🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 How High Are You? V. The Height of Sophistication
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Coffee's - 6
Cigarettes - 23
Sertraline 200mg
Morphine 240mg
Gabapentin 4100mg
Depakote 800mg
Cyclizine 100mg
Coffee's - 6
Cigarettes - 23
Sertraline 200mg
Morphine 240mg
Gabapentin 4100mg
Depakote 800mg
Cyclizine 100mg
ChemicallyEnhanced
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Up to 300mg Morphine...nice, but should really stop now, don't wanna use it all up too quickly
Is the Cyclizine there for its opioid potentiating factors?
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Yeah, I blagged my way to a prescription for it after reading about it in Trainspotting, lol. It actually does work pretty well, plus helps with itching.
Mushoku_Sensei
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That's not even available with rx here! Would hydroxyzine, Cetirizin or something similar also work?
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I think Hydroxyzine might because it's also a prescription-only sedating anti-histamine, but I've not tried it, though.
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Just took one of them marijuana dabs which is out of character for me so I have no tolerance. Also had some commercial Kava packet of unknown but weak strength. We'll see how this goes
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After a rather bad night sweating and unable to sleep properly I caved in and took 200 mg Tapentadol after work (and should have stayed at that dose yesterday to begin with 
)... Hope it's going well take the pain out of my bones eventually...
)... Hope it's going well take the pain out of my bones eventually...
Hydroxyzine even on its own has proven to feel shockingly similar to Soma in large doses, but I have no idea if that range is safe (200-225mg for me at 225 lbs).
How did you like the dab and kava? I often find that those without a cnanabis tolerance kind of get wollopped by dabs.
On the topic of the thread: today I've taken 300mg of DXM, smoked some HHC and MDMB-4en-PINACA, and hit my etizolam box mod a few times. I suspect I either vaped a hotspot or had a tolerance in the past, because my oh my did that vape hit. Some kratom is brewing, if I wasn't nervous about potential enzymatic reactions I'd potentiate it with cimetidine, but THC-O tincture may have to suffice today.
Mushoku_Sensei
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Wow!! I don't even know what soma is like because I didn't come across it anywhere here, like kava as well.. But I'm DEFINITELY getting some hydroxyzine like asap, LoL
Enjoy your cocktail and hope it's going well!
It's 400 mg Tapentadol for me by now and 100 mg I tried boifing lost to it's irresistible laxative effect
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Fragged for over just over 40 hours on the last of me caffiene and taurine powder drink, no sodding diazapaem left, or rum or cocaine until thursday(hopefully my supplier will be in stock) and hopefully my olazapine script will be ready in the day Vs sophisitication level of a rather large and discomforting hemariod unfortunatly until i get my stock of gear then ill be the height of sophisitication and grace.
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Does it really? I haven't pushed it over 100mg but it is my favorite antihistamine followed closely by mirtazapine. It is kinda strange how effective Hydroxyzine is for anxiety. I do not getthe same benefit from diphenhydramine so I wonder if there's some other mechanism of action at play
It went well considering. I have found lately that the stone provided by dabs or a dab pen isn't as likely to freak me out as say a few hits of some unknown hybrid flower. Don't know if the terpenes in the flower increase my anxiety or what but concentrates are a little bit easier for me to handle these days.
The kava wasn't too noticeable but it was present and it probably did help me handle the dab better than I might have otherwise.
Have you mixed kratom with DXM before? I never have but to me it seems like it'd be unpleasant. I'm sure that a benzo helps round it out though
Yeah, like I said I'm unsure as to the safety profile for really pushing it with hydroxyzine, but it seems to be a different drug ~125-150mg, then again ~225mg for some reason. It almost exhibits "plateaus", I'd be still exploring it if I hadn't munched my way through the entire supply haha. I'm not prescribed it, but came into possession of a series of loose fistfuls of it. Hydroxyzine is also fantastic at potentiating benzos and opioids, but yet again, I have absolutely no idea as to how safe it is in that context. I used to mix hydroxyzine with the "etizolean" I made out of etizolam and corn syrup, that was absolutely blissful.
