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Stimulants How do people do meth daily?

Inrage said:
It’s totally doable. Been at my job going on 8+ years, 6 of them being on shards. Have missed 3 days of work because of long nights and turning my alarm clock off and laying back down. Small breakfast, massive lunch and dinner ranges from small to large. Use every morning and either when I leave work or a couple hours after. Small doses. I sleep everynight besides the very rare wild ones but keep those to weekends. It can be done.
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You are a rare breed. Be safe. I know that some are able to use it and mysteriously still have their shit together and be employed. I'll never know how anyone can be employed on meth or heroin, but ppl never cease to amaze me. They almost deserve a metal of honor if it wasn't as disturbing as it sounds. I mean, do what you have to do, lol. Also, everyone else--make sure to not let it get you too bad! You don't want to lose your life and loved ones over a powerful stimulant. At least from what it sounds--if we believe your takes--it seems as though most of you have it relatively together. Given... you're using you know what.
 
I was just looking at my historical logs and the first dose I meth I did was between 30 and 70 mg.

That in 2019.

Wasn't very clear cause my scale didn't weight that accurately.

I think it was functional and an immense mood booster.

I require 40 mg ritalin for sufficient affect, any lower and it's like it never hits.

Is 40 mg ritalin equivalent to any dose of meth? Bearing in mind 25 mg is the max clinical dose.

Meth is a great stimulant just the after effects and the fact it's insanely neurotoxic kind of suck.
 
My guess is they are disciplined with it

take a tiny bit (eat it) like 6am when get up for work and leave it that

But yeah no idea how people smoke it or inject it all day and not fuck their lives up fast
 
JohnBoy2000 said:
I was just looking at my historical logs and the first dose I meth I did was between 30 and 70 mg.

That in 2019.

Wasn't very clear cause my scale didn't weight that accurately.

I think it was functional and an immense mood booster.

I require 40 mg ritalin for sufficient affect, any lower and it's like it never hits.

Is 40 mg ritalin equivalent to any dose of meth? Bearing in mind 25 mg is the max clinical dose.

Meth is a great stimulant just the after effects and the fact it's insanely neurotoxic kind of suck.
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You have historical meth logs? That is the methiest thing I've heard this month! 😆

According to the ADHD medication calculator, 40mg IR methylphenidate equals roughly 10mg methamphetamine. How accurate that could actually be, I do not know.
 
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In a therpeutic dose range (5-25mg/day) and orally as far as ROA. The quicker the onset of effect, the more compulsive redosing becomes an issue. Oral meth in low doses is not particularly compulsive, but start sniffing, smoking, or shooting it and it becomes much less realistic to manage it in any functional way.

As for folks who use it in high doses compulsively, I believe that eventually they crash out for a few days to sleep/eat/heal before starting the cycle again. Unlike heroin, constant daily (ab)use is much too hard on the body to keep up without breaks.
 
drewbocop said:
You have historical meth logs? That is the methiest thing I've heard this month! 😆

According to the ADHD medication calculator, 40mg IR methylphenidate equals roughly 10mg methamphetamine. How accurate that could actually be, I do not know.
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lol

I keep a log in my day planner of all meds, time spent sleeping, daily activities, etc.

5 to 10 mg meth is almost imperceptible to me, even 25 mg doesn't do a whole lot.

Really it takes up to about 40 mg I would say before there's even a remote sense of rushing, or mood boost.

40 mg ritalin has a nice effective hit to it. Plus I actually sleep better on days I use it.

Factoring in the respective toxicity of each, plus viability to use with consistency, I can't imagine how anyone could dose meth at 40 mg daily and not feel absolutely awful.

Plus the emotional roller coaster after each dose that can go on for weeks and weeks, not to mention paranoia, it's pretty horrid stuff.

That being said it's mood boosting effect, elation, euphoria, are all almost unparalleled.
 
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tryptakid said:
In a therpeutic dose range (5-25mg/day) and orally as far as ROA. The quicker the onset of effect, the more compulsive redosing becomes an issue. Oral meth in low doses is not particularly compulsive, but start sniffing, smoking, or shooting it and it becomes much less realistic to manage it in any functional way.

As for folks who use it in high doses compulsively, I believe that eventually they crash out for a few days to sleep/eat/heal before starting the cycle again. Unlike heroin, constant daily (ab)use is much too hard on the body to keep up without breaks.
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Tolerance has got to be another issue though?

I've read on r/drugs some users simply find it stops working and they go higher and higher on the dose trying to recapture the euphoria it brings with the first few doses.

That's when I'd imagine real physiologic problems take effect.

It's effect on heart rate also is seriously concerning, especially at doses above clinical max.

There's any number of interviews with meth abusers on youtube.

