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Things like this make me jealous to be sober now ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

A kind of sadness that ill never get to try the new dissos and psychedelics that get pumped out, please let me know how FXipr was later?
I understand 100%. When I was sober I had to stop looking at the vendors pages. Sober or not I'm always going to be curious about what route the RC scene is taking and what new chemicals pop up. It's fascinating. But like I said, when I was sober I would have to stop looking at their pages and even had to drop or even severely limit my time on Bluelight. Would always have to go to The Dark Side and read some horror stories to remind me of why I'm getting sober. It can be tough but good on you for keeping on keeping on :)

Plenty of caffeine
1600mg Gabapentin
1 hit of weed (6%THC/7%CBD)
450mg Bupropion
50mg Spironolactone
50mg Hydroxyzine

Later:
5mg THC / 10mg CBD edible (actually gonna take half of that now and make dinner)
4mg Prazosin (will probably taper off soon due to annoying side effects)
Probably a few more hits of weed
50mg Hydroxyzine
1000mg Acetaminophen
 
I understand 100%. When I was sober I had to stop looking at the vendors pages. Sober or not I'm always going to be curious about what route the RC scene is taking and what new chemicals pop up. It's fascinating. But like I said, when I was sober I would have to stop looking at their pages and even had to drop or even severely limit my time on Bluelight. Would always have to go to The Dark Side and read some horror stories to remind me of why I'm getting sober. It can be tough but good on you for keeping on keeping on :)

Plenty of caffeine
1600mg Gabapentin
1 hit of weed (6%THC/7%CBD)
450mg Bupropion
50mg Spironolactone
50mg Hydroxyzine

Later:
5mg THC / 10mg CBD edible (actually gonna take half of that now and make dinner)
4mg Prazosin (will probably taper off soon due to annoying side effects)
Probably a few more hits of weed
50mg Hydroxyzine
1000mg Acetaminophen
Thank you bro, going on 5 years now. I keep telling myself โ€maybe one dayโ€ if I relapse ill have an โ€excuseโ€ to try all these new exotic and esoteric drugs. However its probably best not to think that way, I know where it will lead back to :/

Trying as many psychoactive compounds as possible just made the obsession grow more lol, at least I can tell myself that I made it to a little above 150 different substances tried and leave that chapter to my memories, I honestly dont know if id survive another year of using considering how hardcore I went during my โ€peakโ€

I live vicariously through others experiences though, so id be stoked if you were to post a trip report on how FXipr was ๐Ÿ˜›
 
Thank you bro, going on 5 years now. I keep telling myself โ€maybe one dayโ€ if I relapse ill have an โ€excuseโ€ to try all these new exotic and esoteric drugs. However its probably best not to think that way, I know where it will lead back to :/
It's great that you're conscious of your trains of thought. Playing the tape forward and playing out how it'd go always helps me. Drugs become unappealing when you know that in 6 months time you (or less for me last relapse) you'll have burned your life to the ground).

Trying as many psychoactive compounds as possible just made the obsession grow more lol, at least I can tell myself that I made it to a little above 150 different substances tried and leave that chapter to my memories, I honestly dont know if id survive another year of using considering how hardcore I went during my โ€peakโ€

I live vicariously through others experiences though, so id be stoked if you were to post a trip report on how FXipr was ๐Ÿ˜›
The obsession of trying as many compounds as possible is a real bastard. I don't know if I'll ever be rid of it, though as I'm getting older the selection of what I'm willing to put up with gets smaller and smaller. In my early 20
s or late teens? Sure, I'll go on a 5 day A-PVP bender. Why not? Now I don't wanna put up with the bullshit of the fiending and suicidal depression on the comedown and long recovery.

150 chemicals is a good place to land. I'm sure you've gotten a little bit of everything, so you know rough;y what everything does.

But yes, I've been meaning to write more trip reports but I always forgo it. Maybe I'll start trying more. I've been meaning to start practicing my writing and that's a good way to do it


I just took a hit of weed and that edible is kicking in. Time slipped past me, so I had to take my 4mg Prazosin and 7.5mg Mirtazapine to try and knock out. I need to find something better for sleep. I've become dependent upon it for sleep but I like the occasional psychedelic and hate having to taper something every time that I want to trip.
 
Man I haven't been around opium since I was in my hometown back in high school. People only ever ate it or smoked it though (assuming it was smoking grade, most wasn't). Super intense addicts would eat a chunk and not need a fix for over a day, it was wild. To insufflate it, I assume you've dessicated it and then powderized? How would you compare it to other RoAs?
The opium I get is already in powder form mixed with acetaminophen and prescribed. I take it for shoulder pain. I've had actual opium in Lao and that was a lovely dreamy smoke, but way more than a measly 20mg. I snort it because it definitely hits faster, but the best for bioavailability is probably orally, followed by smoking (not possible with these low strength and mixed up caps), followed by snorting.
 
Evening blueworld

Hope everyone had an awesome day.
Was 1st day of spring here.. loved it.

19:00
10mg methadone
5mg diazepam
600mg meprobamate
1350mg paracetamol
24mg codeine
0.05ml RSO Skittlzes
Tea and lots of it

Gonna catch up on some of series before final..

