High Expectations? States Weigh Pot Reform

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High Expectations? States Weigh Pot Reform
Washington among states considering legalizing marijuana, dozens of states weigh other reforms

By RACHEL LA CORTE Associated Press Writer
OLYMPIA, Wash. December 27, 2009 (AP) The Associated Press


Marijuana plants sit on a shelf at Coffeeshop Blue Sky cannabis dispensery in Oakland, California. Now Washington is among the states considering legalizing marijuana, and dozens of states weigh other reforms.

Washington is one of four states where measures to legalize and regulate marijuana have been introduced, and about two dozen other states are considering bills ranging from medical marijuana to decriminalizing possession of small amounts of the herb.

"In terms of state legislatures, this is far and away the most active year that we've ever seen," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance, which supports reforming marijuana laws.

Nadelmann said that while legalization efforts are not likely to get much traction in state capitals anytime soon, the fact that there is such an increase of activity "is elevating the level of public discourse on this issue and legitimizing it."

"I would say that we are close to the tipping point," he said. "At this point they are still seen as symbolic bills to get the conversation going, but at least the conversation can be a serious one."

Opponents of relaxing marijuana laws aren't happy with any conversation on the topic, other than keeping the drug illegal.

"There's no upside to it in any manner other than for those people who want to smoke pot," said Travis Kuykendall, head of the West Texas High Intensity Drug-Trafficking Area office in El Paso, Texas. "There's nothing for society in it, there's nothing good for the country in it, there's nothing for the good of the economy in it."

Legalization bills were introduced in California and Massachusetts earlier this year, and this month, New Hampshire and Washington state prefiled bills in advance of their legislative sessions that begin in January. Marijuana is illegal under federal law, but guidelines have been loosened on federal prosecution of medical marijuana under the Obama administration.

Even so, marijuana reform legislation remains a tough sell in some places. In the South, for example, only Mississippi and North Carolina have decriminalization laws on the books.

"It's a social and cultural thing," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based marijuana advocacy group. "There are some parts of the country where social attitudes are just a little more cautious and conservative."

Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson, a Seattle Democrat who is sponsoring the legalization bill in Washington state, said that she "wanted to start a strong conversation about the pros and cons of legalizing marijuana."

Under her bill, marijuana would be sold in Washington state's 160 state-run liquor stores, and customers, 21 and older, would pay a tax of 15 percent per gram. The measure would dedicate most of the money raised for substance abuse prevention and treatment, which is facing potential cuts in the state budget. Dickerson said the measure could eventually bring in as much to state coffers as alcohol does, more than $300 million a year.

"Our state is facing a huge financial deficit and deficits are projected for a few more years," Dickerson said, referring to the projected $2.6 billion hole lawmakers will need to fill next year. "We need to look at revenue and see what might be possible."


Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said that tough economic times across the country have lawmakers looking at everything, and may lead even more states to eventually consider the potential tax value of pot.

"The bean counters are now reporting back to their elected officials how much money is being left off the table," he said, adding that billions of dollars worth of pot is going untaxed.

Ron Brooks, president of the National Narcotics Officers' Associations' Coalition, said that he feared that, if legalized, marijuana would contribute to more highway accidents and deaths, as well as a potential increase in health care costs for those who smoke it.

State lawmakers, he said, need to ask themselves "if they believe we really will make all that revenue, and even if we did, will it be worth the suffering, the loss of opportunities, the chronic illness or death that would occur?"

Legalization isn't the only measure lawmakers across the country are weighing. About two dozen states, including Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Wisconsin, are considering bills ranging from medical marijuana to decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, St. Pierre said. Washington state is among the states that are considering decriminalization, with a bill that would reclassify adult possession of marijuana from a crime with jail time to a civil infraction with a $100 penalty.

Fourteen states, including Washington state, already have medical marijuana laws, and 13 have decriminalization laws on the books, St. Pierre said. About two dozen cities across the country, including Seattle, make marijuana offenses a low law-enforcement priority.

Marijuana advocates said that while increased activity in the statehouse is heartening, change most likely will come at the ballot box through voter-driven initiatives.

"Inevitably, the politicians are going to be behind the curve on this stuff," Nadelmann said, noting that almost all of the medical marijuana laws came about by initiative.


This month, a group campaigning to put a marijuana legalization measure before California voters said it had enough signatures to qualify for the 2010 ballot.

That proposal would legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana for adults 21 and older. Residents could cultivate marijuana gardens up to 25 square feet. City and county governments would determine whether to permit and tax marijuana sales within their boundaries. And in Nevada earlier this month, backers of a move to legalize marijuana there filed paperwork creating an advocacy group aimed at qualifying an initiative for the 2012 election.
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-legalizing-marijuana,0,3959065.story

Washington among states considering legalizing marijuana, dozens of states weigh other reforms

RACHEL LA CORTE
Associated Press Writer
December 27, 2009 | 12:15 p.m

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Washington is one of four states where measures to legalize and regulate marijuana have been introduced, and about two dozen other states are considering bills ranging from medical marijuana to decriminalizing possession of small amounts of the herb.