Based on appearance, it basically melts the body, teeth, skin, hair, collagen, that's not even considering what happens internally to the brain and nervous system.

Oxidative stress, excitotoxicity presumably being the mechanisms responsible for crippling CNS integrity.

No wonder some chronic users become schizophrenics.
 
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Not to ramble at this point, but in the past I've heavily used peptides like melanotan 2 (which is non-discriminatory on MC receptors, many of which have effects undocumented nor understood).

When I was doing this, I had a very healthy lifestyle, in very good shape, physically active, great diet, and I never had any kind of issue with side effects.

Most notably at that time, low to non-existent visceral fat levels.

Visceral fat is a power house for churning out inflammation, by that principle also oxidative stress. Overall, heavily compromised physiological function.

Even during Covid as an example, those most at risk were thought to be those who were overweight, and primary remedies or symptom reducers were anti-inflammatories like turmeric + black pepper combinations.

Then latter my diet/lifestyle went to hell and I started to get side effects from everything.

Melanotan 2 would have a horrific effect on my mood, and gave me horrid tinnitus. At the same time, I noticed the deleterious effects of meth had become much more pronounced, paranoia much more readily forthcoming, etc.


In short, if a body is healthy, lean, low visceral fat, low inflammation and oxidative stress......... maybe something like consistent meth use would be viable, as it's pro-inflammatory and oxidative stress effects can be more readily managed by a healthy body and strong nervous system.

But the saying in the peptide community is, aside from reta and other glp1 peptides, they should generally be avoided unless one is already in a state of very good health, as they could do more harm than good.

Perhaps the same principle applies to chronic meth use?
 
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So about 10 years ago, I "fell" into this habit. At the point I am now, I wake up and smoke, go to work, come home and do domestic stuff, get ready for bed, smoke and go to sleep. If I'm home, on a day off, ill smoke a couple of times a day, sometimes I go hard and smoke all day. My normal use is about a ball or more a day. Yes, I eat and sleep with no problem. I don't get "tweaked out", I just continue with my day like anyone else. I have had friends who smoke too, comment on the amount I smoke, because it doesn't have the "stereotypical" effect on me. This is not a flex in any way, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy, it just is, what it is.
 
NotProudBUTNotAshamed said:
So about 10 years ago, I "fell" into this habit. At the point I am now, I wake up and smoke, go to work, come home and do domestic stuff, get ready for bed, smoke and go to sleep. If I'm home, on a day off, ill smoke a couple of times a day, sometimes I go hard and smoke all day. My normal use is about a ball or more a day. Yes, I eat and sleep with no problem. I don't get "tweaked out", I just continue with my day like anyone else. I have had friends who smoke too, comment on the amount I smoke, because it doesn't have the "stereotypical" effect on me. This is not a flex in any way, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy, it just is, what it is.
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3.5 grams a day?

How is that possible, is it extremely low quality?

Many methamphetamine users masturbate compulsively, does this not affect you?
 
You get used to it and sleep, but it isn't really good sleep. To get good sleep you have to stop and sleep three days in a row. So, doing nothing.
 
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At a time I was doing this iv roa mixed with some other not so clean h/fet/tranq dude who knows what it was, miss the old times 2010 2012 east coast powder dope but anyways what happens is your mind gets so warped you think your managing and doing fine but your really actually not, especially when your ex partner is speeding too and co signs all your bullshit things can get pretty damn wild thinking your daily use meth maint program is going smoothly but safe y'all sleep and a sandwich never hurt anyone every now and again stay safe homies
 
CalicoCatLover said:
You get used to it and sleep, but it isn't really good sleep. To get good sleep you have to stop and sleep three days in a row. So, doing nothing.
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Horrible and very unsafe as I now learned habit I used to do daily was benzos every night to get some sleep, did this daily for awhile not knowing how bad that is for you, can't believe my benzos habit and come off wasn't as bad as I thought once I cleaned up my act,
 
trndvd said:
Horrible and very unsafe as I now learned habit I used to do daily was benzos every night to get some sleep, did this daily for awhile not knowing how bad that is for you, can't believe my benzos habit and come off wasn't as bad as I thought once I cleaned up my act,
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Ah. My "non benzos" state is naturally being hideous, so I consider the withdrawal of benzos natural as insanity and dangerously unmedicated.
 
JohnBoy2000 said:
3.5 grams a day?

How is that possible, is it extremely low quality?

Many methamphetamine users masturbate compulsively, does this not affect you?
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Tolerance increases quickly I know several people that can smoke an 8ball in one day, smoking is fiendish and even myself I could smoke bowl after bowl and one sitting and it adds up. And yes it is high quality crystal. All Ice is just about the same in quality mainstream. Some batches are better than others but not by much this is your standard cartel meth I'm talking about.
 
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