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how fast benzos tolerance build up

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so i have a prescription for xanax, but i dont really abuse them anymore (had enough of passin out and wakin up 2 days laters with no recollection... lost cellphones, fights...), i just use them when i have to face a very stressful situation, which is not that often... but lets get to the point

wednesday i started classes on a new high school, so as i'm kinda social anxious, thought it would be a good use for my xanies. so i took one (2mg) at the beginning of the class, and towards the end of the class, when i started feelin anxious again, took another. i did the same thing on thursday (yesterday). it was just great, i didnt feel nervous at all, enjoyed, worked like a charm. but i know that doin this everyday is not gonna be good...

so my question is, how fast does tolerance is going to build up in that rhythm?? i definitely dont wanna get addicted to benzos... i'm thinking of switching the xanax to klonopin (so i can take just one and be alright all class), and also, keep doin therapy and CBT so i start needin less benzos until i dont need them you know... well..

thanks and any other kind of help, suggestions wtv would be apreciated
 
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My question is how are you not already tolerant if you're able to pop 2-4mg of xanax while in school and not be completely fucked up to the point where everyone notices? That's a lot of xanax for going to school. That's how much I pop when I'm looking to get piss ass drunk at home. If you're taking 4mg xanax every day of the school week, you will get dependent pretty darn fast. I can't put a # of days on it, but I wouldn't do that longer than a week tops. Klonopin would allow you to function a little more if you must do this.
 
Stick with the CBT because taking benzos, especially large doses isn't really addressing your issues. The fact that you felt the need to re-dose another 2 mg indicates you're already working up a tolerance. You don't want to get to the point where you need these pills in order to function. It's normal to feel anxious in a new school or social situation so give yourself a chance to get acclimated with a clear head.
 
thanks for the replies guys

today (friday, the third day of school) i didnt take any bars at all, yeah it was bit rougher but i had to...

my plan is besides keep on with the CBT (i know that is the one that helps the most, its just great, two years ago i was completely shy, anxious, depressed, could barely function socially and now i'm a regular dude, just a bit anxious when too much people are around...), ask my psych to switch to klonopin, and take it ONLY when i get too stressed, not everyday, until the point where i dont need them at all anymore (my ultimate goal you know).

also, about the fact that i dont get fucked up on 2-4mg... i know, apparently i'm resistant to benzos, and that is not tolerance... when i was first prescribed them (so yeah... no tolerance), i tried to use them recreationally, and 2mg would not get me fucked up AT ALL, 4mg all at once would get me may be a bit goofy, but still OK and not stupid. to get fucked up on xanax alone it would take 6mg+... of course, mixin 2-4mg with alcohol is enough for me to get fucked up...

again, thanks guys
 
If you are serious about not abusing them, and you feel that your anxiety is to the point that it is constant and after reading a little about benzo addiction, and you feel that it still might be worth it to take them daily, I would chose Klonopin. But woops lol, I just re-read what you wrote and it didn't say anything about wanting/needing to take them daily.

Well as a per needed basis I always use to favor xanax over klonopin anyday or anytime. I actually hated klonopin for per needed anxiety. But you seem to have problems abusing Xanax which can be very dangerous, and also I;m exactly like you in the aspect we are the smaller amount of people who can take it higher doses with little to no tolerance and still function. I took a 2mg xanax bar the first time I ever took it, the whole time my ex best friend who had been very very heavily addicted to them in the past, kept thinking I would black out and I never did.

Klonopin lasts longer, but sucks recreationally or as per needed the best and most potent for those reasons is Xanax, and the rest are weaker, so if that doesn't cut the trick for you or makes you more likely to abuse them, Idk what else I could recommend that will be as effective since they are all slightly weaker.
 
that resistance thing... i know right... in my 'early days' of xanax, when i didnt take them as prescribed, and just like tried to get fucked up on them, i had one friend who was all nervous and everything once so i was like 'chill out dude, here, take this', and gave him 2mg thinkin it would just sooth him, but next thing you know dude is talkin slurred, stumblin, and next day claims to forget some of the events that happened after. everyone's body is different i guess
 
i used to abuse xanax quite often and it took a while for my tolerance to go up. at first i would black out from 2mgs but after a couple years 2mgs wouldnt do to much ,then my my tolerance took a huge turn.It got out of hand when i got my hands on some alprazalam powder.After a couple weeks of taking it pretty much all day i was up to about 6mgs with not too much of a noticeable
effect.Once i ran out of my supply i tried to use xanax to get high but when i take multiple bars and dont notice too much ,that shows me its a good time to just take minimum doses to taper my self off. Xanax and all benzos are not drugs to do too much.It can really make you unhappy and most likely experience some of the worst withdrawls youll ever go through.
 
Tolerance develops so rapidly , I would compare it to even crystal meth , each time you use it ,, you will need more to feel same effects. I went from 1mg feeling sedation so taking up to 20 Xanax bars (40mg) to feel normal...gosh even on Klonopin , I was on 2mg twice daily and I swear there lis a ceiling effect -- I could eat 8-12 Kpins (16-24mg) and not feel shit. Benzos definitely are worthless if you're abusing, worthless as to getting benefits , etc
 
I've been using benzos with and without prescriptions for years.By far I prefer xanax since no other benzo woks as well.I suffer from a severe anxiety disorder and legitimately need them.I just love them so much I abbuse them.A few years ago I noticed I can only get high from them once every 7 days.Even then I need 10-20 mg to "get off".A couple years ago I discovered I could sniff half as much and get off better.Some claim this doesn't work but for me it's way better,even though it's a pain in the ass.It may work for you.Just thought I'd offer advice on what I found effective.
 
