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How good does this sound for a amphetamine binge comedown

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I always ask about how to sleep on amps while im coming down so i never really have the stuff i need in advance.
So
How does 150mg benadryl + 3mg lunesta sound for coming off a 48 hour vyvanse binge?
I dont mind the metal taste.
Anyway im not tweaking right this second, but ive been up for 30 hours and might just redose and stay up one more night because i find sleep deprivation+stimulants to be fun, until the shadow people show up or until i comedown
So BL, help me out with the comedown

Oh and i last dosed about 24 hours ago
 
150mg Benadryl is too much, otherwise you should be good.

Maybe drop that 150mg down to 25-75mg. Make sure you drink a lot of water, eat a good size meal and take some vitamins. Vitamin C helps with the comedown a lot. The Lunesta will help too.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
150mg Benadryl is too much, otherwise you should be good.

Maybe drop that 150mg down to 25-75mg. Make sure you drink a lot of water, eat a good size meal and take some vitamins. Vitamin C helps with the comedown a lot. The Lunesta will help too.
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Correct, 150mg of benadryl will give you restless legs, which makes matters worse. I usually take 100mg to sleep, but I use it every day so I'm tolerant. If you don't use it to sleep 50-75 would be good.
 
I'd personally recommend just doing the lunesta, as a (pseudo) benzo it is gonna be the best option for stim comedown. No point combining drugs when you don't need to - maybe only eat the DPH if it's been half an hour after dosing the zopi and you still can't sleep. But as mentioned, keep it below 75mg, or it'll just keep you up even more.
 
3 mg Lunesta sounds fine, although you did not mention tolerance to z-drugs or benzos, so I don't know where that is. I would add the Benadryl if I were you, since you would be taking the Lunesta, but I honestly would only add 25 mg. I know some regard it as a low dose for sleep even, but I think lower doses tend to be better when using Benadryl for such purposes. I would be a little afraid of a z-drug + Benadryl after an amphetamine binge with sleep deprivation due to the possibility of psychotic symptoms, but at these doses you would be fine esp. if you are tolerant to z-drugs and have experience with them.
 
Alex000 said:
3 mg Lunesta sounds fine, although you did not mention tolerance to z-drugs or benzos, so I don't know where that is. I would add the Benadryl if I were you, since you would be taking the Lunesta, but I honestly would only add 25 mg. I know some regard it as a low dose for sleep even, but I think lower doses tend to be better when using Benadryl for such purposes. I would be a little afraid of a z-drug + Benadryl after an amphetamine binge with sleep deprivation due to the possibility of psychotic symptoms, but at these doses you would be fine esp. if you are tolerant to z-drugs and have experience with them.
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Honestly i have next to no tolerance to z drugs, i took like 10mg of ambien to trip two weeks ago and 15mg last week.
I took 3mg lunesta to sleep about four times and not recently.
What i was thinking is that i would be knocked out cold so psychosis wouldn't be a possibility if I was asleep for 8 or 9 hours.
Oh and I decided to do this on wensday, thursday and then crash on friday. Im just going to sleep tonight.
So my plan is to take 120mg of vyvanse at about 12 pm on wensday, redose with 150mg at 8 pm, then redose with 170mg at about 7 am on thursday morning, then redose with 170mg (or 200mg) at 4 pm on thursday.
I guess i would start to crash at about 1 am friday, then i would take the lunesta+50mg (or 25mg) benadryl at about 3:30 am and sleep until about 2 pm friday.
This is all experimental and its really my first amphetamine "binge".
I usally just do like one 150mg dose at about 10 in the morning then fall asleep at about 4 that night.
Anyway should i take less or more amphetamine when boosting? Is 560mg vyvanse a safe amount?
Should i dose less often? Like once a day instead of twice?
For me it takes the vyvanse about 1 hour to peak and it last about 6-8 hours, then i gradually comedown for 2-4 hours, and i cant sleep for at least 15 hours afterwards (with assistance from downers i can fall asleep 10 hours afterwards)
And i like it more than adderall which requires way to many redoses because it peaks in like 15 minutes and last for like 2-4 hours.
Oh and i often take 100mg benadryl to potentate opiates.
 