Edit: paracetamol dose was wrong and just took 0.375mg triazolam,

Night
 
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Took 36mg Methylphenidate ER and 225mg Bupropion SR earlier this morning. Not high, but I can still feel them.

Have also taken around 1600mg Gabapentin today and took another 75mg Bupropion SR without thinking around 6pm or so, so hopefully it doesn't keep me up much later. I wanna get out of bed tomorrow right after the mail gets here so that I can have as much time tomorrow enjoying the 3-me-PCP that I should be getting. Unfortunately I have one day weekends so I wont be able to binge into the night with it like I'd like. Was hoping that it'd come today so that I could do some tonight but I forgot about LAbor Day. I swear to god, every damn time I order something, there's some damn holiday that I forget about that delays my mail arriving by a day.

Currently getting some caffeine in me in the form of Zero Sugar Dr. Pepper Strawberries & Cream. Will have a 5mg THC / 10mg CBD gummy before too long and will start toking slowly here in just a minute.
 
Took 36mg Methylphenidate ER and 225mg Bupropion SR earlier this morning. Not high, but I can still feel them.

Have also taken around 1600mg Gabapentin today and took another 75mg Bupropion SR without thinking around 6pm or so, so hopefully it doesn't keep me up much later. I wanna get out of bed tomorrow right after the mail gets here so that I can have as much time tomorrow enjoying the 3-me-PCP that I should be getting. Unfortunately I have one day weekends so I wont be able to binge into the night with it like I'd like. Was hoping that it'd come today so that I could do some tonight but I forgot about LAbor Day. I swear to god, every damn time I order something, there's some damn holiday that I forget about that delays my mail arriving by a day.

Currently getting some caffeine in me in the form of Zero Sugar Dr. Pepper Strawberries & Cream. Will have a 5mg THC / 10mg CBD gummy before too long and will start toking slowly here in just a minute.
Maybe add an apple for good measure ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿคฃ
 
It's just pass 5 in the afternoon and I can say I'm nicely baked. Edibles and more RSO finally kicking in and is keep on giving lol. Had..

60mg thc toffee
0.1ml RSO Skittlzes
2 dab hits shatter of green crack ( on the house or when the one employee is there I always get to smoke some freebies In the lounge). All this about an hr ago and now feeling very happy and so mellowed out.

Still trying not to smoke, given the lungs a break and cause of that, those 2 dab hits smacked me. I had verbal diarrhea there and still do lol
 
150 chemicals is a good place to land. I'm sure you've gotten a little bit of everything, so you know rough;y what everything does.

But yes, I've been meaning to write more trip reports but I always forgo it. Maybe I'll start trying more. I've been meaning to start practicing my writing and that's a good way to do it
I'm also in the 150-200 total chemicals range so far, and while I'll continue to push it further it's less "what new RCs are on the market" and moreso "how can I experiment with structure-activity relationships in the lab" if that makes sense.
Have also taken around 1600mg Gabapentin today and took another 75mg Bupropion SR without thinking around 6pm or so, so hopefully it doesn't keep me up much later. I wanna get out of bed tomorrow right after the mail gets here so that I can have as much time tomorrow enjoying the 3-me-PCP that I should be getting. Unfortunately I have one day weekends so I wont be able to binge into the night with it like I'd like. Was hoping that it'd come today so that I could do some tonight but I forgot about LAbor Day. I swear to god, every damn time I order something, there's some damn holiday that I forget about that delays my mail arriving by a day.
I'm glad to hear you got your Ritalin! I've been on a work bender for a few days, hence my absence from BL. My MXPCP, 25E-NBOH and phenazolam are all arriving on Thursday, so that'll be exciting. I got out of college (and therefore had stable money to order things online with any amount of frequency) while covid was in full swing, so I suspect that maybe I just expect the postal system in the USA to always be both late and shitty at its job. The 25E-NBOH will need a fresh nasal sprayer, but I can't find any of even remotely decent build quality. Even if I just put 50 doses into a nasal sprayer, it'd need to hold up for a few years at least, and they all seem to leak but I value 25X-NBXX's so much that it makes me nervous to plop it right into some garbage sprayer. The phenazolam is also going to need to be diluted into lab grade ethanol, and then applied onto smarties for a 200ug dose, my last batches of MDMB-4en-PINACA blotter came out even enough but certainly not even enough for me to play games with something as potent as phenazolam. The etizolam blotter I did was a fucking tragedy, so I'm just filling a jar with (so far 60, but probably in total 500) of the large sized Smarties candies to apply the phenazolam to, the same way we used to do liquid alprazolam back in high school.

