high testosterone high e2? no libido or wood

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Hi, I am 47yrs old and am on trt
100mg test-e split 50mg Mon and 50mg Thurs
Hcg 250iu Mon and 250iu Thurs
0.25mg Arimadex Mon and 0.25mg Thurs

When I started the TRT 3 months ago my

S Test was 9.2 nmol/L range 9.9-27
free test was 193 pmol/L range 170-670
SHGB was 22 nmol/L range 15-40
S Oestradiol 169 pmol/L range <160

My recent test are

S Test 38 nmol/L range 9.9-27
Free test 870 pmol/L range 170-670
SHGB 37nmol/L range 15-40
S Oestradiol 109 pmol/L range <160

I am doing the TRT myself as the doctor felt that my test levels were fine and did not warrant any further consideration, even though I had no libido,rem or morning wood and could not get it up without a hell of alot of trying and then it just went soft very quickly. i had no real energy and the list goes on.

I now have good energy and my strength is good I can work all day and go to the gym 5 days per week doing 3 days weights and 2 days for cardio my weight has dropped by 20kg and my BF% is down from 42% to 22% and my diet is very clean. I do-not or have not done AAS and am not a body builder, but I do love to work out for strength and BF%, and my ultimate goal is to get to 6-10% BF and am having a Dexa scan done every 6-8 weeks to keep me on track.

So my problem is that even though I have good results with the TRT protocol and at the start for about 6-8 weeks I had rem and morning wood and the libido was fantastic, now my libido is wanning and I have all but lost the morning wood and rem wood is gone completley. I can still get a hard on with the right encouragement, but honestley it's an effort to keep it up and cumming can take forever.

Can anyone here help me out with this, I belive that Estrogen is still to high and would like to see it at 70pmol/L is that correct? I think that SHGB is abit high also and would like to see it fall into the same range as the Estrogen, but don't know how to acheive this, I have a notion that as Estrogen falls so will the SHGB as that is what the bloods are telling me is this correct?

I don't understand what's happening and I live in a small community with only one doctor who for me is about as useless as tit's on a bull and all of my research is just getting me more confused, i feel the TRT protocol is a good one, but what's happening now with the erection and libido I can not understand, maybey the testosterone is binding to SHGB, but my free test does not support this, is this correct? I know the AI is helping to stop Aromatase, but what about the Estrogen before that, does it take time to clear? I doubt that I have crashed my E2 has the bloods don't support this, is this correct?

Sorry guys for the long post and I hope I have not confused you all, but I am a total newbie at this, not sure if I even posted this in the right spot, if anyone out there who know's about this shit could help I would be very grateful.
Thankyou.
 
What 47 year old goes on TRT with Testosterone Etanthate bought illegally, injects 50mg twice a week with a syringe and throws HCG and Armidex into the mix and then worries about their body fat? Knows about armotase? Seriously. Don't bull shit a bullshitter. You got on cycle and you fucked up.

Now that we have that clear... If you have low Testosterone all you need is 100mg-150mg of Test E injected once a week without any other stuff. That's TRT dosages. Bodybuilding dosages are 500mg and up once a week which sometimes requires Armidex once a day or every other day depending on sensitivity to estrogen your bodies tendency to convert testosterone to estrogen. Some people need it at that dose, some don't at all, others need a different dose.

With such a low dose of Testosterone in conjuction with Armidex you are probably lowering your estrogen levels to the point of effecting your libido. You do need some estrogen for your libido to function normally. And fucking HCG with such a low dose of Test? A fucking waste and will only ruin your LH receptors.

In the future please spare us the fucking bullshit and if you are going to run a cycle read the Starter Cycle Thread.
 
What 47 year old goes on TRT with Testosterone Etanthate bought illegally, injects 50mg twice a week with a syringe and throws HCG and Armidex into the mix and then worries about their body fat? Knows about armotase? Seriously. Don't bull shit a bullshitter. You got on cycle and you fucked up.

Now that we have that clear... If you have low Testosterone all you need is 100mg-150mg of Test E injected once a week without any other stuff. That's TRT dosages. Bodybuilding dosages are 500mg and up once a week which sometimes requires Armidex once a day or every other day depending on sensitivity to estrogen your bodies tendency to convert testosterone to estrogen. Some people need it at that dose, some don't at all, others need a different dose.

