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How do we want to handle the Synthetic Discussion in CD?

Well I consider you're definition of a psychedelic to be flawed then. I really don't care which forum the JWHs end up it. I gave my 2 cents, you guys can decide whatever you want.
 
I think they belong here, but in a megathread if possible. They are closest to cannabis in effect (at least thats how they react with me).

I personally do not care all that much, I used them a few times, however I have stopped in order to let some more research come in. Frankly, I do not think they will be legal for all that much longer. I do think the DEA is most likely focusing on bigger issues right now. People are starting to call for a refocus on the drug violence occurring at our borders and that is most likely what the current administration that is finally getting control of the DEA is going to set as its priority.
 
I think that chemically infused smoking blends containing plant matter such as Spice and K2 should be discussed here in Cannabis Discussion while pure powdered research chemicals such as JWH-073 or 250 or the CPs belong in Psychedelic Drugs or Advanced Drug Discussion or Trip Reports or Other Drugs.
 
if you think syth cannaboids don't belong here because they are "psychedelic" you aren't thinking logically -- weed in and of itself is psychedelic. If that's your ground reason for the movement, then you should merge CD and PD together.

These particular RCs are simply more apparently psychedelic because it is so powerful and concentrated. People in PD will be looking for info on larger doses for different effects than people in CD will be. Doesn't make sense not to have two for the sake of harm reduction -- some kid with JWH looking to get just high isn't the same as psychonaughting around with RCs.
 
Get your Synthetic ills out of my Cd forums, Cannabis is bread for africa, healing of the nation, shivas gift to us all.
Synth Cannabinoids can gtfo of this, inducing calamity on a brother.

Alternatively you do a Jwh Mega Thread with an FAQ?

I dont want to be reading about burmese super kush hit back and see a K2 thread, that just ruins the whole flow of the forum.

Every second thread is about some fucking spice mix, this must be adressed instead of shrugging and going, "oh well its like pot".

Synth Cannabinoids detract from the focus of CD and impedes the development of cannabis users within CD.

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Cannabis Discussion was originally created to relieve PD of the cannabis related topics. It doesn't really seem logical to re-allow cannabis related discussion in PD when there's a forum dedicated to it. Synthetic cannabinoids/analogue discussion was always located here, in CD, it was considered to be "cannabis-related". But ever since the insurgence of the JWH series et al, it suddenly became accepted as a PD topic again. IMO it should stay in CD, PD has a vast enough scope as it is already, if you take it out of CD, it becomes even narrower.

On the other hand, things could just stay the way they are now; a subject not bound to any forum in particular, a pretty good middle ground for all parties. CD doesn't get flooded as much as it would otherwise & PD regulars are still able to discuss the subject amongst themselves.
 
im with roger, for the harm reduction, on the point that the synthetics are research chemicals. it is misleading to see all of the synthetics grouped with cannabis: they are untested, possibly way more dangerous, and recently developed drugs.

why group them with weed? why not send to the PD, where they can give proper harm reduction? they seem more than willing.


it would be crazy to change the forum, and what it stands for, to fit the synthetic series. this is a place to talk about the herb. its only two clicks to go to a different forum anyways. its not like walking across town.

just imo
 
If you give the synthetics their own sub forum not enough experienced users who actually have valid input on the topic would actually visit there. It's kind of a joke that everybody is getting upset over a few topics here and there.

What is there to be "sick about seeing"? I mean, for fucks sake people, grow the fuck up.

If anything you all should be happy that there is actually something new to be talking about instead of these half assed threads about some of the dumbest shit I have ever read.
 
lightofmeaning said:
why group them with weed? why not send to the PD, where they can give proper harm reduction? they seem more than willing.
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So the people of Cannabis Discussion are inadeqaute to provide people with harm reduction? Gee, thanks for your narrow minded view on the subject.

Bluelight is not just PD, or just OD. Bluelight is all forums together. If you want to discuss a certain topic, you go to the designated forum to do so. It almost looks like PD is exempt to that reasoning, allowing topics that entertained DC for over years, allowing Cannabis related Discussion all of a sudden when the forum designed for it is sometimes struggling to bring in good discussion. It makes sense to the PD regulars, as they are fond of discussing things amongst themselves, but in reality, not so much..

IMO, if the PD people want to discuss these kind of topics so eagerly, they can do so here. What objection could you possibly have against that?
 
Almost nobody in CD is discussing the PSYCHEDELIC effects of synthetic cannabinoids. 99% of the posts are about getting stoned using synthetic cannabinoids, and they're full of nothing but comparisons to cannabis the plant.
 
The argument "it's wrong to group synthetic cannabinoids with weed because they're untested" could equally apply to PD- "it's wrong to group RCs with mushrooms and cacti because they're untested". PD isn't a place for all RC discussion, it's a place for psychedelic RC discussion. By the same logic, cannabinoid RC discussion belongs here.

As for the terpene/indole argument...shouldn't there be a seperate dissociatives forum then? I mean, they have not only different structures to psychs, but affect different receptors entirely.I think that they're included in PD because the experience is, in important ways, qualitatively similar to that of psychedelic drugs. Again, then, drugs which produce cannabis-like effects belong in CD.
Some CDers don't like synthetics- I'm sure that some PDers don't like dissociatives. They are free to not post in those threads.

Finally, the suggestion that we can't give good HR advice in CD...that's verging on being offensive to be honest. Sorry that we're not as worldly and helpful as the bods over in PD. I think we can manage "start with a low dose...use a milligram scale...don't do too much". We're not stupid.
 
Yerg said:
^So you agree that dissociatives should be split off from PD?
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Yes I would like to see a seperate dissociative forum that includes Nitrous, ketamine, DXM, PCP and any others?? But thats not what we are talking about.

I think cannabis is such a common drug that it requires its own forum. I don't think that its because JWH is untested that thats why it shouldn't be in this forum. But because we have enough cannabis topic to fill a whole forum already. synthetics are just wasting space in my favorite forum.
 
If we split the forums like that, there'd be such a multitude of focus forums that it'd be totally impractical. I mean, Opiate Discussion could split from OD. Then so could stimulant discussion. Then the cocaine users think that coke deserves its own subforum, and it just goes on. BL is already fragmented and cliquey enough.
I don't really know what you mean by "fill a forum". There's no limit to how many threads a forum can accommodate (well, no practically relevant one), and CD is a lot less busy than PD or OD.
 
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Its used for its cannabis like effects, it interacts with the same receptors its THC like in effect. Just do not read the threads if it doesn't interest or pertain to you.
 
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