The MXPCP won't need any prep though so I'll likely be using that one the day it arrives, which I absolutely cannot wait for. I've seen varying doses for people ranging from 10-500mg, and I'm going to start wicked low and climb up, maybe cutting 3-4 20mg lines for the fiance and I to get a feel for this drug at first, and see if ordering more is worth it.
The opium I get is already in powder form mixed with acetaminophen and prescribed. I take it for shoulder pain. I've had actual opium in Lao and that was a lovely dreamy smoke, but way more than a measly 20mg. I snort it because it definitely hits faster, but the best for bioavailability is probably orally, followed by smoking (not possible with these low strength and mixed up caps), followed by snorting.
I have never heard of prescribed opium, that's absolutely fascinating. I appreciate the information on it here!
I mean gay marriage wasn't even legal until I had been out of high school for a few years, which is kind of crazy to thing about considering how "mainstream" being queer has gotten to be.
Yeah, whether it's mainstream or not existence is resistance when it comes to oppressed groups, so even if there were more resistance to my existence as a queer man, I'd simply be pulling more triggers on some unregistered shit, frankly. Dumbass homophobic rednecks in my high school often got rolled down flights of stairs repeatedly as a way to communicate "keep your hateful nonsense out of my community". It helped that I was rolling with a bunch of people who were also competent violence actors, and we always took photos of peoples' IDs after doing anything so that they knew we could roll up at their house if they wanted to escalate trouble any further. In retrospect, a therapist I used to see in college was right when he told me that I was "groomed to be a domestic terrorist, but was never aimed in any direction".
I had plenty of blotters of 25B-NBOMe 25C-NBOMe, it was very common in my area in 2009-2012 . Visuals on nbombs are crazy, yet I had HPPD for few months after overdosing on the liquid form... 30 hits, I was seeing purple, totally crazy went on a big hallucinatory paranoid trip where people could here my thoughts, needed buprenorphine to go down yeah. It was dangerous to sell and use too frankly, I remember one guy ended up lost on the river next to a night club and got find days later, naked, fighting against lasers .. he had 16 hits. It was on the news paper. People would sell it as mescaline. He was okay after but it took him a while to be fine. Dealers made a powder of it a mix 25b, 25c, 25i, one line would skyrocket you in a very long and colorful bliss, it was too dangerous, it went dry quick.
Man I wish I existed in a time where 25X-NBXX's were abundant, I have an insanely difficult time coming across them and when I do the prices are usually pretty high, but alongside salvia and PCP analogs they're some of my all time favorite drugs. Most lab analyses of NBXX blotter found them to be mixed, usually B & I, C & I, or C & E iirc. The most I've ever taken was 9 tabs of (they got mixed so I can't distinguish them) 200ug 25I-NBOMe or 400ug 25B-NBOH. It was easily one of the most beautiful trips I've ever had as far as visuals go. Selling 25X-NBXX as mescaline is some real "throw your dealer off a cliff" type shit, I was once sold a sheet of "acid" that was actually 25C-NBOMe and I rolled up on that fool the next day to get my money back. I can't imagine insufflating crystal NBOMes, that seems exceptionally dangerous, but I'm also recently struggling to find a reliable nasal sprayer that can hold up for a couple years, so I may end up using an amber glass dropper vial that I can just drip down my nostrils while I hang my head upside down off a mattress or couch. Vaping the 25E-NBOH I have coming in may also be the better RoA, idrk yet. Have you ever vaporized any 25X-NBXX compounds, or known of others to do it? I've been considering infusing some cannabis with 25E-NBOH as an experiment, or dropping 200ug in lab grade ethanol on a small sugar pill like a small Smarties candy, crushing that and insufflating it to be sure I'm not getting any more than 200ug in the full line.
Around that time a lot of 2C-E and purple MDE was around, let me tell you MDE was really incredible, 300mg would couch lock you hugging the floor the jaws upside down and crazy visuals. Close to opiates in terms of euphoria, but still sweating a lot and tense jaws and constant yawning. Pure euphoria with crazy visuals like the world is fading around you cant see shit your eyes are moving all over the place.
Also the visuals I had on MDE + Ket were just out this world, we used to rack huge lines of both mixed, I'd instantly time travel back in all reverse, changing things in the past and come back like woaw. Added Cocaine and very good weed at a good tekno free party on top was godlike. The visual and auditory distorsions were insane, and time dilation even more pronounced. Damn I miss MDE for sure. Would have inject it gladly.
Pretty much every MDXX and 2C-X are on my bucket list to try, and MDE seems so incredibly unique based on trip reports. The info here is super valuable to me, how would you compare/contrast MDE to MDA, MDMA, or any other empathogens you've used?
I'm sure taking a dab of it would be pretty swell.
If you go to do this, use a nectar collector or a dab nail you don't care about because it's wicked easy to chazz out a banger with how finicky this shit vaporizes. It feels amazing, but I found the best way to use it was to dissolve it in everclear, then infuse that everclear into cannabis and smoke that, or just roll a little skinny worm-shaped line of lotus opium, and then put that in the middle of a blunt. When doing that (the same way you would with shatter or rosin for example), lighting it with a torch like a dab causes the lotus opium to vaporize at the same speed as the cannabis and blunt wrap, whereas otherwise it would take longer and cause a serious fire hazard.
I'm hoping that I'll be able to better control myself this time around. I'm trying to tell myself that a gram of 3-me-PCP can last me a pretty long time if I don't fall into daily use. Gotta at least keep it to my days off and ideally not do dissociatives every weekend. gonna try best. Unfortunately the replacement base for my time lock safe isnt gonna be here for another 2 weeks or so, so I'm gonna have to really test my willpower until then when the 3-me arrives.
Is the time-lock safe to combat impulsive use? I personally pre-plan trips, labelling little baggies with the day I'll be using something, and then I get even more pleasure from the excitement leading up to it and the experience itself when compared to just compulsively binging the fuck out of things. It also helps me to plan around psychedelics' tolerance, for me the most compulsive drugs aren't sedatives, dissos or stimulants but psychedelics. If acid had no tolerance I'd be eating a tenstrip daily at a minimum, goddamn do I love psychedelics. To not be wasteful with them though, I pre-plan drug use to work around things like tolerance and work scheduling, and also to plan ahead for holidays, parties, etc.