T. Calderone said:
Stick with the CBT because taking benzos, especially large doses isn't really addressing your issues. The fact that you felt the need to re-dose another 2 mg indicates you're already working up a tolerance. You don't want to get to the point where you need these pills in order to function. It's normal to feel anxious in a new school or social situation so give yourself a chance to get acclimated with a clear head.
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I agree with this.

downerhead said:
I've been using benzos with and without prescriptions for years.By far I prefer xanax since no other benzo woks as well.I suffer from a severe anxiety disorder and legitimately need them.I just love them so much I abbuse them.A few years ago I noticed I can only get high from them once every 7 days.Even then I need 10-20 mg to "get off".A couple years ago I discovered I could sniff half as much and get off better.Some claim this doesn't work but for me it's way better,even though it's a pain in the ass.It may work for you.Just thought I'd offer advice on what I found effective.
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Of course sniffing works, but only because it drips down your throat into your stomach. You sound like you have a bad habit. Good luck!
 
Thanks for the good luck wishes and you're right,My tolerance is through the roof.At the same time though,my anxiety and panic attcks are truly debilitating and benzos are the only thing that help.I've been on a galaxy of anti-depressant /anti-psychotic meds most of which I have VERY bad reactions to or they do nothing.I've been to several Drs over the years(both general practitioner and shrink )and all agree I'm not bi-polar or anything else.My diagnosis is severe anxiety disorder with frequent panic attacks.I can't stay on benzos my whole life and need serious help and a new solution.Any good advice from someone with the same condition would be greatly appreciated.Thanks and best wishes to all.
 
it seems you got some heavy anxiety shit going down... what about CBT? my anxiety was never as bad as yours is, but CBT is what did good to help me with it, and i'm today a much less anxious person. i feel like every week i'm slowly less anxious overall. if you haven't yet, read all you can about it online. one site that is good to give a look is moodgym (don't remember the exact address, just google it). antipsychotics and antidepressants, man i feel like these are all bullshit. been on some of them too...

also you have a huge tolerance to benzos it seems... do you take them everyday? your anxiety attacks might be something like a small withdrawal reaction when you don't take em you know... might wanna switch for a long half-life benzo and slowly taper off of it, and keep xanax for 'breakthrough anxiety' or wtv... good luck man, anxiety sucks...
 
neurotic said:
so i have a prescription for xanax, but i dont really abuse them anymore (had enough of passin out and wakin up 2 days laters with no recollection... lost cellphones, fights...), i just use them when i have to face a very stressful situation, which is not that often... but lets get to the point

wednesday i started classes on a new high school, so as i'm kinda social anxious, thought it would be a good use for my xanies. so i took one (2mg) at the beginning of the class, and towards the end of the class, when i started feelin anxious again, took another. i did the same thing on thursday (yesterday). it was just great, i didnt feel nervous at all, enjoyed, worked like a charm. but i know that doin this everyday is not gonna be good...

so my question is, how fast does tolerance is going to build up in that rhythm?? i definitely dont wanna get addicted to benzos... i'm thinking of switching the xanax to klonopin (so i can take just one and be alright all class), and also, keep doin therapy and CBT so i start needin less benzos until i dont need them you know... well..

thanks and any other kind of help, suggestions wtv would be apreciated
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Tolerance to benzos builds up like a mothefucker. I've been prescribed diazepam for over 2 years now. When I first started taking them, 15 mg got me where I needed to be. Within about 6 weeks of daily use I needed about 40 mgs for the same effect. Now, I need to take at LEAST 120 mg to feel something -- that's the minimum. However, my optimal dose is about 150 mg. I now use them only for high-pressure, anxiety-ladden situations. For instance, having to give a speech. I can take 150 mg and be fine, no sluring of words and my cognitive functions don't seem too badly affected. I would not take a large amount when you, for instance, are actually WRITING a speech, as there's a good chance that the next day you won't remember what you wrote. Memorise speech without the use of benzos, but when you have your speech USE them to stay cool, calm and collected. Just my 2c.
 
Michael_25 said:
I would not take a large amount when you, for instance, are actually WRITING a speech, as there's a good chance that the next day you won't remember what you wrote. Memorise speech without the use of benzos, but when you have your speech USE them to stay cool, calm and collected. Just my 2c.
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i already sorted out the benzo issue, but maaaaannn i know right HAHA i remember going to class 3 days straight completely fucked up on benzos (i don't do this anymore no need to lecture me), then go sober on the 4th day (i never notice i get too fucked up on benzos, they're sneaky for me) and then opening my backpack and goin wtf are all these papers i don't recall writing a single one of these!!
 
@Neurotic: Thanks. very much for the advice and understanding.What is CBT? I've. never heard of it.Anyway,thanks again for responding since I desperately need help.I truly fear for my sanity since my anxiety/panic attacks are basically screwing up just about every aspect of my life and only seems to get worse as I get older.This really started in my pre-teens and I'm now almost 40.Thanks again and I welcome any relevant input from all sources legitimately trying to help.Also,I'm kind of glad to hear that I'm not the only one scared to death of psyche meds.Thanks all.
 
Thank you.You're right,anxiety /panic attacks suck and make your life basically unlivable.I'll try CBT as per your advice.Anything to get this feeling off of me I'm willing to try.Thanks again for the advice.Wish me luck!
 
I sincerely wish I could help you more man, anxiety sucks

Sendin you positive vibes, wish you the best dude. Peace!
 
I built a tolerance to Xanax after only taking it a few times but I've been taking klonopin every day for 3 months and feel it the same way every night so that might be a better way to go for you (but everyone's different).. it helps a lot with anxiety. Xanax is just a short term drug. Also, be careful if you stop taking benzos suddenly if you've been taking them every day for a long period of time. Start slowly taking smaller doses to avoid withdrawal.
 
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