If it's tweak, i stop when i start having really bad hallucinations.
Likely risking neurotoxicity there, what is that, at least a few days? It furthers my point that people do that kind of binging. I mean, don't get me wrong, I've gone on my share of binges in the past, but they really are damaging, as good as you might feel. It's like you just can't get the willpower to stop, it just seems so much more inviting to tread the unmarked path just a little more. People aren't adapted to know when to stop, we wait until it becomes more unpleasant to continue, or when damage is obvious, and by then we've already fucked ourselves, figuratively.
If it's dope, I stop when i can't shit anymore.
Better than stims, at least. Still, risking addiction and/or dependency. At the very least, it messes with you mentally, even if you are blind to it at the time. Lol, better than my habits were, anyway. I literally started binging opiates, mainly hydromorphone, and then stopped... Almost three years later, anyway. One long hazy 2.5+ year binge, with maybe ten to fifteen days of withdrawal interspersed for when business was bad or I just couldn't locate what I needed. Even then I would dose benzos heavily to get by, combined with drinking far too much. It got to the point where I was shooting every 3-5 hours, usually closer to three, and waiting even 7-8 hours for a better rush was "impossible". Not low dose shots either, I had plenty of money during the period of my "business", we're talking 20-24mg at least, often more (hydromorphone). Stopping didn't happen until profit did, when I became homeless and lost all my shit. Even then I used and literally couldn't stop. I had to get on a bus and ditch province, actually going more than halfway across the country to find a place where I had no connections and could withdraw without temptation. Then it took like a year to even halfway recover and stop the worst of the cravings.
Opiates are damnably addictive, too expensive, and horrible for sneaking up on you with a dependence. But they feel like super-orgasmic warmness in every cell. Given the option, if I knew I could forever support it, I know hands down that I'd still be IVing opiates.
I've done it maybe ten to fifteen times since quitting. I don't consider them relapses, they're isolated and because of my past experiences, I've always been able to stop after two to three days, with no withdrawal symptoms. But I PLAN that shit, carefully. I know what it could easily turn into; which helps me in gathering and maintaining the willpower to just stop when I've still got plenty I could do.
Basically, I couldn't stop until it was way too late, and the only reason I can stop now is because of how hellish that year after quitting was. I can't go back there, I'd rather cease to exist. But, then, I was also tapering down hard on three or four benzos too, and that made the withdrawal exponentially worse. I can only stop because I can literally view going on as equivalent to or worse than death.
And if it's some sort of psychedelic, i'll binge until i'm exhausted physically.
In all honesty though, depending on the drug i wouldn't just stop (taper) or at least have some benzos on hand.
Binge as long as you want on psychedelics. You can't do it for very long anyway, and use of them is pretty much self-monitoring, due to rapid tolerance acquisition and the necessary dose upgrading required. I find psychedelics to be a healing agent for the mind. Just wondrous, and NOT physically addictive at all, nor craving promoting.
But, yeah, benzos always help with stopping the use of pretty much every drug I've tried. Too bad I needed to massively lower the amount I was taking, because I was phys. dependent on the for any type of functioning at all.
Btw, quitting IV opiates, or any route of admin., really, is incredibly easier if you use the OTC resources available to one in need. Loperamide, or Immodium, actually helps a lot when taken in massive doses. People say it doesn't cross the BBB well enough to be psychoactive. That's bullshit, IMO and IME. Butr we're talking fifty plus milligrams. I needed over 100 per dose. That's over fifty pills, and it's so expensive it might as well be from the street. Less helpful, I find, is the codeine you can get OTC in many countries, though only 8mg tablets here, combined with 15mg of caffeine each and a ton of acetaminophen to CWE out. The caffeine stays, mostly, so it kind of really sucks.
The best thing, barring methadone or suboxone, which many cannot get on (or off, I've heard), is poppy seeds. I'll stand by them to the grave. They don't get completely washed of opium latex, especially in bulk stores; meaning you can have morphine/opiate tea. Just find a store with cheap bulk poppy seeds, test it by using 300mg to measure potency, if any. I could use a kilogram to a kilo and a half and actually catch a nod. Used two to three times a day at the dose you need to kill the cravings and the withdrawal symptoms, it's a Godsend. And you can slowly reduce the dose every two or three days, more if you need it. Until you feel if not the best, at least good, without opiates in your system.
I'm amazed they're legal, lol. So ridiculously cheap compared to street prices. Five to ten bucks gives you a good day, two if you stretch it. You can't inject it, and as long as you don't dose it too frequently or too heavily, it's relatively safe. People have died from it, though, so be careful. Test the potency of every new batch, it varies quite a lot, not all seeds have the same latex coating left. You could OD on as little as a kilo if it's too potent. If anyone asks why you buy so many poppy seeds, tell them you absolutely love poppy seed cakes and other baked goods. It's still legal to have whatever amount, until the minute you start making the tea, which would be considered a preparation of morphine.
To make the tea, simply put your dose of seeds in a container, fill to a little above the seeds with WARM water, and then shake/let sit for thirty to forty mins. Strain the seeds from the liquid, and squeeze them inside the container to push out the water they soak up. Rewash the seeds, same drill, but don't combine the washes. Taste the first wash, and it shouldn't be unpleasant, but rather, earthy, tealike, and, here's what to taste for: bitter! You can generally gauge the strength of a particular wash by tasting for bitterness alone. Test that, taste the second wash. Still bitter, but very noticeably weaker. Still diminishing returns don't crop up too much till the third wash, which I don't bother with.
Dose every six to ten hours, depending on need, and stabilize without the horrors of withdrawal. Literally, folks, you can KILL the symptoms completely; I cannot praise this stuff enough. To anyone trying to quit, please, just give seeds a try. You won't regret it. It literally saved my life, I wouldn't have got on the bus to leave street opiates behind without it; I just took enough seeds for two weeks and left.
It sounds too good to be true, and it almost should be, lol, but I swear, this is legitimate. Poppy seeds, at least from bulk stores (IME), contain more than enough morphine for opiate tapering, and even if you don't want to quit, you can get a damn good high from it, even a nod. And it's long lasting, so you don't need to redoes that much at all. In fact, I could get by on one strong dose a day, but I took a second one around supper time in order to mitigate symptoms upon waking the next day.
Seed tea, FTW.
