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How do the heroin addicts use MDMA?

Is it possible to experience a full blown MDMA high while on bupe? didn't do pills for a long time...
 
I used to love to IV one dolcotin(morphine sulphate pentahydrate? 100mg) and one e pill in one shot. If the e was good and had no speed in it I would nod off right away, in the best possiblle way......
 
In my experience the roll won't hit until the warm feeling of the smack has subsided. I once double dropped at a jedi mind tricks show : ) a few hours after having a shot. I felt very sick, and wasn't rolling at all a couple hours later. bout four hours after dropping they kicked in full on while pulling up to a motel party. it was sweet, but it took til the h felt completely gone b4 they did anything. still got 3-4 hours out of them tho.
 
I agree that opiates and psychedelics are perfect together, opiates with trichocereus my personal fav.

From "Ecstasy, Dance Trance & Transformation" by Nicholas Saunders with Rick Doblin page 82:

"Junkies and E

Siegel found that 90% of hard-drug users who had tried MDMA did not want to repeat the experience, finding little or no effect or not enjoying it."

"Junkies and ravers don't mix

Henderson says Ecstasy users are distinct from opiate users: for example, ravers take the drug in public and do not regard junkies as antiheroes."

"Ecstasy and opiates have little in common, so heroin users do not find that MDMA satisfies their needs. Social workers with a broad experience of drug users believe it is unlikely that MDMA users will go on to addictive drugs, because junkies are a separate social group. Rather than considering them romantic antiheroes, the typical ecstasy user sees them as unattractive and is strongly anti-heroin.

Most Ecstasy users take other dance drugs, and these do include addictive drugs, particularly amphetamine and cocaine. MDMA has also been referred to as a "gateway drug" to the hallucinogens.

According to "The Pursuit of Ecstasy, the other drugs most popular among Ecstasy users in the U.S. are marijuana, cocaine, psilocybin, LSD, and speed. The most-liked drug is MDMA, followed by psilocybin and mescaline."
 
so its ok to mix heroin and MDMA?

I have just come off methadone...for about 2 weeks now.

I am starting to use heroin again. Not much smoke about a quater gram a day. Nothing.

I am going to a rave and want to do about 2 to 3 E's that night. Should I be OK?
I was on methadone for almost a year and on heroin before that for a year and now its been around 3 months.

Please if anyone knows if this won't put me in the hospital please let me know. I smoke the heroin by the way. NO NEEDLES!

MissKittyKat
 
zophen said:
Jamshyd what the fuck is a "byzantine" drug ,please enlighten me it sounds kind of historical ,but i guess that isn't what you meant.

Sorry, I never noticed this post till today.

"Byzantine" is an english expression used to describe something that is more complicated/primitive than it needs to be.

I call E a "Byzantine" drug because, to me, its negative side effects outweigh the positive effects.
 
^^^ hmm, don't know-a bird--yellow, in fact--told me maintenance doses of subuxone with pure MDMA were quite a good time, if not overwhelming.

how is byzantine pronounced? bi zan teen? I always like to throw new words into conversations to confuse the locals.

swybs
 
One of the best MDMA experiences I've ever had was while shooting speedballs and coke. The heroin just intensifies the euphoria.
 
I wouldnt recommend doing them together. Comeon guys, someone can really hurt themselves injecting MDMA and Heroin...
 
swybs said:
how is byzantine pronounced? bi zan teen? I always like to throw new words into conversations to confuse the locals.

LOL. Yes I believe it is pronounced that way (or rather be zahn teen - stress on last syllable)
 
lol mad bumpage.

anyway.

E is an extroverted drug

H is an introverted drug

that is all.

</shiraz and amphetamines>
 
When I used to use heroin I loved using it on the comedown. It kinda of brought back some of the E-euphoria, while having all of the good effects of dope. I am on methadone now and I don't roll that much anymore. However, whenever I do roll, I always take my morning dose on the comedown. It smooths me out and kinda brings the roll back in a mellow sorta way.
 
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