Opioids Horrible vicodin/percocet habit.

[pharmaecopia]

I am horribly addicted to opiates. mainly vicodin and percocet, I go back and forth between the two, they seem interchangeable with the slight reward of actually getting high when I first switch it up. I eat/snort on average 90-120 mg of hydrocodone a day right now and I don't even get high I just feel normal. Besides the fact that its burning a hole in my wallet, I figure I also intake around 8000mg-10,000 mg of tylenol a day with it depending on the tylenol content, but anyways, I know eventually I am going to destroy my kidneys and liver with the, and eventually there will be a day in which I am going to be unable to get them and get horribly dope sick. I would like to quit or cut back to the point where I don't do it every day. I've Tried taking seroquel so that I cant take any vicodin but that results in me sleeping for 9 hours and wasting my entire day, then waking up and eating/ snorting 5-6 10 milligram vicodin anyways, any suggestions on how to taper off or perhaps if I could quit if I replaces my dosages of opiate pills with large doses of benzos instead, I mean I am hopelessly hooked on those so maybe if I take a whole bunch of those I can cut back on opiates, soo any one got any ideas or experiences to share with me?

 

[TheLostBoys]

You shouldnt be snorting vicodin or percocets & if your taking that much tylenol a day, why arent you doing a cold water extraction?

 

[TheLostBoys]

You taper off of percs & vicodin by taking less & less every day until you get down to a very small amount.

 

[pharmaecopia]

how do I do a cold water extraction I dunno how to

/ I heard the tylenol helps intensify opiates effects is that true

 

[theredbaron]

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=272847

There you go buddy, that should help.

 

[ExSaint1379]

Another solution is just to find oxycontin. I like the high a lot more, and there is no acetaminophen in it. But I'd say it'd be better to kick the stuff. I've never been addicted to them, and I don't quite like the idea of being addicted.

 

[rocksonboxone]

Tylenol actually just makes you feel sick in high doses. Save your liver and just do the cold water extraction. I seriously dont understand how people can take that much acetaminophen and not be dead yet.
You are better off IVing heroin than you would be to take all of that tylenol...

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

how the hell do you snort that much powder?? with the percs just take them orally the bioavailability of oxycodone is very high orally and since you're snorting with a bunch of APAP(tylenol) a lot of it isn't getting absorbed by your mucous membranes in your nose anyways... i guarantee you that you will get a better high if the percs are taken orally. and with all that APAP i also suggest CWE's.. no comment about the snorting of hydrocodone.
And like someone else said, find oxycontin or roxicodone (both have no APAP) if you are going to snort them. those(vics and percs) are just 2 pills that are deff for oral admin.

 

[pharmaecopia]

I tried cold water extraction and used a t-shirt for a filter, I used 5 vicodin 5/500's when I was done there didnt seem to be much powder/paste left in the t-shirt filter, i scraped it out and rolled it up and it looks like 1-2 pills worth of powder... im fucked up but did I not filter ir good enough ?? or is it normal to have a small amount of powder left?

 

[rocksonboxone]

Use a coffee filter, and make sure that you let the solution rest for a while in the cold water to allow the APAP to precipitate to the bottom of your container...

 

[Voxide]

/ I heard the tylenol helps intensify opiates effects is that true

.......Lol. The only thing acetaminophen will intensify is the liver damage you're most likely already getting anyway. If you insist on still using, get the tylenol out of there asap.

 

[jamesBrown]

Yea there are alot of things I don't understand about what your doing here OP...

Why snort hydrocodone??......there is such a TINY amount of actual drug mixed in with each pill that its pretty much a waste to try to snort some(let alone 10!!! pills) to try and absorb the hydrocodone through the walls of your nose....there would be no surface area left in your nose after snorting half of a pill so the rest that you snort wouldnt be absorbed properly.
And it just plain fucking hurts.....it also takes about 2 minutes of research online to discover that snorting vicodin is pointless.

Also...there are SEVERAL places online where they post the correct way to perform a CWE. It wouldnt be hard to look it up....so why not do that a long time ago before probably permanently damaging your liver???

I really don't mean to be rude...but are you misinformed on how to properly ingest hydrocodone mixed with APAP?....did you just never have anyone to tell you better???....or do you simply just not have the brainpower to make these connections and truly understand what your doing to yourself?? Sry if that was mean but Im grasping for explanations as to why someone would do this to themselves....the correct information is out there, you just have to take 2 minutes and look for it....that could save your liver and your life.