Not sure if pre-planning would work better than a time-locked safe for you specifically, but for me the excitement of pre-planned experiences makes it super easy to wait for the planned date for me personally. This also helps me work out what I refer to as "healthy drug use schedules", which are obviously up for a lot of debate, but for me it's an NMDA antagonist every other week, psychedelics every 3-21 days depending on the tolerances induced (mushrooms have a 3 day tolerance, NBOMes have a 21 day tolerance, LSD has a 10 day tolerance, mescaline has a 7 day tolerance, etc.), then I usually use stimulants 2-3 out of seven days, sedatives at the same rate as stimulants, nitrous only once a month or less since I have B12 malabsorption, and my dailies are cannabis, kratom, caffeine, and occasionally noopept.
Oh I see. I just assumed it was blotter with the way it was typed out. It's a shame that the etizolam blotter came out uneven. I used to be able to dissolve Etizolam in PG before. Not good for blotters but I was able to fully dissolve it and my vials came out reliably every time. Just took a bit of exercise
I'll actually be putting 200ug drops dissolved in lab grade ethanol onto the larger sized Smarties candies (the ones roughly the size of Necco wafers), going to dose about 100 of these, and my current "healthy drug use scheduling system thing" (whatever tf I end up calling it) will have me using at most 1mg 2 days a week, not 3 days a week because the duration is insane, and likely sticking to the 400-800ug range because exceeding 1mg in the past was so overwhelmingly euphoric I was convinced I was experiencing a full body orgasm for hours straight and it was genuinely kind of concerning how good it felt, not as in "I'll compulsively redose this" but as in "how in the hell does anything possibly feel this good, I should probably take less next time because this feels like it shouldn't be a state I reasonably should be experiencing as a mortal being".
I don't know if it was ever confirmed but it was the consensus back when The only deaths involving MXE were due to combining serotonin releasers with it iirc. I knew someone who would take it with MDMA but save it for after the MDMA peak and in conservative doses. They spoke highly of it.
This is very valuable information, ty for this! I've mixed MDMA, MDA and 5-APB with almost every dissociative that I've ever used and only 2-FXE/CanKet and 2F-DCK ever felt like they potentiated the empathogen in any way, but 3-HO-PCP did make 5-APB last for maybe a day and a half once which was super unexpected. No redosing either, it was easily the longest and most exhausting (though still quite worthwhile) roll of my life so far. I'll keep it low with the doses mixing MXPCP with monoamine releasers at first to feel it out, I've run into serotonin syndrome twice and it was from mixing ayahuasca with hawaiian baby woodrose seeds both times, and both times I was remedied by drinking a fifth of liquor and vibing it out for a little while, I'm just grateful my best friend found me in that state, handed me the bottle and was like "drink this right now".
Phenazepam, I didn't really feel much, which led to me taking more and more but never "feeling" anything. It was my first time with a benzo so I didn't know what to look for. Looking back I can tell through how I acted that my anxiety was indeed lowered, but I never felt fucked up. Luckily never blacked out even though it was powder. From what I remember it was very boring
I've only tried phenazolam once so far (never came across phenazepam as far as I'm aware), at a 500ug and 1mg dose taken about 10 or so hours apart, and the euphoria was unironically superior to a high dose of MDA/MDMA, it was fucking unbelievable. This candy jar I'm filling with phenazolam smarties is about to be a jar of happy pills or some shit, I swear. I'm glad I seem to be rather impervious to addictivity because otherwise phenazolam would absolutely ruin my lief hahaha.

OT: 300mg of Bupropion, 200mg of caffeine, some vaporized MDMB-4en-PINACA and soon some lines of fladrafinil have my night going well. Drank a little bit of etizolam in a tropical Sprite earlier, and dabbed an agar tablet of a 25X-NBXX last night which was quite interesting but kind of a waste compared to traditional sublingual administration. Keeping my psychedelic tolerance low for Mabon later this month, still deciding on exactly what I'll use then but maybe MXPCP and Metocin? Idk, I need to work out the ritual magic side of it still (altar, incantations, etc.).
 
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I'm also in the 150-200 total chemicals range so far, and while I'll continue to push it further it's less "what new RCs are on the market" and moreso "how can I experiment with structure-activity relationships in the lab" if that makes sense.
I'm at around the 130 mark last time I counted. Slowly catching up

In retrospect, a therapist I used to see in college was right when he told me that I was "groomed to be a domestic terrorist, but was never aimed in any direction".
That's a hilarious anecdote :ROFLMAO: I'd wear that as a badge of honor

Have you ever vaporized any 25X-NBXX compounds, or known of others to do it?
I've vaped 25i-NBOMe in my youth with some success. I just did the ole' aluminum foil thing but I imagine basically any other method of vaporization would be better

so I may end up using an amber glass dropper vial that I can just drip down my nostrils while I hang my head upside down off a mattress or couch.
That's how I always dosed NBOMe's in the past. Take the powder, turn it into a solution and drip it down mine and my friends sinuses

Is the time-lock safe to combat impulsive use? I personally pre-plan trips, labelling little baggies with the day I'll be using something, and then I get even more pleasure from the excitement leading up to it and the experience itself when compared to just compulsively binging the fuck out of things. It also helps me to plan around psychedelics' tolerance, for me the most compulsive drugs aren't sedatives, dissos or stimulants but psychedelics. If acid had no tolerance I'd be eating a tenstrip daily at a minimum, goddamn do I love psychedelics. To not be wasteful with them though, I pre-plan drug use to work around things like tolerance and work scheduling, and also to plan ahead for holidays, parties, etc.