"In terms of state legislatures, this is far and away the most active year that we've ever seen," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance, which supports reforming marijuana laws.

Nadelmann said that while legalization efforts are not likely to get much traction in state capitals anytime soon, the fact that there is such an increase of activity "is elevating the level of public discourse on this issue and legitimizing it."

"I would say that we are close to the tipping point," he said. "At this point they are still seen as symbolic bills to get the conversation going, but at least the conversation can be a serious one."

Opponents of relaxing marijuana laws aren't happy with any conversation on the topic, other than keeping the drug illegal.

"There's no upside to it in any manner other than for those people who want to smoke pot," said Travis Kuykendall, head of the West Texas High Intensity Drug-Trafficking Area office in El Paso, Texas. "There's nothing for society in it, there's nothing good for the country in it, there's nothing for the good of the economy in it."

Legalization bills were introduced in California and Massachusetts earlier this year, and this month, New Hampshire and Washington state prefiled bills in advance of their legislative sessions that begin in January. Marijuana is illegal under federal law, but guidelines have been loosened on federal prosecution of medical marijuana under the Obama administration.

Even so, marijuana reform legislation remains a tough sell in some places. In the South, for example, only Mississippi and North Carolina have decriminalization laws on the books.

"It's a social and cultural thing," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based marijuana advocacy group. "There are some parts of the country where social attitudes are just a little more cautious and conservative."

Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson, a Seattle Democrat who is sponsoring the legalization bill in Washington state, said that she "wanted to start a strong conversation about the pros and cons of legalizing marijuana."

Under her bill, marijuana would be sold in Washington state's 160 state-run liquor stores, and customers, 21 and older, would pay a tax of 15 percent per gram. The measure would dedicate most of the money raised for substance abuse prevention and treatment, which is facing potential cuts in the state budget. Dickerson said the measure could eventually bring in as much to state coffers as alcohol does, more than $300 million a year.

"Our state is facing a huge financial deficit and deficits are projected for a few more years," Dickerson said, referring to the projected $2.6 billion hole lawmakers will need to fill next year. "We need to look at revenue and see what might be possible."

Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said that tough economic times across the country have lawmakers looking at everything, and may lead even more states to eventually consider the potential tax value of pot.

"The bean counters are now reporting back to their elected officials how much money is being left off the table," he said, adding that billions of dollars worth of pot is going untaxed.

Ron Brooks, president of the National Narcotics Officers' Associations' Coalition, said that he feared that, if legalized, marijuana would contribute to more highway accidents and deaths, as well as a potential increase in health care costs for those who smoke it.

State lawmakers, he said, need to ask themselves "if they believe we really will make all that revenue, and even if we did, will it be worth the suffering, the loss of opportunities, the chronic illness or death that would occur?"

Legalization isn't the only measure lawmakers across the country are weighing. About two dozen states, including Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Wisconsin, are considering bills ranging from medical marijuana to decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, St. Pierre said. Washington state is among the states that are considering decriminalization, with a bill that would reclassify adult possession of marijuana from a crime with jail time to a civil infraction with a $100 penalty.

Fourteen states, including Washington state, already have medical marijuana laws, and 13 have decriminalization laws on the books, St. Pierre said. About two dozen cities across the country, including Seattle, make marijuana offenses a low law-enforcement priority.

Marijuana advocates said that while increased activity in the statehouse is heartening, change most likely will come at the ballot box through voter-driven initiatives.

"Inevitably, the politicians are going to be behind the curve on this stuff," Nadelmann said, noting that almost all of the medical marijuana laws came about by initiative.

This month, a group campaigning to put a marijuana legalization measure before California voters said it had enough signatures to qualify for the 2010 ballot.

That proposal would legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana for adults 21 and older. Residents could cultivate marijuana gardens up to 25 square feet. City and county governments would determine whether to permit and tax marijuana sales within their boundaries. And in Nevada earlier this month, backers of a move to legalize marijuana there filed paperwork creating an advocacy group aimed at qualifying an initiative for the 2012 election.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/17/blogs/coopscorner/entry5992048.shtml

December 17, 2009 3:57 PM
Pot Legalization: An Idea No Self-Respecting Capitalist Can Resist?


What with the deep divide between Democrats and Republicans on a range of issues these days, might the push to legalize marijuana galvanize erstwhile political opponents to rally behind the issue? Given the current rancor in Washington, any predictions are fraught, but the marijuana legalization movement thinks it has a bi-partisan winner on its hands.

