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How can I deepen my next Salvia experience?

LogicSoDeveloped

LogicSoDeveloped

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I have about a bowl left of 40x "Purply Sticky Salvia." I've experienced it a few times. The trips have been strange and funny, however, they don't seem very meaningful to me. Each time I've seen and felt very basic, funny visuals and thoughts. With one experience, I thought I was in a Swedish dance club dancing with Basshunter. I'd like something a bit more deep. What can I do?
 
Combine it with other psychedelics or dissociatives, but only if you're already comfortable with using them on their own.
 
LSD will enhance and deepen salvia, make it have more depth meaning and coherence, at least it always has for me. Probably any psychedelic will work, but I can report LSD had an exquisitely synergistic effect... almost as if the Salvia high knows something and is going "Oh yea, I can really use this!" if that makes any sense.
 
Ummm... I dunno... are you usually afraid of sweat?

You should not be... maybe you are really an Indian long ago in a sweat lodge and you have eaten some Peyote your shaman has given you.

Last time I did this combo the salvia smoke was really sage smoke mixed with magical herb that Shaman, leaning over me was blowing into my mouth, trying his best to awaken me from a Vision Quest dream whose grip I had fallen far far too strongly under... for a few moments I recognized him through the swirling smoke and the teepee I lay on the hard ground next to, and I remembered my entire life with my plains people, and I remembered that I had just gotten stuck in some terrible nightmare about a strange future where my people were all slaughtered and Mother Earth was over run by awful mean violent people of a thousand different tribes all fighting each other and raping the earth.. I heard great very old very wise ocean teachers called "whales" singing to me, but I could understand them, singing a warning that the Sun had sung to them about how the overtakers were about to kill everything everywhere with their excess and selfishness and they were all hypnotised by these strange glowing flat pieces of slate that had moving pictures on them.... But Shaman's smoke magic was not strong enough and I got sucked back down into this terrible nightmare we call USA 2010, and here I am again! I sure hope Shaman tries again to wake me up back to my real life, and I will warn them of this horrible future where the Earth Mother and all her people and animal children are fighting and crying all the time. I long for that day. TIll then I will try to help you awaken from YOUR too-strong future vision-dreams from here on the inside! Join me, won't you?
 
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my deepest salvia trip was with a combination of a 1500mg DXM trip... broke through, was concious the whole trip through, not the usual pass out and come back 5 minutes later after breaking through not remembering much, but actually seeing everything, moving around (Be it my head as I layed in my bed) and watch the visuals around me...

It was in the dark, candle lit room... I set my pipe up on the tablestand in a way so that after I finished inhaling It wouldn't fall over and light anything on fire ;)

be careful about this^ I made every precaution so that this wouldn't happen, that could send you to the firey depths of hell haha pun intended..

Also being alone is key to the deep trip, and in silence, or ambient-psychedelic music, though it will drain out and be gone till you come back..
 
I find salvia effects vary both on surroundings ^^ and on how it is burnt...
I firsst tried through ya plain jayne pipe which gave me medium effects!!! but once smoked through a waterpipe (bong) i noticed much stronger effects.
How did you smoke your sally??
 
I don't think you can really control the direction of a dissociative OBE that much, but even those experiences that don't seem very deep can be learnt from, so instead of trying to shift the course of the trip, maybe shift your focus a little and see what you can learn.

If you want to try something new though, trip with a friend, dissociatives often produce shared trips and OBEs, or even telepathy, so sharing dissociative trips can often be very interesting.
 
Read a ton of salvia trips and then smoke your salvia. Power of suggestion is a powerful thing.
 
How about using 2C-D with it,apparently it goes very well with other psychedelics,it has been referred to as being just for this.
 
you can try sublingual application of salvia (the traditional method is to use whole leaves rolled into a quid and chewed in the cheek)... i'm sure the 40X will work just fine dipped under the tongue. it provides a longer-lasting spiritual contact phase, instead of the spaceship-like ride that smoked will give you.
 
greenmeanies said:
you can try sublingual application of salvia (the traditional method is to use whole leaves rolled into a quid and chewed in the cheek)... i'm sure the 40X will work just fine dipped under the tongue. it provides a longer-lasting spiritual contact phase, instead of the spaceship-like ride that smoked will give you.
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I was gonna suggest that... 40x seems potent enough to work sublingual.

You might want to do as Daniel Siebert suggests prior to using his Emerald Essence extract... swish for a minute first with a mouthwash containing both alcohol and menthol (e.g., Listerine & generic equivalents) which both enhance uptake via membranes in the mouth.

I totally agree with above that oral absorption experiences are FAR longer lasting as well as deeper and not as hard to understand and remember as the "letting go of a balloon" type experience of smoking it... after all, it was absorption via the mouth that the original native Shamen who discovered it were using... NOT smoking!
 
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