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How common is it for dealers to narc out buyers after a major bust?

WhOA!! I think you should STFU about the USA my friend.

It’s a shithole run by an Oompa Loompa.

The other side of the coin is humour, bullshit like that you do when you wanna make fun of someone that ain't from ur hood. But the Q is.. how, in my eyes at least can someone bright me up? How could an autistic person sell drugs, leave consumin, sellin? Da fuck?

He was making fun of the country not the individual.

Although to answer your question Asperger and high functioning autistic people can absolutely buy and sell drugs. Especially with the ease of buying them without having to even leave your bedroom nowadays.
 
I do get somehow what are you sain, those locked up may do that cringe shit to break a cab and steal some pills but no other things. Do you know how autistic kids behave? They have control over their thoughts but then they spiral out, loose in every direction and their brain activate some kind of liquid, they can also explode, no shit yet, saw some on a movie, crazy if you think bout it. So how would a sane person sell something to them? It doesnt make sense, end of argument. No worth thinkin.
 
I do get somehow what are you sain, those locked up may do that cringe shit to break a cab and steal some pills but no other things. Do you know how autistic kids behave? They have control over their thoughts but then they spiral out, loose in every direction and their brain activate some kind of liquid, they can also explode, no shit yet, saw some on a movie, crazy if you think bout it. So how would a sane person sell something to them? It doesnt make sense, end of argument. No worth thinkin.

You’re thinking of low functioning autistic people. I specifically said high functioning. Those lot learn social skills and act relatively normal. But even that’s beside the point when you can buy and sell drugs from your computer.
 
A austic kid in germany created one of EUs biggest darknets a while ago at 15 years of age reselling drugs he had hundreds of kgs of drugs at one point til the police raided him.

More and more rich highschool kids are becoming huge drug dealers through the internet through makes a new challenge for courts well america just gives them decades in prision and multiple felony like the shithole it is.

NZ lets them off free pretty much (White privilege and money)

Australia arrested an 18 year old kid the other month with 25k tabs of LSD kid will probably go down for life.
 
It’s a shithole run by an Oompa Loompa.



He was making fun of the country not the individual.

Although to answer your question Asperger and high functioning autistic people can absolutely buy and sell drugs. Especially with the ease of buying them without having to even leave your bedroom nowadays.
Obama doesn't run this place anymore. Someone has to clean up the mess.
But really, you're living in the UK... This shithole happens to help your shithole quite a bit if you weren't aware.
 
Often, a dealer is arrested or busted, and then their communications are watched, if they weren't already, and buyers often start to resort to unsafe methods of communication to get back in contact, for example, forgoing Wickr, Signal, PGP for a plain SMS. That way, the dealer doesn't have to narc.
 
OP I can give you a solid answer to your question but note this is for my location (Australia) It may differ in different parts of the world but that would surprise me.

My answer is based from both personal experience (I was arrested for trafficking a commercial quantity of methamphetamine and MDMA approximately 10 years ago)
Over the years i have also had many friends arrested for similar reasons.

In every single case not once did the Police have any interest what so ever in people down the chain (customers) I saw the ideology "use fish to get larger fish" mentioned on the first page.

On paper yes that seems a reasonable way of thinking but in reality (in real life) Theres massive oversupply of 'small fish'. Theres people geting arrested non stop day and night for low level drug trafficking. There isnt time, reasources or a operational need to go down the drug supply chain.

In my case and all of my friends (approx 5-8 different people probably over time) The detectives charge you with as many offences as possible and then try and bargin with you by:

1. If theres multipal charges droping some of them in return for intelligence on your supplier
OR
2. If its a single charge, say trafficking a commercial quantity of methamphetamine, you may be given a few options such as downgrading from commercial trafficking to trafficking in return for your suppliers name and current number OR downgraded to possession/all charges dropped IF you agree to introduce a undercover officer to your supplier as a friend of yours.

Andy

P.S I don't condone drug dealing what so ever. However I cannot change choices I made a long time ago.
 
Obama doesn't run this place anymore. Someone has to clean up the mess.
But really, you're living in the UK... This shithole happens to help your shithole quite a bit if you weren't aware.

Lol Trump supporter figures.

Yes and we help your shithole quite a bit too. For example Wall Street and the City of London are two of the world's biggest financial centres, the money they're investing is certainly intertwined, and likewise American firms invest in British businesses and vice versa. Our governments work closely together too despite all the media circus that leads the public to believe otherwise.

