None of this is advice it's just what helps me.
my withdrawal survival list:
1. kratom or loperamide.
2.dxm 12 hour liquid plain not cold/flu combo meds ( if on loperamide)
3. dramamine original formula ( if on loperamide)
4.milk of magnesia ( if on loperamide)
if I take kratom I mix red and yellow Bali.
Loperamide:
if I take loperamide I take milk of magnesia first, I let the milk of magnesia kick in then take loperamide starting at the box dose and going up every few hrs by 1 pill until the w/d stops (yes day 1 sucks).
On day 2-5 I automatically take whatever dose of lope I found to work on day 1. (usually 8-10 pills)
Starting day 6, I taper lope by 1 pill a day. I hold the taper if w/d gets too strong at any point; I stay at a given dose until I stabilize and then taper more. After 1 pill, I start tapering with liquid lope. Note: I would rather have diarrhea than constipation so I take daily milk of magnesia with the lope.
I also find that long acting DXM (on the label dose) helps with the mental side if I am taking loperamide.
Kratom:
for me, Kratom is far preferable to Lope and DXM. For one, it deals with pain whereas lope/dxm do not. For another, I don't have to take laxatives with kratom. Also, I find I don't need dxm with kratom.
My only advice for finding a kratom vendor is: look for one who offers free samples ( let them earn your trust).
I just pour the powder in water and drink ( with sugar and a few drops of lemon juice). Whenever I try a new vendor I try 1/4 tsp first. If in an hour, nothing adverse has happened I take more.
I try not to eat for at least 4 hours after I take kratom.
One other thing, Dramamine can help with sleep if i am taking lope/dxm and can't sleep, I will take on the label doses of Dramamine. Hope some of this helps you
my withdrawal survival list:
1. kratom or loperamide.
2.dxm 12 hour liquid plain not cold/flu combo meds ( if on loperamide)
3. dramamine original formula ( if on loperamide)
4.milk of magnesia ( if on loperamide)
if I take kratom I mix red and yellow Bali.
Loperamide:
if I take loperamide I take milk of magnesia first, I let the milk of magnesia kick in then take loperamide starting at the box dose and going up every few hrs by 1 pill until the w/d stops (yes day 1 sucks).
On day 2-5 I automatically take whatever dose of lope I found to work on day 1. (usually 8-10 pills)
Starting day 6, I taper lope by 1 pill a day. I hold the taper if w/d gets too strong at any point; I stay at a given dose until I stabilize and then taper more. After 1 pill, I start tapering with liquid lope. Note: I would rather have diarrhea than constipation so I take daily milk of magnesia with the lope.
I also find that long acting DXM (on the label dose) helps with the mental side if I am taking loperamide.
Kratom:
for me, Kratom is far preferable to Lope and DXM. For one, it deals with pain whereas lope/dxm do not. For another, I don't have to take laxatives with kratom. Also, I find I don't need dxm with kratom.
My only advice for finding a kratom vendor is: look for one who offers free samples ( let them earn your trust).
I just pour the powder in water and drink ( with sugar and a few drops of lemon juice). Whenever I try a new vendor I try 1/4 tsp first. If in an hour, nothing adverse has happened I take more.
I try not to eat for at least 4 hours after I take kratom.
One other thing, Dramamine can help with sleep if i am taking lope/dxm and can't sleep, I will take on the label doses of Dramamine. Hope some of this helps you