I've often found concentrates to produce a more reliably consistent experience, also with less sedation and an easier time focusing on things. Aiming the cannabis induced hyperfocus has always been a challenge with flower, but not with concentrates thankfully. Do you have a preference as far as rosin, hash, diamonds, shatter, etc.? I personally miss white diamonds and live rosin that were available on the cheap where I used to live.
Yeah I have, I found both together to be quite nice today until I insufflated 4mg of tizanidine and couldn't keep my eyes open for 3-4 hours. DXM and kratom just feels like kratom, a 4-substituted tryptamine, and ketamine, which is an old favorite mix of mine. Kratom has a variety of physical side effects that I find useful given chronic health issues, so I try to consume it daily even though I'm rarely in the position to brew tea daily when it takes 2-3 hours to brew. Most people would probably be concerned about a nausea risk here, but after I used ayahuasca daily for 8-10 months I no longer experience nausea meaningfully from drugs other than ayahuasca.
Mushoku_Sensei
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Why would you brew Kratom at all if I may ask?
Today's menu for me:
200 mg Tramadol as a day's base
200 mg Tapentadol as a redose.
Works quite well for now and I finally noticed a few auditory hallucinations.. probably never payed attention to them before
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I'll be sure to try that. I've used 50-100mg of Hydroxyzine as a sort of potentiator for my sleepy blend that I take at night when I have to work early. I guess its more of a base to the mix than a potentiator. The mix is 7.5mg Mirtazapine followed by 7.5mg more about an hour later (this is the skeleton of the mix) which is prescribed as my antidepressant but in this mix its used to induce drowsiness and sedation. Basically to get me to want to go to bed. 50-100mg of Hydroxyzine is used about 1 hour before the Mirtazapine to help ease anxiety and to get me in a relaxed and comfy mood. I'll also often add Lemon Balm extract (500mg), and brew up some Chamomile and Lavender tea and I'll also take some Magnesium Glycinate. Sometimes 1000mg of taurine. This mix is surprisingly effective considering my years long battle with insomnia. Will also do .25-.5mg of buprenorphine so that I don't wake up in withdrawal through the night.
I don't have too much experience with the different types. Rosin and Live Resin seem to be a little bit more expensive around these parts. I have always loved sugar wax when a nice indica is available (not sure what umbrella that'd fall under). Shatter is what I often get as it's only $10-$15/g here unless I wanna splurge on an expensive brand. It's been a few years since I've really smoked. I'm still smoking on flower a friend gave me 2 years ago and some stuff I got at the dispensary like 4 or 5 years ago. Planning on doing a dispensary run when I can afford it
I'm pretty susceptible to the nausea and physical side effects of DXM now that I'm a bit older. Even 60mg of DXM can have me not feeling great which is a bummer because it used to be one of my favorite drugs. Not sure if I'd personally be able to handle mixing kratom with it but I'm glad to hear that you get some benefit from it. Kratom + a 4- substituted tryptamine + Ketamine sounds great though. I think that I'd really like that. Maybe one day when I get my opioid tolerance down and can actually feel kratom again. After trying it the other day I'd love to get more 7-OH, I just wish it wasnt so expensive. It'd be cheaper for me to just get a gram of heroin
A gram of 63% was ~$60, so if you compare that to 20mg gas station pressies you've got ~31 tablets at a rate of around $2 per tablet, assuming you can find some gel caps or just throw the crystals in your mouth, sinuses, or lungs (via vaporization).
Man, buying concentrates by the gram brings me back, I started buying strictly by the ounce a few years ago and never looked back. Getting high quality rosin, diamonds, etc. for $8/g when buying by the ounce is just unbeatable. Ounces went down to $150 for mids, but at $5.30/g, mids are quite acceptable. For a long time I was vaporizing 2g+ a day, so it was a habit that necessitated some cost saving measures when it came to dab acquisition.