However we also both rely quite heavily on China. The UK and the US alike. Is that an argument for it being a great country you want to live in? Do you wish you were born a Chinese citizen? I'm guessing not. Just means that for business and political reasons it has importance.

Likewise with America. There are business and political reasons for your nation being useful but that doesn't mean it must be a great country to actually be a citizen of.

P.S. Just to be clear I'm not attacking the people of any of these countries I'm mentioning, rather pointing out that their respective governments don't treat their citizens well. But the thing with Americans is they can't seem to separate one from the other and tend to hold the belief that being American is part of their personal identity. I guess when you're brainwashed from childhood ("I pledge allegiance to the flag..." every morning in every school? It's like a cult) that's gonna happen.
 
@Wilson Wilson The final half of your last paragraph (P.S) hits the nail on the head. I have discussed that exact point with others on at least a couple of occasions.

Its sad seeing from a distance the effect that flag worship and compulsory patriotism from a tiny age results in.
 
Its sad seeing from a distance the effect that flag worship and compulsory patriotism from a tiny age results in.

Yeah for real mate. It's one thing being all patriotic as an adult, but brainwashing kids with a daily ritual like that is honestly fucked up. And they're all raised like that so they don't seem to even question it.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being patriotic per se, but you definitely shouldn't be brainwashed into it for one, and for another thing you shouldn't let pride in your country stop you from constructively criticising it or accepting criticism without feeling as if it's a personal attack.

If someone insults Britain I don't take it personally, but the same can't be said for Yanks. They act like you just insulted their dead mother or something if you say anything even slightly negative about their country.

I've had them get really angry at me multiple times just because I pointed out most US citizens don't have a passport. Which is just a plain fact. They lash out like mad saying "you stupid foreigners don't understand that WE DON'T NEED PASSPORTS because you IDIOTS can't comprehend how BIG America is!!!" And yet Canada is bigger than the USA and the majority of their citizens do have passports... Canadians also tend to be much more friendly in my experience too. And same with you Aussies, your country is huge and yet the majority of you have passports too. Yanks just don't like admitting the stereotype of them believing their own country is the whole world is often an accurate reflection of their attitude (not always, but on average).

Seems to me brainwashing everyone into worshipping the flag is a great way for the government and media to manipulate the population down the line when those kids are old enough to vote. It's obvious from just looking at US politics or watching US news this is exactly what happens. Make something a part of someone's identity and they will take it personally.
 
On paper yes that seems a reasonable way of thinking but in reality (in real life) Theres massive oversupply of 'small fish'. Theres people geting arrested non stop day and night for low level drug trafficking. There isnt time, reasources or a operational need to go down the drug supply chain.
I've found the treatment towards drug arrests varying greatly between the state police departments, and the AFP. Staties much of the time want to arrest their way to some kind of mythical medallion, the AFP seem more measured and seem to target high levels of actual criminality hurting society, even though importing is a Federal crime, small time stuff wil generally get passed down to the state police, if not, the AFP investigate and assess

In my case and all of my friends (approx 5-8 different people probably over time) The detectives charge you with as many offences as possible and then try and bargin with you by:
100% true in my experience. They'll charge you to the brimful, then the morning of a court challenge they'll end up dropping some of it, in some cases, virtually everything, if they hit you with charges based on only circumstantial evidence.[/quote]
 
@c97521d9 Exactly mate! They can be real sneaky and go to court knowing beforehand on the evidence they have they wont be able to meet the standard of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt but will try and make you cop a pre deal
And while doing so, you have to think they know exactly that's what they're doing, scaring someone into copping a punishment for something they are not guilty of out of fear of a worse punishment for a worse crime they didn't commit
 
Lol Trump supporter figures.

Yes and we help your shithole quite a bit too. For example Wall Street and the City of London are two of the world's biggest financial centres, the money they're investing is certainly intertwined, and likewise American firms invest in British businesses and vice versa. Our governments work closely together too despite all the media circus that leads the public to believe otherwise.

However we also both rely quite heavily on China. The UK and the US alike. Is that an argument for it being a great country you want to live in? Do you wish you were born a Chinese citizen? I'm guessing not. Just means that for business and political reasons it has importance.

Likewise with America. There are business and political reasons for your nation being useful but that doesn't mean it must be a great country to actually be a citizen of.