You seem to have chosen to be ignorant of what your doing to yourself....and for that, I think it would be understandable for people to just leave you be and let whatever is gonna happen to you, happen. But I feel the need, in the interest of harm reduction, to do otherwise. BEFORE YOU TAKE A DRUG RESEARCH IT AND KNOW THE PROPER WAY TO INGEST IT AND HOW NOT TO INGEST IT. THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE I PROMISE YOU. WHEN I STARTED USING HYDROCODONE AT THE AGE OF 16 I SPENT 5 MINUTES ON THE WEB AND ENEDED UP KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE PROPER USE OF HYDROCODONE THAN YOU DO NOW.

 

[drugssexandmusic]

.......Lol. The only thing acetaminophen will intensify is the liver damage you're most likely already getting anyway. If you insist on still using, get the tylenol out of there asap.

That's not entirely untrue acutely the reason why they add acetaminophen to Opiates making products like Co-codamol [x amount Codeine with 500mg acetaminophen] is because it enhances the analgesic [painkilling] effects but it will not effect the high [euphoria warmness etc].

But anyway pharmaecopia dude stop that shit your gonna kill yourself, cold water extract that shit or switch to another Opiate or better yet just quit.
In any case go to your family doctor and get your health checked out a-sap.

 

[mario323213]

wats up man this is what i do:
you can call it switching addiction or whatever but i do xanax for some time then switch to perks then alcohol or whatever you want that way your tolerance stays low resulting in less money used...even though i love opiates the most so when im on anything else im STILL thinking about them!

 

[Voxide]

That's not entirely untrue acutely the reason why they add acetaminophen to Opiates making products like Co-codamol [x amount Codeine with 500mg acetaminophen] is because it enhances the analgesic [painkilling] effects but it will not effect the high [euphoria warmness etc].

But anyway pharmaecopia dude stop that shit your gonna kill yourself, cold water extract that shit or switch to another Opiate or better yet just quit.
In any case go to your family doctor and get your health checked out a-sap.

Well, of course acetaminophen can assist in painkilling, but the OP obviously doesn't have a medical condition which would warrant the need to kill physical pain. In this case, the acetaminophen is doing nothing but putting an extra strain on the liver.

 

[drugssexandmusic]

Well, of course acetaminophen can assist in painkilling, but the OP obviously doesn't have a medical condition which would warrant the need to kill physical pain. In this case, the acetaminophen is doing nothing but putting an extra strain on the liver.

Duh... I knew that he isn't using Vicodin for Psychical pain I was just correcting you on your mindless notion that acetaminophen only wreaks your liver, when its a great NSAID on its own but also when combined with an Opioid it also potensionates the analgesic effects.

Also he seemed to think that the acetaminophen was making his high greater you implied it didn't but didn't explain why so I did... rant\.

 

[volp]

ugh, do not snort anything with apap in it. And stop taking that much apap in a day! 4g is the max daily safe dose, and for some people that isn't even healthy.

CWE if you have to stay on these drugs, otherwise try to taper if you have that type of willpower.

Good luck

 

[HeroinGoblin]

Id just grab some benzos (ativan or kpins) n immodium ad and kick that junk. Youre taking DOUBLE the apap that should be consumed over 24 hours. JESUS

 

[Voxide]

Duh... I knew that he isn't using Vicodin for Psychical pain I was just correcting you on your mindless notion that acetaminophen only wreaks your liver, when its a great NSAID on its own but also when combined with an Opioid it also potensionates the analgesic effects.

Also he seemed to think that the acetaminophen was making his high greater you implied it didn't but didn't explain why so I did... rant\.

......relax. All you did is simply elaborate on what I was saying. You didn't "correct" anything.

If he isn't using it for physical pain, what does he need analgesia for? For the purpose he is using it, tylenol is useless. It does more harm than good. You said it yourself: It doesn't effect the high. The toxic effects can be found with a simple google search. If he's willing to dump chemicals into his body without research, he deserves all the damage he gets. End of story.

 

[drugssexandmusic]

......relax. All you did is simply elaborate on what I was saying. You didn't "correct" anything.

If he isn't using it for physical pain, what does he need analgesia for? For the purpose he is using it, tylenol is useless. It does more harm than good. You said it yourself: It doesn't effect the high. The toxic effects can be found with a simple google search. If he's willing to dump chemicals into his body without research, he deserves all the damage he gets. End of story.

He doesn't need it for analgesia but maybe he would like to know the whole picture and maybe the people reading this thread would like a clear understanding of how it effects Opiates and how they can apply it to themselves.

You didn't say anything you gave a remark that it fucks up your liver but you didn't explain why. So reading it all your post looks like is you have just given your personal opinion not something based on evidence.

Maybe the reason he's dumping Vicodin into his body is because he's addicted, so take your judgemental attitude and nasty jabs at him somewhere else, bluelight is a harm reduction site not a place to beat on people.