How does methadone compared to other opioids...

[FunctionalJnkieGrl]

Like compared to oxy and compared to blues (fentanyl)?

 

[negrogesic]

Like compared to oxy and compared to blues (fentanyl)?

Do you mean in a recreational sense?

Years ago I was on methadone, eventually reaching an enormous dose of 380mg. But they don't start you off on doses like that. The clinic that I went to was quite expensive and so when I kept on asking for more, they kept on giving me more until eventually, I stopped asking for more (at 380mg). The clinic was designed for extreme privacy, catering to the rich or hollywood types/celebrities. The emphasis on privacy was so extreme that there were multiple entrances to get in, with each door leading to a private waiting room. Essentially, the idea was that patients would never see one another patient, however, on very rare occasion you would wind up in the elevator with someone who was headed to the clinic. I never saw anyone famous in the elevator (at least no one that I recognized, i don't watch alot of TV or movies), but one person that stands out in my memory was this shockingly beautiful woman who was easily the most "perfect" looking woman I have ever seen in my life (i guess she was the wife of someone rich or famous). I'm no simp but she had this radiant beauty to her that was very unusual. The fucked up part was that she was pregnant, like maybe 7-8 months pregnant, so that kid was born addicted to methadone. I saw the lady again one other time, leaving the building, driving a Bentley of course.

Long-story short, I was basically able to dictate my dose because it was an expensive, private clinic designed to cater to the patient above all else (I would routinely fail drug test and they didn't care -- so long as I kept paying). So of course, being a addict, I kept on asking for more, which resulted in that insane dose of 380mg/day (which is equivalent to something like 4.5 grams of morphine, or thousands of milligrams of oxycodone).

Sorry, back to the question.

As far as the high of methadone versus says oxycodone, these days, if i were given a choice of taking any recreational opioid, I'd probably choose methadone. Meaning that I'd choose methodone over oxycodone, heroin etc. I enjoy a very long, lasting high and the mood boost etc. It is a great functional opioid.

That said, if you are switching to methadone from fentanyl, then you might not notice the recreational effects of methadone. This is because A) your tolerance is high from fentanyl and B) the doses they will start you off on will be very low (30mg-40mg) and not enough to produce a significant high. Even at the fancy place I went to, on the first day the most they would give me was 60mg. The very first day I went there, after the intake process, they gave me 40mg of liquid methadone (in a champagne flute ), then had me wait around abit after which they asked if I needed more, to which I said yes, and they gave me another glass with 20mg. Which was plenty since I went there for a tar heroin habit.

Despite having once been on 380mg/day, these days, 40mg would get me high as a kite since my tolerance is low. And if i tried to take my old dose of 380mg right now, i'd be dead within 2 hours.

But i strongly recommend methadone for those struggling with persistent opioid addiction. Methadone is a great opioid. I was also able to get off of it *fairly* easily, by tapering slowly. Unfortunately, in most situations, methadone clinics make you jump through alot of hoops, and are stingy with the dose. Still, I would recommend it. Great functional opioid. I miss it sometimes.

 

[dopamimetic]

@negrogesic Did you ever experience depression from remaining on the same dose of methadone or another opioid? I was scripted up to 600mg in maintenance - I entered the maintenance program almost opioid naive, I was using dissociatives and needed a prescribable, legal alternative for that when my country began to crack down on legal highs. The docs only knew DXM and thought it was an opioid so I was offered methadone under the condition that I tested positive. So I acquired a gram of h and there we go. 120mg of morphine. I quickly escalated to a final dose of 600mg/d, could have gotten more if I wanted, a friend got 1.2 grams off the same clinic. But while I had high expectations for the morphine because of the reputation of heroin as being kind of the ultimate euphoria, I was disappointed. The euphoria was only brief, and only when I upped the dosage. When I took it as directed I became depressive within a week. So I began to use less and snort the leftovers every few nights and pull an all-nighter due to the stimulating properties. But in the same time I did a lot of bad shit because I stopped caring about myself and my future, all I wanted was this euphoria which caused every ache and pain to dissolve in an ocean of nods. I stopped saving money, I stopped caring about social connections and finding work/housing etc. This never happened to me on dissociatives despite doing them daily for some time.

 

[Dextro .45]

The clinic started me out at Methadone 30mg (after 2-3 weeks of cold-turkey withdrawal from I.V. Heroin/Oxy-IR/Dilaudid). Oral Methadone 30mg was VERY pleasurable & effective analgesic painkiller

Methadone 40-50mg begins to saturate the mu-opioid receptors and will diminish the euphoric rush of other opioids like Oxy/H/Dilaudid

Methadone 80mg - 100mg is my current dose and is very effective as a long acting opioid for chronic pain. Hi oral bioavailability, long half life, and yes….very pleasurable & euphoric…being a full agonist at mu-opioid receptors

Oxycodone was easily the most pleasurable opioid I’ve ever had. Ever.
Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) is Very potent water soluable / stronger than Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) although very sedating
Diacetylmorphine (Diamorphine) “Heroin” if pharmaceutical grade would be easily the most highly desirable and extremely pleasurable & euphoric. Potent opioid analgesic

Oxycodone taken orally is unreal in the euphoria it enduces