P.S. Just to be clear I'm not attacking the people of any of these countries I'm mentioning, rather pointing out that their respective governments don't treat their citizens well. But the thing with Americans is they can't seem to separate one from the other and tend to hold the belief that being American is part of their personal identity. I guess when you're brainwashed from childhood ("I pledge allegiance to the flag..." every morning in every school? It's like a cult) that's gonna happen.
Yes I am a Trump supporter. There's quite a few of us around. A lot of them don't speak up because they're intimidated maybe... I'm not really sure as to the exact reason, but to a liberal, all conservatives are racist. My own aunt asked me if I was racist when she learned I had voted for Trump. She knows my 2 best friends are black. People automatically hear trump and attach a race issue to him. They (the media) have done this from day 1 with him. It's so old.

When I was in school We used to say the pledge every morning. I'm not sure that happens in all the schools now. What I will say about it is that it is not a bad thing to say. Read what every word means and you'll understand what it is that is being said. Cultish... I don't think so dude.

Things aren't perfect here.. far from it. But I love the country I live in despite it's flaws. can't write anymore here.
 
A lot depends where you are in the US -- there are huge differences in both written policy and actual police/prosecutor enforcement, not only from state to state, but from county to country and even between municipalities within a county (e.g. the big city vs the suburban town), depending on how the state's court system is set up.

Here's an example based on Seattle, Washington.

The state criminal law states that possession of any amount of heroin, meth, or cocaine is a felony, per Washington State law. But the prosecutor's office for King County, which Seattle is in, made it official policy 10 years to prosecute less than 3 grams as a misdemeanor, with possession over that amount usually getting the Drug Court option, ot at least the Drug Offender Sentencing Alternative. As of last year, it is now their policy not to prosecute < 3g possession AT ALL. So this policy holds true for the city of Seattle as well as most of its suburbs, but not in Tacoma which is only 30 miles south.

And for misdemeanors, like shoplifiting to support a drug habit, enforcement/prosecution will look very different in a) Seattle proper and its citywide Municipal Court, b) the larger suburban towns with their own Municipal Courts, c) other areas of the county where it goes to the county District Court. Seattle police introduced their own "diversion" program a few years back, the Seattle City Attorney won't prosecute shoplifting under $50, for example, and the Municipal Court judges are elected by the big-city people alone. Other towns are policed by their own town cops or by county sheriff's deputies, who don't go in for these kind of newfangled approaches, and prosecuted by their own City Attorneys, who might also be harsher, in front of judges elected by suburbanites, who might as well.

Another example, from when I worked in Vermont.

One nearby county was notorious for having harsher sentences than its neighbors and the rest of the state, especially for drugs, as this was in the early stages of the "heroin crisis" there. Oddly, it didn't seem to be a particularly "conservative" county in any other way, it just happened that their county's State's Attorney was especially vindictive. And since the vast majority of cases are resolved with a plea deal, the prosecutor's attitude may end be the most determinative factor in your sentence, regardless of the written law.

But anywhere in Vermont, the same basic offence could get a radically harsher sentence if it happened to be prosecuted in federal court rather than state court -- heroin dealing that might draw a sentence of 1-2 years suspended with 90 days to serve in state court might draw 30 months (85% served) in federal court. Not to mention that federal prosecution allows the death penalty even in states like VT where it doesn't exist.

So if you extrapolate across the country, from Chicago to suburban Dallas to rural South Dakota, you can get a sense of how varied it is in practice. And what a crapshoot it is as to your punishment.
 
d of the free, home of the brave? Sure doesn't sound like this anymore. Especially, cops' attitude towards the people whom they are supposed to protect and serve. They mostly seem to be chosen to be cops based on how much of a scared little bitch they are.
Cops all around the world are usually the last people who should be trusted to protect with weapons or serve. I have dealt with them in a few different countries but they are very similar to each other with the power trip. I don't trust most of them because I have seen many messed up things they did with my own eyes in addition to what we all see on T.V. So, fuck the police.

I think that’s an unfair generalization, but there is still some truth there. There are plenty of cops who truly want to be serving their community, and who are perfectly good people, great even. A good friend of mine grew up to become a cop... he’s an amazing guy. And he did it because he wanted to try to be a good cop, because he’d seen some fucked up ones through his life. I have personally had to deal with cops for breaking the law and I have always felt respected except once ( that cop was a fucking cunt). There are a lot of good people filling a needed role in society. The problem is that the position also attracts the sociopathic bully types is disproportionate numbers. You hear about those ones in the news, but you don’t hear about the good guys who are putting their lives on the line for people they don’t know and many of whom automatically hate them.