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$60 isn't too bad. The pills I tried from the local market are advertised as I think 15mg and cost like $20 for 3 of them and they didn't feel strong. The 7-OH I just got online as a free sample was advertised as 45mg and I definitely felt half of it through my suboxone, but not as a free sample the cost is $20 per $45mg without taking shipping into account. I'd pay $60 for a gram of 63 %, although a gram of black tar heroin is the same price. It'd probably take more heroin to break through the suboxone than it would 7-oh though, at least from what I've read
Bulk for sure is the way to go if you smoke a lot. I don't smoke a ton ever since it started giving me anxiety. I'll typically spend around $100 at the dispensary and get a couple of grams of oil, maybe some RSO and/or edibles and 7g or so of various strains of flower and it'll usually lasy me months if not over a year at the rate that I smoke. Would absolutely love to get back into it. I really miss having a daily psychoactive that I can use without risking ruining my life for. I do love dissociatives and will use them daily when I have them but they're so expensive these days. It was much more managable when a gram of 3-MeO-PCP was $15. I can get Ketamine cheap but it fucks up my sinuses and bladder and I can very easily go through a gram in a couple of hours, not to mention that it's harder to function on than the more manic dissociatives. I should have some 3, 4 MDPCP arriving this week and I am super excited about that.
Just got back on my walk where I smoked a cigarette, had 300mg more of Gabapentin, 250mg more Carisoprodol, some Acetaminophen and Ibuprofen. Also took 250mg more of carisoprodol as I got in the door. Washed it down with some Zero Sugar Pepsi. Feeling really bored today. Thinking of trying to play some of the Oblivion Remaster but I've been feeling very tired and the Carisoprodol doesn't exactly make me feel more interested in tasks or hobbies like dissociatives, stimulants, psychedelics or sometimes cannabis. It does make me feel perfectly content with being bored. Maybe I'll try some more 50x Black Diamond kratom extract and a hit of weed to see if it can brush away some of the cobwebs in my brain and get me feeling interested in video games.
I do still have some 3-MDPM left over. Orally it did nothing and snorting provided a very light stimulant effect for a few minutes. I need to try boofing a large dose to see if it does anything otherwise I'm retiring it and it'll collect dust until I pass away.
Edit: Fuck it, 400mg 50x Black Diamond extract which should be equal to roughly 20 grams of Kratom (Doing very rough mental math). I did take my suboxone today and this is 7-OH, its full spectrum extract so it probably wont do anything. Almost wish that I wasnt on mirtazapine so that I could trip tonight. Just feeling so bored. Have been tempted to try a microdose of a psychedelic amphetamine because at least that would still have some sort of effect. I just need some real drugs or need to get off the medications that I'm on that block the effect of the drugs that I DO have
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I've luckily not been the type to become addicted to drugs despite a life of using various things known for addictivity (benzos, meth and speed, molly, GHB, etc.), but $15 grams of 3-MeO-PCP would've had me buying an ounce and developing a serious fucking problem. I dread the day I'm able to perform grignard reactions well enough to self-supply, my wellbeing is going to be meaningfully challenged by the presence of a large amount of PCP in my possession. I'm excited to hear about how peoples' takes on 3,4-MDPCP are going to be, I recall reading Nervewing's writeups on it and being very interested in the pharmacological profile of the 3,4-Methylenedioxyarylcyclohexylamines in general. What are your preferred dissociatives from all that you've tried?
3-MDPM, as in the phenylmorpholine, methylenedioxyphenmetrazine? I absolutely ADORE that substance, I had a gram of it and found that it was best eaten anywhere up to 125mg and insufflated up to maybe 75mg or so. I could easily detect an oral 30mg dose though, or an intranasal 20mg dose, it's essentially a smoother version of Ritalin in my personal opinion. Many people who are more amphetamine-acclimated claim Ritalin does nothing, and those same people told me that MDPM did absolutely nothing for them as well. Never tried vaping it, but whether eaten or insufflated it lasted 4-6 hours easily. I never felt a comedown on it but I don't have a comedown from meth or 600mg of molly, so maybe I'm just not the type to experience comedowns.
On the topic of the thread though, yesterday night I'd smoked a little 5-MeO-DiPT cured onto sinicuichi, ate a quarter gram of THC-O, and a lot of vaporized MDMB-4en-PINACA and HHC. I was absolutely, absurdly stoned. Today I've tried to be a bit more functional, so I skipped the foxy and THC-O. Getting back in the swing of regular (and often high dose) cannabis consumption has led to my depression fading away quite a bit, and an incredibly enhanced drive to get things done, work out, make music, code, brush up languages I haven't used in a long time, etc. It's insane how important cannabis is to my mental health. Definitely diving back into the old 'weed wizard' lifestyle.