No thanks to any epiphany in Washington D.C. Rather, pot legalization proponents believe the question is destined to become a states rights issue -helped in no small part by the lure of old-fashioned capitalism.

"To put it crassly, there's gold in them thar hills and people recognize that," says California state assembly member, Tom Ammiano. He added that there are increasing feelers from entrepreneurs in his state regarding the question of marijuana legalization. "They smell something important," he said.

Ammiano was speaking Thursday afternoon on a teleconference organized by the Drug Policy Alliance, an organization that advocates for pot legalization. With the year about to finish up, marijuana advocacy groups like the Drug Policy Alliance point to recent developments as evidence that the debate over marijuana legalization is turning in their favor. In California, for example, more than 680,000 people have signed a petition to up a Tax and Regulate initiative up for a ballot vote next year.

"I think this could become a states rights issue, Ammiano said, adding that "if it is regulated and there is revenue, I think there'll be a lot of emulation. It won't be isolated to California."

Roger Goodman, a state representative in Washington state where he co-authored a bill to regulate marijuana for adult use like alcohol, echoed Ammiano, predicting that the impetus for pot legalization is going to come from the states. Describing the war on drugs as "a bipartisan disaster," Goodman likewise suggested that economics would force the question onto more state agendas. He has a strong argument. In the aftermath of a nationwide recession that is forcing deep budget cuts, the idea of marijuana becoming a cash crop has suddenly become a rallying cry.

Indeed, in cash-strapped California, where the state is looking at a $22 billion budget deficit, there's growing grass roots support to legalize and tax cannabis. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said marijuana taxes could raise as much as $1.3 billion. In April, a California Field Poll found that 56% of state voters favored a plan to legalize and tax pot.

An October Gallup poll found U.S. support for pot legalization reaching a new high with 44% in favor and 54% opposed. Though marijuana possession is still a crime in most states, 14 states allow its use in medical situations.

"This is an issue that has been simmering," said Goodman. "And it is ripe."

Maybe so but the lingering question is whether economic self-interest can trump cultural conservatism. Even with the recent gains in public opinion support, marijuana legalization advocates need to press their case in a country where majority opinion still remains against them. And with a midterm national election on the horizon - not to mention jockeying for the next presidential race already underway - opposition to pot legalization could easily turn into a campaign issue for "values" candidates.
 
They got mail :D (marijuana reform)

Least i could do :o

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I'll be watching the Washington results very closely.
By itself, I don't believe attitudes have shifted sufficiently overall nationwide for legalization to spread .. Though each and every year I'm sure support grows by at least 1%, as the old bastards die off ..
But with state budget crises nationwide, the logic of taxing something all but the most ignorant of conservative Christians believe to be no more harmful than alcohol becomes clearer.
90% of the fear campaign's arguments will be proven null when some place does legalize it. Only a slight uptick in DUIs and youth cannabis use will be observed due to slightly wider-spread availability.

The #1 problem with any lower government approving Legalization will be the Feds. Such a vote would be tantamount to the Civil War and secession; the DEA is sure to raid + arrest every owner/operator of the local stores who dares sell it over the counter.
While I can see strong arguments against the Interstate Commerce Clause governing a locally grown, distributed and sold plant, the Feds obviously won't care about logic, only the pre-existing law under which cannabis is classified higher than methamphetamine or cocaine.

When Legalized, I also wonder how the existing black-market growers/sellers will be treated in re: income tax.
Not an issue in Washington (damn them), but unlike tobacco/alcohol, I'm sure 20% of the market will still be private + unregulated (more in rural areas). Technically you can't sell alcohol without a permit; will state Departments of Justice start investigating and prosecuting private growers?
Some local asian businesspersons got hit with major racketeering charges a few years back for selling untaxed cigarettes, so I suppose state control is possible .. But the Feds could always Catch-22 cannabis profits come Federal Income Tax time (don't declare and you're committing Tax Evasion, ala Capone; admit legit and they'll send you to Federal prison for the Schedule I violations).

Lots to iron out, but all should be secondary to doing the right thing, which I'm sure will happen in our lifetime, even if not in the next few years :)

Think green!
Until then grow your own and keep the hollow-points close ;)
 
Ron Brooks, president of the National Narcotics Officers' Associations' Coalition, said that he feared that, if legalized, marijuana would contribute to more highway accidents and deaths, as well as a potential increase in health care costs for those who smoke it.

State lawmakers, he said, need to ask themselves "if they believe we really will make all that revenue, and even if we did, will it be worth the suffering, the loss of opportunities, the chronic illness or death that would occur?"
this dude is such a jackass, making false statements on a subject they clearly know nothing about.
 
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