There is. Certainly there is a police culture and behavior problem in America, but I don’t think it’s fair at all when people lump all cops in with the scum bag douche bags who make it on the news.

Although to answer your question Asperger and high functioning autistic people can absolutely buy and sell drugs.

Yeah, Aspergers is the lightest end of the autism spectrum , they are typically quite intelligent and as high functioning as anyone else, but with difficulty socially and sometimes emotionally. I have been close with several people with Aspergers and was in a band with one... he has some serious emotional problems and difficulty seeing things from other people’s perspectives, but he’s a smart guy who gets by in the world on his own and is a fantastically talented musician.

you shouldn't let pride in your country stop you from constructively criticising it or accepting criticism without feeling as if it's a personal attack.

Agreed fully(as an American). It is very important, in fact patriotic, to criticize and accept the shortcomings of how your country is operating, in order to have a successful democracy. The right to protest and dissent is a fundamental right and in fact the most important patriotic duty for an American (or anyone from any country). Failure to accept when something is wrong is the road to fascism. You have to be critical and accept criticism without reacting in anger. Anger is just hiding fear. That’s what anger is.

Canadians also tend to be much more friendly in my experience too.

Well Canadians are well known to be incredibly friendly. But a lot of Americans are very friendly too, it just depends on where you live. I live in Appalachia, and people here, by and large, are great. Where I live, I look everyone I come across in the eye and there is greeting and acknowledgement and often greeting, sometimes we get to talking about something. But if you go to any big cities or some areas in America and you will find some rude and self centered people.

but to a liberal, all conservatives are racist. My own aunt asked me if I was racist when she learned I had voted for Trump. She knows my 2 best friends are black.

“All liberals think trump supporters are racist” is itself a bigoted statement. It’s not true. I identify as “liberal” (but I form my own beliefs and am not registered with either political party), and I don’t think all trump supporters are racist. I don’t even think trump is particularly racist, maybe not even at all, he’s just pandering to his base. Many of whom fell victim to fearmongering about illegal immigrants. And many trump supporters, I understand, support him for other reasons. My aunt is a supporter. She says she doesn’t like him personally at all and thinks he’s a pretty sketchy dude, but she cares more about abortion than anything else ( she is evangelical Christian ). She’s a great person.

I don’t support trump for many reasons, mostly because of his policies against the environment (which affects a whole lot more than global warming). Some other things too, but that’s my main concern. It’s perfectly valid for me to voice this concern I have about the leadership of our county. That’s the entire point of democracy. If we’re not allowed to say anything bad about our country, then we’re lookjng a lot like china, aren’t we?

Things aren't perfect here.. far from it. But I love the country I live in despite it's flaws.

I absolutely agree, I love the USA, I was born here and it’s my home. But I still resent what’s going on, the rabid partisanship most of all. It distracts us from the fact that almost all of our elected officials are trying to turn us into a peasant working class, and they’re all in bed with the corporations.

But the prosecutor's office for King County, which Seattle is in, made it official policy 10 years to prosecute less than 3 grams as a misdemeanor, with possession over that amount usually getting the Drug Court option, ot at least the Drug Offender Sentencing Alternative. As of last year, it is now their policy not to prosecute < 3g possession AT ALL. So this policy holds true for the city of Seattle as well as most of its suburbs, but not in Tacoma which is only 30 miles south.

Yeah, Location/jurisdiction matters a lot in the US for sure
 
I agree with you on the subject that there are many others who are good cops but they should be the first people to weed out the ones whom must not be trusted with doing the police work, let alone carrying a weapon.
You hear about those ones in the news, but you don’t hear about the good guys who are putting their lives on the line for people they don’t know and many of whom automatically hate them.
This is something that I hear all the time but it doesn't make much sense to me.
These people decide to be a police officer and once they decide that, they accept the possibility of getting in risky situations. It's not an aspect of the job which they weren't aware of.
For the job the do, they get paid, get respected by the majority of the public and they are allowed to do many things (carrying a weapon, accessing personal information of others, ...) that the rest of the society are forbid to do.
I don't understand why they are hailed as heroes when they do their job well either. I don't know of any sanitation worker being called a hero when they do their job well.
I don't think that people shall feel in debt because the job these people have chosen sometimes requires to take risks.
 
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