Not sure if pre-planning would work better than a time-locked safe for you specifically, but for me the excitement of pre-planned experiences makes it super easy to wait for the planned date for me personally. This also helps me work out what I refer to as "healthy drug use schedules", which are obviously up for a lot of debate, but for me it's an NMDA antagonist every other week, psychedelics every 3-21 days depending on the tolerances induced (mushrooms have a 3 day tolerance, NBOMes have a 21 day tolerance, LSD has a 10 day tolerance, mescaline has a 7 day tolerance, etc.), then I usually use stimulants 2-3 out of seven days, sedatives at the same rate as stimulants, nitrous only once a month or less since I have B12 malabsorption, and my dailies are cannabis, kratom, caffeine, and occasionally noopept.
I've always had a VERY hard time keeping any drugs around for any considerable amount of time (except psychedelics) without using them impulsively. I've gotten better after going through the ringer a few times and having to do multiple medically supervised detoxes and rehabs. I can now keep benzos and empathogens around without using them through impulse, but there are a few classes that I still struggle with; namely dissociatives and stimulants and possibly also opioids. The time lock safe is just an extra measure to make sure that I follow through with the rules I've set forth with myself. I think that my need to use dissociatives constantly will go down now that my ADD is being treated. I also just started an excel sheet the other day cataloguing my daily drug and medicine in take. Started to do the same with food because I've been gaining weight rapidly. So I'm tracking every calorie going into my body and every milligram of drugs as well. Sseeing the numbers in front of me help me realize how much I WAS using/eating and bringing those number down to something more reasonable.

This is very valuable information, ty for this! I've mixed MDMA, MDA and 5-APB with almost every dissociative that I've ever used and only 2-FXE/CanKet and 2F-DCK ever felt like they potentiated the empathogen in any way, but 3-HO-PCP did make 5-APB last for maybe a day and a half once which was super unexpected. No redosing either, it was easily the longest and most exhausting (though still quite worthwhile) roll of my life so far. I'll keep it low with the doses mixing MXPCP with monoamine releasers at first to feel it out, I've run into serotonin syndrome twice and it was from mixing ayahuasca with hawaiian baby woodrose seeds both times, and both times I was remedied by drinking a fifth of liquor and vibing it out for a little while, I'm just grateful my best friend found me in that state, handed me the bottle and was like "drink this right now".
I've experienced serotonin syndrome more times than I'd care for. What purpose does alcohol serve in treating serotonin syndrome? I've only ever kept things in check with ice packs and hydration and making sure to use the restroom.


I've only tried phenazolam once so far (never came across phenazepam as far as I'm aware), at a 500ug and 1mg dose taken about 10 or so hours apart, and the euphoria was unironically superior to a high dose of MDA/MDMA, it was fucking unbelievable. This candy jar I'm filling with phenazolam smarties is about to be a jar of happy pills or some shit, I swear. I'm glad I seem to be rather impervious to addictivity because otherwise phenazolam would absolutely ruin my lief hahaha.
Well shiet, I might have to pick up some phenazolam while it's available. Have you been able to determine how long the effects last?

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Took a total of 31mg of 3-me-PCP throughout the day so I'm riding that out
Just took 2mg Prazosin
About to smoke a lil weed then maybe take some mirtazapine to knock out
 
I've experienced serotonin syndrome more times than I'd care for. What purpose does alcohol serve in treating serotonin syndrome? I've only ever kept things in check with ice packs and hydration and making sure to use the restroom.
GABAergics can help mitigate the symptoms, if we had benzos on hand that would've been the go-to but instead I had backup bottles of liquor stashed in the kitchen because I knew that I'd eventually need them.

Btw, how would you characterize 3-Me-PCP? People always talk about the mania/stimulation, but rarely go into detail as to the characteristics of that mania/stimulation and it seems absolutely fascinating imo.

Also, now that you're keeping data on drug intake (I do the same thing on and off) as well as food, how does it lead you to want to intentionally structure drug/food intake? I also need to start logging exercise, sleep, progress musically/skating, and progress writing really but I've been slowly winning a ~7 year battle with pretty intense depression, so I'm not trying to rush it but just take things one step at a time I suppose. You and I seem to be rather similar people so I'm curious about how you find yourself best recording these data points, as well as what you gather from them as far as changes you make in your life.
 