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This was back in the day when I was bumming and not working so I wasn't able to buy large amounts regularly. But I'd always use birthday and christmas cash as well as raise funds throughput the year to try and make purchases. Things were crazy cheap. High quality 3-MeO-PCP and MXE for $15/g and $20/g respectively. $10/g of A-PHP. $25/g 2CE. The good ole days. didn't know hoe good we had it. Now if I can get a gram of a RC arylcyclohexylamine for less than $180 then I'm stoked. They've been getting more and more expensive and I'm always afraid of missing the boat. I'm very excited to try this, especially after rerading Nervewings report. Probably spent a good few hours the other day reading their blog.
I actually made a very rough ranking of my favorite arylcyclohexylamines the other day and it goes as follows: ( the top 4 are definitely my top 4 and in the correct order. After that it becomes harder for me to decide what spot each one should take. Like I'd maybe move 3-MeO-PCE down to spot 5 but I didnt give oral dosing a fair go with it).
1. 3-MeO-PCP
2. MXE
3. 3-CL-PCP
4. DMXE
5. FXE
6.MXPR
7. 3-MeO-PCE (would like to play around with it more. Had maybe 1 or 2 g in my life)
8 O-PCE
9.Ketamine
10. 3-HO-PCP
11. 3-Methyl-PCP
12. DCK
13 . 2f-DCK
14. 4-Meo-PCP (only tried once)
15. 3-FL-PCP
That very same one
I've definitely eaten 125mg before and didn't get hardly any effect. I got a very very mild stimulation at that dose that wasn't at all driven or focused. So I was just kinda stimulated with no desire to focus it towards anything and that made me uncomfortable. I had almost wished I hadn't taken it that day. I've tried doing little lines of maybe 30mg and got a little more out of it that way. Maybe a short 5-10 minute "rush" resembling 3-FPM but the rush was still incredibly mild. I didn't wanna risk messing up my nose just to get nothing in return so I didn't try a higher dose. From what I've read it doesn't seem to vape well. There really seems to be some varience with some people enjoying it and others getting nothing out of it. Apparantely some Dipentylone was getting sent out as it initially but I'd at least expect some sort of effect if I had received that. Maybe the cause of the different effects between people are due to enzymes. Maybe some people are very efficient at breaking the chemical down and don't get much as a result. Maybe others are a bit slower to break this particular substance down and can enjoy having it be in their system at the right levels to achieve some sort of positive effect. I wanna try boofing so that I can attempt 150mg-200mg and bypass first pass metabolism without messing up my nose any further. Still doubt that I'll get anything. Overall, every time that I see it I just end up bummed that I wasted $60 on it.I'm glad to hear that you've been finding cannabis to really benefit you. If it helps it helps and there are much worse things that you can be doing. Plus, being a daily stoner is pretty fun. All of the different products and oils and strains and flowers. Its kinda fun to try things out and there's SO much variation with that plant that it's possible to use it regularly and never get tired of it. I actually smoked a bowl to myself for the first time in a while not too long ago. Went quite alright. I've been snacking on Soma since this evening. Just played Oblivion Remaster for like 4 hours and 80 % of my time playing was spent completely nodding off. Soma knocks my ass out if I'm not on anything stronger than caffeine, but if I'm on dissociatives or even psychedelics, it doesn't really knock me out. Benzos will with dissos and psychs but not Soma. Carisoprodol is great stuff. I'm gonna have to slow down so I can have some saved for special occasions and to try in combos. It's just insanely enjoyable lol. Speaking of which, ever combo Soma with 5-MeO-DIPT and if so how was it? How's the Foxy ben treating you in general? I have some NB, 5-MeO-MIPT that maybe I'll try mixing with it at some point once I'm off of mirtazapine. Have an appointment on Tuesday, gonna try to switch to Buproprion and take Mirtazapine as needed and up my Gabapentin