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In your opinion, is it safe for me to take 600mg of vyvanse in 4 doses over the course of 2 days, considering it takes me 150mg to really get me high and im sure binging will raise my tolerance.
 
Can someone just give me some directions on redosing? How often should i redose? Like take 150mg to start then take like 30mg every couple hours? Come on people help me i cant find anything about redosing vyvanse... and ive decided theres no way in hell im taking 600mg in two days lol
 
be careful with benedryl. when i was young and stupid i took it twice to "trip" and i have to say that is exactly how heroin withdrawal feels with the pain and restlessness in the extremities it is excruciating! stay away.
 
So ya about the redosing question?
And i will be sure to keep the dose low, ive never taken more than 100mg and that's usually to potentate opiates and i don't do opiates a lot...
 
Vyvanse on an empty stomach at therapeutic doses causes a peak D-amph plasma concentration after 3.5 hours and has a twelve hour half life.

Source:http://medicaidprovider.hhs.mt.gov/pdf/vyvansedossier.pdf

For the first 3.5 hours taking more will get you higher
after that you'll start to come down as you redoes and this will only maintain the high
personally i've always found light redoses disappointing at this point, sometimes near imperceptible, but i wouldn't risk large boosts.

is it safe for me to take 600mg of vyvanse in 4 doses over the course of 2 days
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No of course not, why would you think otherwise. It isn't safe to exceed your doctors prescribed dose at all.
Will it definitely kill you? No. People have been stupider than that and lived to tell about it--hell i've drunkenly dosed much more then that in one go but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Really, you should just find something to do for a few hours and go to sleep.
You'll enjoy your drugs more with your neurotransmitters replenished anyway.
Goodluck and Godspeed.
 
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Xeromatosis said:
Vyvanse on an empty stomach at therapeutic doses causes a peak D-amph plasma concentration after 3.5 hours and has a twelve hour half life.

Source:http://medicaidprovider.hhs.mt.gov/pdf/vyvansedossier.pdf

For the first 3.5 hours taking more will get you higher
after that you'll start to come down as you redoes and this will only maintain the high
personally i've always found light redoses disappointing at this point, sometimes near imperceptible, but i wouldn't risk large boosts.


No of course not, why would you think otherwise. It isn't safe to exceed your doctors prescribed dose at all.
Will it definitely kill you? No. People have been stupider than that and lived to tell about it--hell i've drunkenly dosed much more then that in one go but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Really, you should just find something to do for a few hours and go to sleep.
You'll enjoy your drugs more with your neurotransmitters replenished anyway.
Goodluck and Godspeed.
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Ok so after reading this im going to take 170mg as a starting dose, but i am going to binge, how many MG's should those light boost be?
 
In my nubile days before tolerance, just a healthy lad with an athletic heart and 60 kgs to call mine
i found 45 mg of d-amph (180 vyvanse) my magic launch number and often required no more
when i did boost, i'd simply use 10 mg d-amph (40 vyvanse) increases at fifteen minute intervals until satisfaction was reached
but since insufflation let me feel the effects more quickly i could evaluate the merits of continuing at that rate. With vyvanse you'd want to wait longer,
an hour or more perhaps between doses. Once you've swallowed there's not much in the way of turning back,
And you can never be sure which one is one too many.
Also i still contend that boosting as you come down is just a cocktease and an utter waste of drug. It'll just tempt you for another round and encourage you to continue binging

And please remember
I'm not telling you this dose pattern is safe,
only that it didn't kill me.

You're a big boy, you can risk what's yours.
 
Also im going to take some tums and baking soda (eww) for potentiation. That way i can consume a little less vyvanse...
 
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