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Man I wish I existed in a time where 25X-NBXX's were abundant, I have an insanely difficult time coming across them and when I do the prices are usually pretty high, but alongside salvia and PCP analogs they're some of my all time favorite drugs. Most lab analyses of NBXX blotter found them to be mixed, usually B & I, C & I, or C & E iirc. The most I've ever taken was 9 tabs of (they got mixed so I can't distinguish them) 200ug 25I-NBOMe or 400ug 25B-NBOH. It was easily one of the most beautiful trips I've ever had as far as visuals go. Selling 25X-NBXX as mescaline is some real "throw your dealer off a cliff" type shit, I was once sold a sheet of "acid" that was actually 25C-NBOMe and I rolled up on that fool the next day to get my money back. I can't imagine insufflating crystal NBOMes, that seems exceptionally dangerous, but I'm also recently struggling to find a reliable nasal sprayer that can hold up for a couple years, so I may end up using an amber glass dropper vial that I can just drip down my nostrils while I hang my head upside down off a mattress or couch. Vaping the 25E-NBOH I have coming in may also be the better RoA, idrk yet. Have you ever vaporized any 25X-NBXX compounds, or known of others to do it? I've been considering infusing some cannabis with 25E-NBOH as an experiment, or dropping 200ug in lab grade ethanol on a small sugar pill like a small Smarties candy, crushing that and insufflating it to be sure I'm not getting any more than 200ug in the full line.
I never vaporized any . Vials, powder, blotters yeah it was quite abundant in that area I was at the time (2012), then few years later it became dry quick prices went up but still cheap, I could get a few sheets of a mix of 25B and 25C it was very interesting but you had to keep the tab in your mouth to have the real effects somehow. And for me it was never the same after that 30 hits thing.
About snorting the mix I described, it was cut with some non active powder (probably done by dropping solution on it, like you mentioned), all tainted in pink (the tuci before the tuci lol), it was well dosed, well mixed, I must say because you could actually make lines but damn that shit had such a rush. We had great laughs on it. Frankly at the time a lot of it ended up in the hands of wrong people that's why it had such bad press too.
Now that I think about it, ketamine infused with 25C and 25B would have been great... Too bad that the big drought was around that time.
Pretty much every MDXX and 2C-X are on my bucket list to try, and MDE seems so incredibly unique based on trip reports. The info here is super valuable to me, how would you compare/contrast MDE to MDA, MDMA, or any other empathogens you've used?

Yeah so MDE compare to MDMA is a lot slower, less rushy in the first glance, felt less potent, feels more like a downer. But damn once you hit that 300mg and plus (orally), it was a totally different ball game, almost psychedelic, narcotic, visuals, sound, euphoria and even sleep ! or some kind of nap I guess. It was the psychedelic smack of the MDxx if you wish. It felt good to vaporize it too. We were lucky we had this amazing connect that could supply MDE for a few years, I can't remember (it was a long time ago) if they made MDA too but probably. I just remember MDE as the best. We had it dirt cheap and would eat handfuls of it, we were young but damn it was something . I got the taste and smell of it now that I speak about it. I moved quite a bit of MDMA and such after all of this but never found MDE again, or purple MDMA.
I injected an insane amount of MDMA crystals, xtc pills in my last moments of that practice. I am years sober from it.
At some point I had 2C-B pills supply also. I really enjoyed that molecule and I heard it is great injected too. Orally, nasally, it's smooth it's like light MDMA like euphoria/boost/mood while having the cool visuals of NBOMEs in my opinion. Felt less hard on the body somehow than other stuff. No comedown whatsoever. It mixes very well with ketamine, speed and weed. I was mad when few dozens pills got washed in the washing machine by mistake.

Well I am glad some of the info is valuable to you, I could go on about those molecules for a while!


OT :
7-8 g Green kratom
6mg bromazepam
Kush and food
2mg clonazepam
10mg methylphenidate XR
 
Well I am glad some of the info is valuable to you, I could go on about those molecules for a while!
Whether on a thread (I could start one just for this if you wanted) or in private DMs, I'd love to hear as much info as possible about MDE as well as any 25X-NBXX's. They're tragically underdocumented and 25X-NBXX compounds are some of the most useful, "mystical" feeling compounds I've ever come across in my entire life. I just recently found a supplier for 25E-NBOH, and a foreign supplier that might be able to get 25C-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe my way but the prices are insane. I'm very curious as to what the best way to safely dose 25E-NBOH into something I can do a line of would be, the best I've come up with so far is volumetric liquid dilution in lab grade ethanol, followed by dropping it onto a small sugar candy like I mentioned above, but that's going to hurt like hell to insufflate. My scale is accurate down to 7-10mg, but I really don't know how much I trust mixing that with something inert and just hoping that I don't sniff up some sort of hotspot.
 
I'm also in the 150-200 total chemicals range so far, and while I'll continue to push it further it's less "what new RCs are on the market" and moreso "how can I experiment with structure-activity relationships in the lab" if that makes sense.

I'm glad to hear you got your Ritalin! I've been on a work bender for a few days, hence my absence from BL. My MXPCP, 25E-NBOH and phenazolam are all arriving on Thursday, so that'll be exciting. I got out of college (and therefore had stable money to order things online with any amount of frequency) while covid was in full swing, so I suspect that maybe I just expect the postal system in the USA to always be both late and shitty at its job. The 25E-NBOH will need a fresh nasal sprayer, but I can't find any of even remotely decent build quality. Even if I just put 50 doses into a nasal sprayer, it'd need to hold up for a few years at least, and they all seem to leak but I value 25X-NBXX's so much that it makes me nervous to plop it right into some garbage sprayer. The phenazolam is also going to need to be diluted into lab grade ethanol, and then applied onto smarties for a 200ug dose, my last batches of MDMB-4en-PINACA blotter came out even enough but certainly not even enough for me to play games with something as potent as phenazolam. The etizolam blotter I did was a fucking tragedy, so I'm just filling a jar with (so far 60, but probably in total 500) of the large sized Smarties candies to apply the phenazolam to, the same way we used to do liquid alprazolam back in high school.

