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Heroin Homebake anyone?

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Do you have any experience with chemistry?

Sorry if I sound like a dick, but I think your better off just going out and buying heroin. There is a reason why you don't hear about home-made heroin too-because its not easy. In the US certain ingredients are not available to the general public (unlike methamphetamine, which can practically be produced with whatever you might find in the trunk of your car). To the person who mentioned pod tea, it's funny because there was actually a pretty simple (as well as shitty and dangerous) 'home bake' synthesis practiced in Poland much like Krokodil called 'compote', which is kind of like making a glorified pod tea. The final product in compote does include Diacetylmorphine (heroin), but it also has a bunch of codeine, other alkaloids and plant matter, making it not suitable for injection (not that people didn't still do it).
 
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If you have codeine then I think the homebake method makes morphine, not heroin. It's when you have morphine that it's possible to make the homebake heroin. We can't discuss how to though.

Edit: Looks like it's easy enough to make the heroin from the morphine you get from the codeine. It's getting the morphine from the codeine that is the hard part.
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homebake gets around australia but mainly new zealand around our parts. it's usually a morphine to H synth. and usually pretty crude too. i certainly wouldn't go touching it anyway and i've shot some shocking homebaked meth from these parts

it's not a very hard process at all really, it's just getting the AA which can be tricky.
 
yeah wish i could go morphine to h but no poppy pod or seeds anymore. I'm really just trying this for fun. I don't have advanced organic chemistry experience but i can learn very quickly and efficiently. I am an opiophile already and they do have good info. Just tryin to see if anyone here has done it from codeine, fuck if i can't do heroin then i'll find something else to make it into. Worst comes to worst i have codeine powder to cap up and take without apap!

thanks everyone for the help

is AA and pyridine hard to get in Canada? in general, no specifics please

@znegative: i have a severe opiate problem i dont need to buy heroin, there are dillies all over the streets, i'm just doing this as an experiment and for fun.
 
"Homebake" heroin via pyridine/acetic anhydride is a real bastard to get.

Firstly pyridine, acetic anhydride, & some other reagents are toxic & corrosive (pyridine in particular smells like extract of dead fish). Secondly the reaction codeine-->morphine is only ~30% yielding at best, (0% at worst) or something and does not scale up beyond test tube size. Word is it's also a real black art that needs to be taught and is not particularly easy to do. Third acetic anhydride is heavily controlled.

morphinee->heroin can be done by any idiot with some acetic anhydride/acetyl chloride and a 15 min gentl reflux with a drop of pyridine/dmap

There have been other routes discussed but they are way out of the lreague of the amateur chemist.
 
in case anyone is wondering, i've got my extract, haven't tested yield yet but should be a lot less than the 2g i started with oh well. I think it was a failure, the microwave must have got codeine everywhere because i could smell it and had to clean up the mess.

I guess i should try from morphine to heroin for fun. Any other fun extractions that are easy for learning chemistry? besides DMT

well turns out my yield was 1.7 grams out of 2 grams originally, not bad but there is still some water in it, still not bad for a first time. i'm about to do a bio assay of 100mg and see how it goes
 
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how do you know your extract is good? that could be 1.7g of anything, not necessarily codeine, it's not like you've analysed your results with any scientific thoroughness, an ability to learn quickly means nothing, most of the people who have chemistry degree's can "learn quickly" but that doesn't mean they are good chemists until they have studied it for years.
 
Znegative said:
Do you have any experience with chemistry?

Sorry if I sound like a dick, but I think your better off just going out and buying heroin. There is a reason why you don't hear about home-made heroin too-because its not easy. In the US certain ingredients are not available to the general public (unlike methamphetamine, which can practically be produced with whatever you might find in the trunk of your car). To the person who mentioned pod tea, it's funny because there was actually a pretty simple (as well as shitty and dangerous) 'home bake' synthesis practiced in Poland much like Krokodil called 'compote', which is kind of like making a glorified pod tea. The final product in compote does include Diacetylmorphine (heroin), but it also has a bunch of codeine, other alkaloids and plant matter, making it not suitable for injection (not that people didn't still do it).
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this!!!

sekio said:
"Homebake" heroin via pyridine/acetic anhydride is a real bastard to get.

Firstly pyridine, acetic anhydride, & some other reagents are toxic & corrosive (pyridine in particular smells like extract of dead fish). Secondly the reaction codeine-->morphine is only ~30% yielding at best, (0% at worst) or something and does not scale up beyond test tube size. Word is it's also a real black art that needs to be taught and is not particularly easy to do. Third acetic anhydride is heavily controlled.

morphinee->heroin can be done by any idiot with some acetic anhydride/acetyl chloride and a 15 min gentl reflux with a drop of pyridine/dmap

There have been other routes discussed but they are way out of the lreague of the amateur chemist.
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this too, good post
 
i know i'm no chemist lol but this was a simple water extraction. I posted that i didn't get 1.7g yield as there was still some water in there but i definitely got over a gram. What else could be in there? a little bit of apap? maybe but i can bet it's almost pure codeine.

250mg produced expected opiate effects.

don't be jerk bags i'm just trying to learn and have fun, not be an organic chemist.
 
It is my opinion that this thread goes against the principles of Other Drugs, and will be closed until further noticed.

The way I see it, we don't allow the discussion of amphetamine --> methamphetamine, so I fail to see how codeine --> morphine --> heroin, etc, is any different.

I'm sure others disagree, so if you want to defend this threads closure, direct messages towards my inbox.

There are plenty of other places where this type of discussion can take place, I have no objection to the actual subject matter at hand, it just can't take place here.

Basic extractions and purification methods are fine, but I draw the line at synthesis.
 
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