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Hotrailing black tar

enkephalin

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seattle
Hey -

I was curious as to how efficient "hotrailing" (putting a small chunk, say .05 grams on a spoon with a few drops of water and putting a flame under the spoon until the heroin was dissolved in the water then snorting it) was? When I do this I notice some smoke burns off and I dont know if this is steam or heroin getting wasted. Also, how efficient is eating or putting a small piece under your tongue compared to smoking it? IVing is something I definately don't want to dabble in. Thanks.
 
sounds to me like you are completly wasting your dope, the whole point of cooking it in a spoon is so it can disolve for injection. Eating heroin is THE biggest waste of dope, it is a far less efficent way of using heroin then any other method. dont even bother using dope if you're going to try these ridiclious methods of administration.
 
1.) 0.5 grams is not really a small amount of heroin

2.) although it depends on the consistency of the heroin, i dont think hotrailing would be very effective in any case (powder, tar etc..).

3) if you have disposible money that u feel like wasting, then try it....otherwise id stick to snorting, which is still a waste in itself.
 
...he said ".05 grams", though, which is a pretty small amount...
Definitely don't eat it...big waste...snort, smoke, plug, shoot, but don't eat (unless you have a lot of money to waste chasing a high)...:\
 
Thanks for the advice, and also what would be the best way to convert black tar heroin into a snortable form?
 
i dont know the exact process but im pretty sure that end product the your snorting up is a gooey mess. Search it.
 
"hotrailing" is snorting heated powder (smoke), not eating anything. and im pretty damn sure you can't hotrail black tar.

if you aren't gonna shoot it (the only practical thing to do with TAR) then smoke it.

you can prepare it like you are going to shoot it then just shoot the liquid up your nose, but really, tar isn't meant for that.

and .5 or .05 are both pretty damn small amounts of tar
 
Depends on your tolerance.

People can stand to shoot 3 grams, but on the other side of the spectrum, people can nod off on .01 grams of tar.
 
In my country 85% of the heroin users (got statistic from drug pamphlet) smoke their heroin on tin foil "chasing" the dragon style. Is this the same as hotrailing?(if you inhale the vapors through your nose it still gets into your lungs right ? I smoked from a joint through my nose when in a weird weed induced mood, not really different)
Also in the netherlands heroin is actually called brown does that mean it's the same as tar? Or maybe this doesn't matter as long as you can melt it?
 
I still wouldn't call a half gram of heroin a "damn small amount" either, no matter my tolerance. If a half gram of decent heroin doesn't put me where I want, then, rather, I'd call my habit quite large.

I've got a question...it'll probably show my age, but...;)
...when you guys/gals talk about "doing 3 bags", etc., are you talking about like 3, 1/4 grams, or are you talking about 3 "full" bags (as in 3 grams)?
Just wondering, because if it's the latter, you're either getting some (practically) bunk dope, or you do indeed have an astronomical tolerance... 8o

FWIW, 1/3-1/2 gram(s)-all at once (IV)- of good stuff, and I'm nodding (almost non-functional)...:|
 
3 Bags generally means 3 Points or .1 Gram per bag for a total of .3 grams.

At least that's the way it is in the NE USA.

A .5 gram of white dope is a lot. I'm glad we don't have tar around these parts if .5 grams is a tiny amount.
 
^^ No, that's not the same as hot-railing...that's just, well...chasing the dragon...;)

Anyway, the brown you guys get in Europe, is probably the (is it No.3..?) brown base heroin...tar is a low-grade (sometimes), blackish (usually), impure (most of the time) tarlike substance, that is kind of like "resin-ish", though a little more on the brown side. I also added all the parentheses in the above statement because I've also seen some pretty fine tar, though (usually more amber and translucent)...:\
 
one "bag" of tar is 1/4 a gram about, in seattle. so 1/2 gram isn't much for anyone who uses on a semi-regular basis.

if you have never used before, then maybe its a lot. also, if you are smoking it .5 grams isn't that much.
 
i doubt that there are a ton of people on here that shoot .5g of heroin in one shot. i do, but i know plenty of junkies who don't go that big. it's a huge shot, so don't kid anyone.

smoking is a whole different story. i don't know if i would catch a buzz from smoking .5g of heroin. but, it's probably because i don't have the best method in the world for smoking.

but, still, .5g in one 1cc rig, done in a single shot, would take down plenty of semi-regular users.

.05g ain't much at all tho.
 
Hot railing is when you snort something that's somehow heated. Generally, using a very warm/hot glass straw, then snorting the substance using that.
 
If a first time user is gonna chase the dragon on a $3 bag of mexican tar, is this enough for him to catch a buzz?
 
uumpaloompa said:
the idea of hotrailing tar makes me want to vomit

Why? Smoking it is just a waste and I enjoyed the drip. Sure it feels great to IV but not everyone likes the idea of themselves shooting up.
 
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