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Misc High-dose prozac "can feel like amphetamines"

rudiecantfail

rudiecantfail

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Hello,

Today I told my psychiatrist that I take stimulants.
His amazing answer was that he'd prefer me to take pharm-grade stims rather than RC's, and therefore might prescribe me some.
In my country, the only pharm-stim is methylphenidate (ritaline, concerta).
But since I'm also depressed, he added that high doses of prozac could somehow feel like an amphetamine.

I think I'll ask for concerta, but prozac has my attention too now. The problem is that there are no testimonials about stimulant effects of high prozac dosage on the internet.

So here's my question: Are some of you on high-dose prozac ? How does it feel ? Does it last all day ? What are the side effects ?

Thanks for your testimonials.
 
ehhhhhhh...
I'm really inclined to call your psychiatrist a bonehead.

I truly can't believe any trained doctor with the ability to prescribe medicine would ever recommend this, much less write an Rx for it. Disturbing.

If you have bipolar, any form of it, or any type of 'cyclic' depression, it is detrimental to prescribe antidepressants to patients with the afformentioned conditions. antidepressants can often send those with bipolar, who are currently in a depressive cycle, shooting into a mixed mania, which is like being very hyper but very irritated and irritable. Frankly, it's hideous.

The energy the doctor is thinking by 'over' dosing prozac, would likely be short lived. One probably would gain more energy from it, somewhat similar to a stimulant, but I would be willing to bet it wouldn't sustain and would likely result in negative effects.
 
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I tried 20 Prozac once. It felt like Ecstasy, without any of the effects. I would not recommend this.
 
Oh man do I hate SSRIS. I wouldnt mind having a scrip for dextroamphetamine or adderal. Ritalin is a bit edgy for me. I do feel very compelled to do things when I take ritalin. One time I took a whole bottle and spent the entire day moving all the furniture in my house around. My friends were shocked at how much different my house looked. I also cleaned the entire place, vaccumed, and mowed the lawn.

I really shouldnt take 30 plus pills at a time and its obviously dangerous, but I do try to note how dangerous my behaviour is. I do forget sometimes but since this forum is a HR resource I do my best to remind people I do incredibly stupid things when it comes to drugs and what may have little effect on me could easily kill the next man. That being said I cannot take more than 2 muscle relaxers without falling over, so I suppose even the dopemaster can be conquered by the right substance.
 
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I actually overdosed on soma. I took four to start with and parked my car in the bushes. It took me a while to get out of the car and into the house. I kept asking my mum for a ride to the store and she said she would take me if I could get to the car without falling over so I never made it to the store. Anyways I decided that the drug was not strong enough and I should take more. So about 4 more somas later I wake up in ICU the next day. I ripped out the IV saline and all the sensors monitoring my heart rate and what not. Man did the staff freak out. I just grabbed my clothes which were in a bag and walked to the lobby and called a ride while still wearing one of those gowns that shows your ass. They decided to let me keep the gown when I started to change my clothes in the lobby.
 
yes it does. But right now i'm on venlafaxine (effexor) high dose, and it reuptakes seratonin, neroadrenaline, and dopamine at 300mg XL so very stimulating, more than prozac
 
I was on zoloft a few years ago and for some reason decided to take a handful, I remember extreme paranoia like I had been up for days.
 
There's definitely a brand of psychiatrist out there with, to put it politely and mildly, "counterintuitive" methods. I had a doctor (who was even employed by a famous, top shelf university) who continuously adjusted my amphetamine prescription as I desired (which, if I recall correctly, was always an increase.) When I complained of the comedown, he said something like "In a case like this, you need a 'cushion,'" and wrote me a prescription for an antidepressant. He then continued to adjust my medications as I saw fit. Things didn't really end all that well.

There was a NY Times article recently about a boy who spiraled down when confronted with the same situation. His history is eerily similar to mine, except mine excluded suicide at the end of it all.

Chasing a high-dose Prozac stimulation seems like a way to at least be disappointed. And at the worst, find yourself in a bizarre, catatonic and depersonalized state that could be dangerous. "Ecstasy, without any of the effects" is the perfect paradox I would really try to avoid.
 
yeah prozac with some people will cause mania which will certainly feel like a stim but not in a good way. Go with concerta, helps with depression far better than prozac and it actually works, unlike prozac. Probably a more safe drug too and no discontinuation syndrome, though prozac's isn't that bad.

Stims generally release or affect dopamine and norepinipherine, where as Prozac works on Inhibiting Reupate of Serotonin (so there's more serotonin in your brain basically), so they aren't alike in anyway really. DA NE releasers are much better than reuptake inhibitors as well, same goes for SE releasers, but i guess those are pretty abusable in comparison. Funny that you mention using stim rcs and your psych wants you to use pharm stims instead lol, it's reasonable and exactly what i would recommend as well but psychiatrists love their stimulants, so not a huge surprise. I swear my psych is more spun than i am every time i see him.

@dopemaster: i respond the exact same way as you.
 
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Your doc sounds like one that just writes off scripts easily with out giving a fuck about their patients. And ritalin is a SHIT- tier chemical, it has such a bad crash and seriously fucks up your heart.
 
I'm surprised that your psychiatrist would willingly prescribe stimulants off label, and - further - that he'd prescribe antidepressants at doses way above that which is both recommended and proven to be safe.

Anyway, to the question in hand. I'd personally stick to stimulants for a rush, rather then antidepressants. The 'high' from antidepressants is comparable to mania, and it can become very unpleasant very fast if psychosis (either from mania, or simply sleep deprivation) starts setting in. I mean, having experienced it it's hard to describe, it just isn't nice. You become extremely wired, nervous, anxious, restless, severe mood swings, hypersexual, and - ironically - depressed towards the end. The crash is horrible - especially if you haven't slept for days. Now, I was psychotic at the time, and the antidepressants at normal doses brought it out, but from reading around the web really high doses in normal individuals are comparable.

Now for safety. With high doses you could expect to see the usual side effects but 'greater'. I'd bet on it that you would experience headaches and gastronomical disturbances at the very least. You may experience everything from blurry vision and sweating to heart palpatations and suicidal ideation - if you're predisposed to such. I recommend that you read this: http://www.nhs.uk/medicine-guides/p...aspx?condition=Depression&medicine=fluoxetine and note that the more you take the more likely you are to get the rarer side effects.

I should also add that when using SSRIs for any duration you should be prepared for the possibility of suffering SSRI discontinuation syndrome, which is far from pleasant.
 
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Your doc sounds like one that just writes off scripts easily with out giving a fuck about their patients. And ritalin is a SHIT- tier chemical, it has such a bad crash and seriously fucks up your heart.
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^Well said. Trigger happy so to speak, with the RX pad.

Ho-Chi-Minh said:
I would hazard that those achieving euphoria from ssris , including myself, are probably experiencing hypomania.
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Very interesting, I didn't know such a thing was possible! What SSRI/dose are you taking, may I ask? Feel free to PM me the answer if you don't want to post it.
 
SSRIs and ritalin both sound awful. I know ritalin is a narcotic and all but it still sucks. The crash from ritalin is unpleasant and SSRIs suck. They destroy my sex drive and make me feel anxious, edgy, and depressed.
 
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