The MXPCP won't need any prep though so I'll likely be using that one the day it arrives, which I absolutely cannot wait for. I've seen varying doses for people ranging from 10-500mg, and I'm going to start wicked low and climb up, maybe cutting 3-4 20mg lines for the fiance and I to get a feel for this drug at first, and see if ordering more is worth it.

I have never heard of prescribed opium, that's absolutely fascinating. I appreciate the information on it here!

Yeah, whether it's mainstream or not existence is resistance when it comes to oppressed groups, so even if there were more resistance to my existence as a queer man, I'd simply be pulling more triggers on some unregistered shit, frankly. Dumbass homophobic rednecks in my high school often got rolled down flights of stairs repeatedly as a way to communicate "keep your hateful nonsense out of my community". It helped that I was rolling with a bunch of people who were also competent violence actors, and we always took photos of peoples' IDs after doing anything so that they knew we could roll up at their house if they wanted to escalate trouble any further. In retrospect, a therapist I used to see in college was right when he told me that I was "groomed to be a domestic terrorist, but was never aimed in any direction".

Man I wish I existed in a time where 25X-NBXX's were abundant, I have an insanely difficult time coming across them and when I do the prices are usually pretty high, but alongside salvia and PCP analogs they're some of my all time favorite drugs. Most lab analyses of NBXX blotter found them to be mixed, usually B & I, C & I, or C & E iirc. The most I've ever taken was 9 tabs of (they got mixed so I can't distinguish them) 200ug 25I-NBOMe or 400ug 25B-NBOH. It was easily one of the most beautiful trips I've ever had as far as visuals go. Selling 25X-NBXX as mescaline is some real "throw your dealer off a cliff" type shit, I was once sold a sheet of "acid" that was actually 25C-NBOMe and I rolled up on that fool the next day to get my money back. I can't imagine insufflating crystal NBOMes, that seems exceptionally dangerous, but I'm also recently struggling to find a reliable nasal sprayer that can hold up for a couple years, so I may end up using an amber glass dropper vial that I can just drip down my nostrils while I hang my head upside down off a mattress or couch. Vaping the 25E-NBOH I have coming in may also be the better RoA, idrk yet. Have you ever vaporized any 25X-NBXX compounds, or known of others to do it? I've been considering infusing some cannabis with 25E-NBOH as an experiment, or dropping 200ug in lab grade ethanol on a small sugar pill like a small Smarties candy, crushing that and insufflating it to be sure I'm not getting any more than 200ug in the full line.

Pretty much every MDXX and 2C-X are on my bucket list to try, and MDE seems so incredibly unique based on trip reports. The info here is super valuable to me, how would you compare/contrast MDE to MDA, MDMA, or any other empathogens you've used?

If you go to do this, use a nectar collector or a dab nail you don't care about because it's wicked easy to chazz out a banger with how finicky this shit vaporizes. It feels amazing, but I found the best way to use it was to dissolve it in everclear, then infuse that everclear into cannabis and smoke that, or just roll a little skinny worm-shaped line of lotus opium, and then put that in the middle of a blunt. When doing that (the same way you would with shatter or rosin for example), lighting it with a torch like a dab causes the lotus opium to vaporize at the same speed as the cannabis and blunt wrap, whereas otherwise it would take longer and cause a serious fire hazard.

Is the time-lock safe to combat impulsive use? I personally pre-plan trips, labelling little baggies with the day I'll be using something, and then I get even more pleasure from the excitement leading up to it and the experience itself when compared to just compulsively binging the fuck out of things. It also helps me to plan around psychedelics' tolerance, for me the most compulsive drugs aren't sedatives, dissos or stimulants but psychedelics. If acid had no tolerance I'd be eating a tenstrip daily at a minimum, goddamn do I love psychedelics. To not be wasteful with them though, I pre-plan drug use to work around things like tolerance and work scheduling, and also to plan ahead for holidays, parties, etc.

Not sure if pre-planning would work better than a time-locked safe for you specifically, but for me the excitement of pre-planned experiences makes it super easy to wait for the planned date for me personally. This also helps me work out what I refer to as "healthy drug use schedules", which are obviously up for a lot of debate, but for me it's an NMDA antagonist every other week, psychedelics every 3-21 days depending on the tolerances induced (mushrooms have a 3 day tolerance, NBOMes have a 21 day tolerance, LSD has a 10 day tolerance, mescaline has a 7 day tolerance, etc.), then I usually use stimulants 2-3 out of seven days, sedatives at the same rate as stimulants, nitrous only once a month or less since I have B12 malabsorption, and my dailies are cannabis, kratom, caffeine, and occasionally noopept.

