of protein per day.
Carbs are absolutely essential, especially within an hour of working out. Outside that window, avoid simple carbs. You have zero need for sugar in your diet.
In my experience, I like soda—so Diet Coke with freshly squeezed lemon or lime helped satisfy that craving without the sugar. But the substitutes should be in moderation, just becuase its with splenda does not mean you should reach for it.
Your carbs should come only from complex sources. I prefer fruit (not exactly complex non complex because of glucose, simple, in the morning and before workouts, I also throw them in my shakes, this should be your only sugar) . My mornigng is usally Bagel with double or triple egg, cheese and bacon. After working out, I usually eat a tuna salad mixed with pasta, lightly dressed with mayo, seasoned with a bit of salt and pepper, and sometimes other light seasonings—but never anything heavy. Lunch is whatever I can get. Dinner is always Chicken or Beef ( I eat steak 1 -2x a week) with a small amount of carbs, usally a cup of potatos or pasta (whole wheat best at dinner), and something green or a veggie, I like broccoli, peas, and carrots.
The foundation is this:
Also, take creatine.
Don’t bother with loading or any gimmicks—just take one shake a day. The benefits of creatine, even for non-lifters, are well-documented.
When in doubt - Eggs !!! scrambled with cheese and veggies, on toast, boiled, whatever. 4-6 a day depending on your targets(start remving yolk when you get higher). Also if your really underweight and want to gain alot, just go straight dirty bulk, like then even a trip to McDonalds is ok, and some ice cream in the protein shake, I've even made homemade protien infused rice krispie treats and had whole big bags of tostitos or dorritos with 6 oz. or more of cheese (combo of swiss, cheddar, and mozz all have ~7.5 per oz. then some pepper jack & munenster) melted on top but sugar is still your enemy even in a dirty bulk. Sugar is the highest cal per volume and NO nutritiuoin what so ever, zlich. Sugar, processed, is borderline a drug.
Now I mentioned Arnold never counted but he also had genetics. Its all up to you in the end, you have to experiment and listen to your body, see how it reacts. If you want low BF and abs, you may have to get strict you may not have to. I know one guy who counts his macros and his micros and looks great and then I know another who doesn't, and I've seen him with sweedsih fish in his hand at the gym and he's looks just as good aesthically.
Side note: above you guys were talkiong about abs... There is no way, absolutley none, you can work out your way to seeing them.. That is 1000% all Diet and your BF%, you need to be around 10%, sub ten, is swimsuit model. When it comes to training them, treat them like any other muscle group, I like going heavy for the main set that day, then I go for AMRAPs at the end. I can 't do them every day, becyase if you did them right you should feel it the next. But thats me, I know people who do them daily at the end or begining of their workout... Listen to your body, see what is working, yest there are some "staples" and "golden rules" like heavy for strength, 8-15 for hypertrophy, etc., but everyone is different in the end.
You should be eating 1 gram of protein per pound of your target body weight. So, if you’re 190 lbs and want to be 210, you need to hit 210g of protein per day.
Carbs are absolutely essential, especially within an hour of working out. Outside that window, avoid simple carbs. You have zero need for sugar in your diet.
In my experience, I like soda—so Diet Coke with freshly squeezed lemon or lime helped satisfy that craving without the sugar. But the substitutes should be in moderation, just becuase its with splenda does not mean you should reach for it.
Your carbs should come only from complex sources. I prefer fruit (not exactly complex non complex because of glucose, simple, in the morning and before workouts, I also throw them in my shakes, this should be your only sugar) . My mornigng is usally Bagel with double or triple egg, cheese and bacon. After working out, I usually eat a tuna salad mixed with pasta, lightly dressed with mayo, seasoned with a bit of salt and pepper, and sometimes other light seasonings—but never anything heavy. Lunch is whatever I can get. Dinner is always Chicken or Beef ( I eat steak 1 -2x a week) with a small amount of carbs, usally a cup of potatos or pasta (whole wheat best at dinner), and something green or a veggie, I like broccoli, peas, and carrots.
The foundation is this:
- 1g of protein per target body weight
- Then healthy fats
- Then complex carbs
Also, take creatine.
Don’t bother with loading or any gimmicks—just take one shake a day. The benefits of creatine, even for non-lifters, are well-documented.
When in doubt - Eggs !!! scrambled with cheese and veggies, on toast, boiled, whatever. 4-6 a day depending on your targets(start remving yolk when you get higher). Also if your really underweight and want to gain alot, just go straight dirty bulk, like then even a trip to McDonalds is ok, and some ice cream in the protein shake, I've even made homemade protien infused rice krispie treats and had whole big bags of tostitos or dorritos with 6 oz. or more of cheese (combo of swiss, cheddar, and mozz all have ~7.5 per oz. then some pepper jack & munenster) melted on top but sugar is still your enemy even in a dirty bulk. Sugar is the highest cal per volume and NO nutritiuoin what so ever, zlich. Sugar, processed, is borderline a drug.
Now I mentioned Arnold never counted but he also had genetics. Its all up to you in the end, you have to experiment and listen to your body, see how it reacts. If you want low BF and abs, you may have to get strict you may not have to. I know one guy who counts his macros and his micros and looks great and then I know another who doesn't, and I've seen him with sweedsih fish in his hand at the gym and he's looks just as good aesthically.
Side note: above you guys were talkiong about abs... There is no way, absolutley none, you can work out your way to seeing them.. That is 1000% all Diet and your BF%, you need to be around 10%, sub ten, is swimsuit model. When it comes to training them, treat them like any other muscle group, I like going heavy for the main set that day, then I go for AMRAPs at the end. I can 't do them every day, becyase if you did them right you should feel it the next. But thats me, I know people who do them daily at the end or begining of their workout... Listen to your body, see what is working, yest there are some "staples" and "golden rules" like heavy for strength, 8-15 for hypertrophy, etc., but everyone is different in the end.
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