With such a low dose of Testosterone in conjuction with Armidex you are probably lowering your estrogen levels to the point of effecting your libido. You do need some estrogen for your libido to function normally. And fucking HCG with such a low dose of Test? A fucking waste and will only ruin your LH receptors.

In the future please spare us the fucking bullshit and if you are going to run a cycle read the Starter Cycle Thread.
Mate I appriciate your honesty, but this does not help me, I am not a body builder, I know about aromatse, hpta, shgb, serms, sarms and the rest of it, to a point. I did all the reseaerch on that stuff ages ago because i was interested in steroids, but mate I have not cycled.

I have been trying for ages to get a doctor to help with my test levels, I have the results that date back and show a steady decline in TT from 22 to 9, if you re-read the post you will see that my estrogen was to high and still is, this needs to come down to 82pmol to hit the wseetspot I learnt this onlt last night doing some research, 82/109=22pg that is the sweet spot for most. 0.25mg of Adex is done by so many in the TRT world now and HCG at 250-500iu 2x week is also the norm, spreading test-e or test-c into 2 smaller 50mg doses is prefered by many as it keeps levels even, although for some 100-150 every 5 days works as well.

I am sorry if u feel I am a bullshitter but I can see whu you feel that way, I uped the ADEX to .5mg last night and awoke with morning wood I have learnt through some more research on another site that it is most likely the estrogen that is to high and that learning how to control this is important as you don't as you say want to go to low.

I am on the right track with the estrogen i know this now as I have the bloodwork to prove it I don't know how you can see that my levels may be to low they are not and the last bloods were only done last week. It fucking pisses me off that as an obvious long term member who knows his shit when it comes to steroids and thier cycling that you can not understand my levels, sorry again if you feel I am a bullshiter, i guess u will tell me to fuck off like you do others, I have read some of your posts, you are honest I will give you that.

If I do do a cycle in the future, then if u have not told me to fuck off by then, my friend you will be the first port of call.

thanks for your response.



PS Guido, mate if you saw photos of me, you would see Im not bullshittin, just by looking at em you would see Im no BB and have not cycled, this is a genuine case.
 
Mate I appriciate your honesty, but this does not help me, I am not a body builder, I know about aromatse, hpta, shgb, serms, sarms and the rest of it, to a point. I did all the reseaerch on that stuff ages ago because i was interested in steroids, but mate I have not cycled.

I have been trying for ages to get a doctor to help with my test levels, I have the results that date back and show a steady decline in TT from 22 to 9, if you re-read the post you will see that my estrogen was to high and still is, this needs to come down to 82pmol to hit the wseetspot I learnt this onlt last night doing some research, 82/109=22pg that is the sweet spot for most. 0.25mg of Adex is done by so many in the TRT world now and HCG at 250-500iu 2x week is also the norm, spreading test-e or test-c into 2 smaller 50mg doses is prefered by many as it keeps levels even, although for some 100-150 every 5 days works as well.

I am sorry if u feel I am a bullshitter but I can see whu you feel that way, I uped the ADEX to .5mg last night and awoke with morning wood I have learnt through some more research on another site that it is most likely the estrogen that is to high and that learning how to control this is important as you don't as you say want to go to low.

I am on the right track with the estrogen i know this now as I have the bloodwork to prove it I don't know how you can see that my levels may be to low they are not and the last bloods were only done last week. It fucking pisses me off that as an obvious long term member who knows his shit when it comes to steroids and thier cycling that you can not understand my levels, sorry again if you feel I am a bullshiter, i guess u will tell me to fuck off like you do others, I have read some of your posts, you are honest I will give you that.

If I do do a cycle in the future, then if u have not told me to fuck off by then, my friend you will be the first port of call.

thanks for your response.



PS Guido, mate if you saw photos of me, you would see Im not bullshittin, just by looking at em you would see Im no BB and have not cycled, this is a genuine case.

I understand your levels perfectly, as you should understand everything you are doing is absolutely fucking wrong. HCG and Armidex on TRT? Please do yourself a favor and go see another doctor.

Go see another doctor. End of discussion. If you have the money to afford illegal steroids and bloodwork you have the money for a second opinion. Get one.
 
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