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How do you keep your weight under control?

trudatman said:
veganism.

eat NO animal flesh nor animal jizz/spew/squirt/blood/hair/milk/piss/shit/snot/etc. for three months and you will be healthier and smaller, guaranteed. I'd make a bet with anybody willing to try it, but it would be tough to monitor/prove. eat a variety of stuff, though. get a huge list of vegetables and try them all. dismiss this at your own risk; if you truly wish to be healthier, get on it. veganism.
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no offense but vegans are very unhealthy
i was one for a long time, i was in the worst shape ever and i was chunky as can be

when i put meat and PROTEIN back into my diet i lost the weight i put on from being a vegan


the way to lose weight and keep it off is to eat healthy portions
5 small meals a day, start your day with a hearty breakfast and DONT SNACK!!
working out is good too
 
ladyinthesky said:
when i put meat and PROTEIN back into my diet i lost the weight i put on from being a vegan
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That's what I try explaining to so many vegetarians/vegans(esp. girls) but they flat out don't believe me that meat is good. True, you have to take it easy with the red meat, but lean chicken and fish are essential.
 
I know so many people, who are out of shape and claim they don't eat that much. But they're sucking down cokes like there's no tomorrow, eating a ton of junk food late at night, all the worst possible ways to lose/maintain weight.

A lot of it is education. I know it's a pain in the ass to learn all the specifics, of what's in each food, and whatnot. It's all about how much you really want to lose weight; how bad you want to achieve your goal?

I'm a firm believer that 5-6 healthy meals a day do speed up the metabolism and help you lose weight. With most peoples hectic schedule, I know it's hard. But it is easy to cut out cokes and replace it with water, milk, or a low sugar/carb sports drink.
 
I always find it funny when people promote veganism as the solution to all health problems. They're always just so damn sure too. There are diseases and health problems that come from only eating vegetables/fruits just like there are problems that come from eating lots of meat/cheese/animal products.

In my opinion the best diet is a balance between everything, lots of variety, and eating less (stopping when you're not hungry anymore). This combined with keeping active is the best way to lose weight.

I think it's impossible to eat that way and stay active every day and not hit a healthy state for your body. Worrying about fat is a vanity thing in a lot of cases if you're already doing the above. People will force their body to lose more fat than it does naturally because they're going for a certain look. Fat isn't unhealthy.

Honestly though in the end I don't think anyone knows what the fuck they're talking about when it comes to "eating healthy." Everyone seems to make it to around 60-80 when they die from either cancer or heart attack and all we can do is pretend we know which foods will make this not happen. I can bullshit on all of it.
 
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^^a good diet and body weight adds to the quality, not quantity of one's life. They have a bunch of drugs and machines to help you suffer through the last 10 years of of bed ridden, cancerous, obesity.

I don't eat quite enough, hike a lot, and landscape for my job. keeps me slender.
 
Kul69 said:
Worrying about fat is a vanity thing in a lot of cases if you're already doing the above. People will force their body to lose more fat than it does naturally because they're going for a certain look. Fat isn't unhealthy.
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This is a subjective statement. Be it, yes, a certain look is the payoff for busting your ass and having a lot of self dicipline when others don't. But I don't think you should knock people for caring about how they look because it's also about setting goals, and accomplishing them.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not knocking people who are not interesting in phsycial fitness. That's their decision. But it works both ways man. What do you mean when you say 'fat is not unhealthy?' I'm going to assume you mean just a little extra that everyone is going to have, save for serious bodybuilders with single digit body fat %. With all due respect to all bluelighters, obesity is not healthy. I know you didn't use that word, but you didn't make it clear.
 
uhmm I don't know I've weighed about the same for the past 10 years. *shrugs*
 
ladyinthesky said:
no offense but vegans are very unhealthy....
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I was going to reply to some of the other lies and cruelty in this thread, but this one TAKES THE CAKE (cake?!). YOU were unhealthy. you were the evil you are trying to put on us. I know about two hundred vegans (probably a lot more, as I worked in a vegan FAST FOOD JOINT for the past two years) and they are a healthy group -- healthier than any group I've known (over runners and gym members and actors and junkies and hippies and gang members and....), so you must run with a lame crowd of poorly directed vegans or you are full of the proverbial "it." and "no offense, but...?!" are you kidding me? wow. worse than the dude who said we're depressed and antisocial. wow.
 