I'll actually be putting 200ug drops dissolved in lab grade ethanol onto the larger sized Smarties candies (the ones roughly the size of Necco wafers), going to dose about 100 of these, and my current "healthy drug use scheduling system thing" (whatever tf I end up calling it) will have me using at most 1mg 2 days a week, not 3 days a week because the duration is insane, and likely sticking to the 400-800ug range because exceeding 1mg in the past was so overwhelmingly euphoric I was convinced I was experiencing a full body orgasm for hours straight and it was genuinely kind of concerning how good it felt, not as in "I'll compulsively redose this" but as in "how in the hell does anything possibly feel this good, I should probably take less next time because this feels like it shouldn't be a state I reasonably should be experiencing as a mortal being".

This is very valuable information, ty for this! I've mixed MDMA, MDA and 5-APB with almost every dissociative that I've ever used and only 2-FXE/CanKet and 2F-DCK ever felt like they potentiated the empathogen in any way, but 3-HO-PCP did make 5-APB last for maybe a day and a half once which was super unexpected. No redosing either, it was easily the longest and most exhausting (though still quite worthwhile) roll of my life so far. I'll keep it low with the doses mixing MXPCP with monoamine releasers at first to feel it out, I've run into serotonin syndrome twice and it was from mixing ayahuasca with hawaiian baby woodrose seeds both times, and both times I was remedied by drinking a fifth of liquor and vibing it out for a little while, I'm just grateful my best friend found me in that state, handed me the bottle and was like "drink this right now".

I've only tried phenazolam once so far (never came across phenazepam as far as I'm aware), at a 500ug and 1mg dose taken about 10 or so hours apart, and the euphoria was unironically superior to a high dose of MDA/MDMA, it was fucking unbelievable. This candy jar I'm filling with phenazolam smarties is about to be a jar of happy pills or some shit, I swear. I'm glad I seem to be rather impervious to addictivity because otherwise phenazolam would absolutely ruin my lief hahaha.

OT: 300mg of Bupropion, 200mg of caffeine, some vaporized MDMB-4en-PINACA and soon some lines of fladrafinil have my night going well. Drank a little bit of etizolam in a tropical Sprite earlier, and dabbed an agar tablet of a 25X-NBXX last night which was quite interesting but kind of a waste compared to traditional sublingual administration. Keeping my psychedelic tolerance low for Mabon later this month, still deciding on exactly what I'll use then but maybe MXPCP and Metocin? Idk, I need to work out the ritual magic side of it still (altar, incantations, etc.).
Lol got a lot of question for the future but let's wait, eager foe you too.. ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
Whether on a thread (I could start one just for this if you wanted) or in private DMs, I'd love to hear as much info as possible about MDE as well as any 25X-NBXX's. They're tragically underdocumented and 25X-NBXX compounds are some of the most useful, "mystical" feeling compounds I've ever come across in my entire life. I just recently found a supplier for 25E-NBOH, and a foreign supplier that might be able to get 25C-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe my way but the prices are insane. I'm very curious as to what the best way to safely dose 25E-NBOH into something I can do a line of would be, the best I've come up with so far is volumetric liquid dilution in lab grade ethanol, followed by dropping it onto a small sugar candy like I mentioned above, but that's going to hurt like hell to insufflate. My scale is accurate down to 7-10mg, but I really don't know how much I trust mixing that with something inert and just hoping that I don't sniff up some sort of hotspot

I must stress that I don't have any of the exact dosage of that mix of 25B, 25C, 25I, and now that I see that 25E is out there too I wonder if it was 2C-E or actual 25E that would make more sense. I am pretty sure there was no 2C-E in there as they already had crystal 2C-E on the side. The first vials they gave us they told us 4 drops is light and 8 drops is good. 4 was light indeed and 8 wooosh damn it. It was slow to come up but when it was there !

I wrote stuff of that times, I can look. I can talk about the 30 hit event.

The sheets I got later, yes I can find the dosage and ID the blotters there were 600 microns of 25B and 800 microns of 25C. Mystical substance indeed I had very memorable mystical call on it. I wrote a trip report. I was surprised people online seem not liking it too much, only few people that are already experienced in psychedelics. Sadly I am not good at describing trips very well. But the realization at the end of that trip was correct and many years later I would end up, not easily, very far from the place I really wanted to quit.

For MDE I got a friend that can bring information too, that's the only one I can reach of that time. We often still speak about it.

If you want to do DM first ? so we see if you think it is worth a thread ! My English is a bit limited ...
 
Well with all I already had today I added

8mg codeine
200mg meprobamate
450mg paracetamol
0.1ml RSO Skittlzes
0.5g triangle kush flower in my vape pen
20mg thc toffee

Hope to maybe have an hr nap just now lol
 
I added pregabaline and oxazepam - 450 mg and 10mg
some kratom few grams
A beer and a joint
Feeling focused and ready
 
Do you get anything from oxazepam, for me it's the shittest prescribed benzo. Does nothing for me..
Yeah especially at over 50mg

I just use it instead of diazepam sometimes.

OT:
6-7g green kratom
10mg diazepam
Food
Sativa
Kush
5g red kratom

I think I am actually sleepy ... see where this other joint gets me.

edit:
added 1,5mg alprazolam
50mg hydroxyzine
150mg pregabaline
Kush
More red kratom
Kush
A 5 percent 50 cl beer
 
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