Jesus.
23536;11717473 said:I didn't know Kurt Cobain had escaped a detox shortly before shooting himself. That was before suboxone, so I guess everything was cold turkey.
Do a lot of detoxes still force you to withdraw without suboxone?
If we don’t want to keep losing patients, we’ve got to actually treat addiction like a disease, by providing evidence-based treatment, not just repeating faith-based philosophies.
qftdrug_mentor;11717198 said:I would also like to say that some of the things described in those 'troubled teen programs' are fucking horrible and I can't believe that shit went on so recently. Is that shit honestly legal? Assuming not I hope there is some follow up on these claims that places are making people scrub toilets with their own toothbrushes and being made to dress in drag, that is some messed up shit and someone should put a stop to it immediately.
23536;11717473 said:I didn't know Kurt Cobain had escaped a detox shortly before shooting himself. That was before suboxone, so I guess everything was cold turkey.
Do a lot of detoxes still force you to withdraw without suboxone?
sicboy2;11722419 said:Actually, as reported by a reputable journalist in his biography on Cobain, Kurt was supplied with daily doses of buprenorphine dating back to 1992 by a Los Angelos physician Robert Freemont.
undead;11723509 said:^ You missed the point of the entire article. It doesn't say that drug detox/treatment killed Cory Monteith, it essentially says (and I'm paraphrasing) that they certainly didn't help. The point is... these programs that are set up to help people shouldn't be focusing on the morality of drug use, they should be focused on the desire to help people get clean by any means necessary, provided they have the resources.
Droppersneck;11725725 said:Wow good read. That guy should on no way be mentioned with Kurt on a talent level but I digress. I quit a 5 year opiate addiction with out ever setting foot in a rehab or being prescribed maintenance drugs so it is possible though I do not recommend it. Everyone is different imo.
All this being said; there is no way this poor guy from that gay show was 30+ years old using drugs for many many years and was not aware or used subs/methadone. This shit happens all the time.
Mr.Scagnatti said:Yeah I don't know a single person who stayed clean after being ambushed by an intervention or being forced to go into treatment. As a matter of fact, a lot of people I know, including myself, not only didn't get clean after but often got even worse.