trudatman said:
I was going to reply to some of the other lies and cruelty in this thread, but this one TAKES THE CAKE (cake?!). YOU were unhealthy. you were the evil you are trying to put on us. I know about two hundred vegans (probably a lot more, as I worked in a vegan FAST FOOD JOINT for the past two years) and they are a healthy group -- healthier than any group I've known (over runners and gym members and actors and junkies and hippies and gang members and....), so you must run with a lame crowd of poorly directed vegans or you are full of the proverbial "it." and "no offense, but...?!" are you kidding me? wow. worse than the dude who said we're depressed and antisocial. wow.
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Fact is, vegans do miss out on certain foods that do aid in the acceleration of the metabolism; helping with weight loss. Nothing personal against you, nor any other vegan, stirctly trying to give advice on fat loss. I know you didn't quote me, just saying I don't think they were peronally attacking your choice of lifestyle, just pointing out the facts considered truthful by most.
 
well, you (and "most") are wrong. the only real trick to getting complete nutrition as a vegan is getting some real sunlight (Canadians, Scandinavians and folks from Tierra Del Fuego can worry, as their sunlight is at an angle that doesn't work out). if I have trouble getting a good complete feeding for a day, I drink this http://myvega.com stuff. but, like most diets, if you eat a vast variety of allowed foods, you will be doing great on all fronts. ignorance wins, though, so we get a bad rep from failures and a bad name from haters and those who would rather not try to understand. sucks, but it's tru.
 
trudatman said:
well, you (and "most") are wrong. the only real trick to getting complete nutrition as a vegan is getting some real sunlight (Canadians, Scandinavians and folks from Tierra Del Fuego can worry, as their sunlight is at an angle that doesn't work out). if I have trouble getting a good complete feeding for a day, I drink this http://myvega.com stuff. but, like most diets, if you eat a vast variety of allowed foods, you will be doing great on all fronts. ignorance wins, though, so we get a bad rep from failures and a bad name from haters and those who would rather not try to understand. sucks, but it's tru.
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Last time I checked, sunlight didn't provide a decent protein%. We can sit here and debate which way is more healthy all day. The thread was on weight control. Protein helps speed up the metabolism, burn fat, and is very helpful in weight control. Most vegans do not see enough protein from their diets, hence I don't believe it is one of the most effective ways of managing weight.
 
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^^being a vegan doesn't necessitate less protein. why does everyone think this?
 
I am actually very, very healthy apart from my drug use.

I have been bodybuilding for six years and have a very defined, muscular body. Of course it has taken years to inprint these good habits - but as of now, 90% of my diet is mostly protein, vegetables, fruits and healthy fats. I run three-four times a week and lift weight every other day.

So apart from getting fucked up every weekend, my lifestyle is laughable healthy - though speaking of getting fucked, being in good shape has gotten me alot of pussy I would never had a chance of seeing being unfit.
 
i guess i just have a really fast metabolism. i pretty much eat whatever i want to.

but occasionally have "short term anorexia"
 
Mehm said:
^^being a vegan doesn't necessitate less protein. why does everyone think this?
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Well one example is on page 2 of this thread. Poster stated that they had tried the vegan route, and from first hand experience, were not satisfied with the weight control. Now I don't know how well they adhered to the 'correct' vegan diet, but I'm assuming they did. They then go on to state, once they added meat back into their diet, they actually lost weight without making any other lifestyle changes.
 
>>Now I don't know how well they adhered to the 'correct' vegan diet, but I'm assuming they did. >>

Hmm, I assume they didn't eat a 'correct' diet because they weren't getting enough protein! ..which is very easy if you can eat enough beans, grains, and failing that pure protein shakes.

With that being said, the main reason I stopped being vegan after two years was an intense craving for meat and a general feeling of sickness/lethargy (I did however feel GREAT for a year and a half of being vegan). The first huge steak I ate caused zero intestinal distress and was delicious. I was getting enough protein before this for sure, it was something specifically about the meat that I needed.

My point being, a vegan is not necessarily healthy or unhealthy. It just depends on the person and their diet.
 
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