Kratom How Do People End Up Taking Kratom Daily?

[agoraphobe]

I had an awful Kratom (plain leaf) comedown last night through today. Not the first time and it always happens when I can't force myself to space for 72 hours. I see people on here talking about taking Kratom daily and I just don't understand how it's possible. Even my cousin who is a former heroin addict can't understand how I don't dose daily by now. Leaving the come down aside, the high from roughly 4.5g of plain leaf with only 48 hours spacing was pretty much shit. Like an hour or 2 of mildly okay and then yuck, garbage feeling, anxiety etc.

Now some people will say that's when you go chasing higher doses, but when I've done that, getting as high as 6g I just get very sedated without any additional buzz/euphoric feelings. I assume daily users are either A. doing it for legitimate pain relief or B. to simply keep wds at bay. Can't actually be getting a good high taking Kratom daily, no?

 

[chippermonk]

Yeah, for me it seems like it's only maybe worth it if I do it like once or twice a week, and even then not more than 2.5 g But maybe I'm weird that way, because it seems like a lot of people do get pleasure out taking more and more often. But for me, it started off great at first but over time I lost the magic and I can't imagine bigger doses will get it back. It just doesn't feel attainable with more so I don't even try.

 

[happyherbal]

I think a big part of it is that people have different reasons for using it. Some use it for pain management rather than chasing a high, but daily use can still lead to tolerance and dependence. Honestly, taking breaks and keeping track of frequency matters more than constantly looking for stronger products. Quality and consistent lab testing are important too when choosing a vendor.

 

[Bleaney]

I use kratom as a physical and mental energiser, sociability enhancer, and mood booster. By switching strains occassionally it has delivered these effects for me, for several years of daily dosing, and continues to do so.

I totally disagree with all those who say that all the different strains are just marketing bullshit, my body knows otherwise, it has now become dependent on the alkaloids found within specific strains (although I currently use a set of 4 strains that are interchangeable with each other for alleviating any W/ds. Any strains outside of this set to do not alleviate w/ds, and I think that a period of adjustment will be required when I next switch strains.)

There is no very strong high or music enhancement etc with this kratom for me.

The kratom I received in the 2010s was a very different beast. It was massively euphoric, massively enhanced music, socialbility and self confidence, and was highly addictive! Each strain was very noticeably different in it's effects.

That stuff stopped working after 3 months of quite heavy daily use, and no longer delivered the highs. And several times I continued taking it, just to stave off the w/ds.

Today's stuff delivers no strong highs for me, but by rotating strains once they 'poop out', I've been able to benefit from the mental and physical stimulation it provides, for years, and still going. It's nowhere near as immediately addictive.

For at least 3 years I was able to take 2 daily doses, and suffer no w/ds on the days I didn't take it. But gradually that changed.

I have tapered off and briefly stopped once due to a planned hospital admission and procedure a year or so ago. That was easy.

However, I soon got back on it, after I was discharged from hospital with a prescription for opiate pain killers, and quickly found myself craving those, and felt I'd be far better off back on the Kratom, as opposed to developing a codeine or DHC habit.

I've tried to taper off again, but it's created social friction at work, with people complaining at me for my mood, so I opted for people pleasing rather than go through another taper, that now looks like it will be a lot more difficult than the previous one.

And here I am, still stuck in the same position, as of right now..