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alcoholic333

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I feel dumb because I posted here a week ago saying I use once a week asking if I will get wd's. Anyway I've been using everyday for a week or so and once a week before that. I want to stop but the insomnia is a big problem.

I don't have a family doc and am finishing off my last it tonight. If I wanted to get some drugs to get off this what should I do? Could I do a walk in clinic or hospital? Maybe methadone clinic? I don't want any meth or sub though. I am in Victoria BC Canada
 
honeatly i dont think u will get ANY withdrawals from a week long bing.. but if u were to actully get some thell be super super minimal if even that.... but i may have to go through a lil 2moro, xanax is all il be usuing so any benzo will help,clonidine as well ( both are prescription only, so if u can aquire some) and also loperamide will help minimize some symptoms (its over the counter, just google if ur not familiar)... the xanax will help tons pretty much kill the anxiety assosiated... but honestly if i were u i wouldnt be worried at all man...
 
theres also a withdrawal mega thread on here somewhere full of stuff... but like i said i doubt ul get anything worth any meds. if and i really doubt, anything at all.
 
My feedback is to make this your ONLY withdrawl. Learn NOW that you can't use recreationally and save yourself the agony that many of use have and continue to go through with opiates b/c we think we can have power and control over them.
 
Your w/d's should be very mild (if really terribly notable at all, aside from any mental/psychological difficulties). I would suggest taking hot baths or showers to deal with any body discomforts you have (also good as overall time thief/distraction). If you have any 'bowel issues' take a little immodium. Try to get eat as well as you can, exercise is surprisingly a great way to ease w/ds (esp mild w/ds... ) and to keep your mind off using.
 
I'm not sure about what the laws are regarding methadone in Canada, but I know that now, where I am in NYC, you can actually set up an outpatient methadone taper, which is what I'm currently doing, though it's going to be a pretty long one (3 months). If you can get your hands on some buprenorphine (suboxone), 16mg is enough for most people to kick relatively easily, and you can check out the suboxone/buprenorphine Megathread and FAQ to help set up a taper schedule.

If all else fails, try and get your hands in loperamide (aka immodium). It's a synthetic opioid which does not readily cross the BBB, though in higher than normal dosages, it alleviates nearly all withdrawal symptoms, and is commonly referred to here as OTC Methadone.
 
I say go cold turkey. It's something that every addict should experience once in their life. If you wanna play you gotta pay. I'm not kidding either. I find something about going cold turkey to symbolize being reborn in a way, and I usually have a decent period of clean time after kicking cold turkey as opposed to tapering. It's like why would I want to go through kicking again if I just did it, whereas with tapering you are kinda getting off easy, so may not learn your lesson.

I only suggest tapering for bigger habits, or if you can't set aside 2-3 days to miss school/work/whatever. For small habits I have found that tapering with suboxone or methadone will usually complicate things, and just result in a milder yet more drawn out withdrawal.

Cold turkey is the only way I kick now. It usually happens unintentionally actually, like if I can't get dope for two days and am already half way through withdrawal, I just go through the rest of it and take a break from drugs for a while. I pop a few clonidine for the RLS and to help me sleep, and I face the withdrawals head on. Insomnia is by far the worst part, but I have found that clonidine can actually knock me out pretty well.

Your one week binge doesn't warrant a taper, and it would probably do more harm than good. Enjoy the last of your dope tonight, and then don't even think about dope or withdrawals after it. A lot of withdrawal is mental, so if you don't think about it much and keep busy, it will be a lot easier to get through.
 
I dont get what it is you want to get prescribed if not bupe or methadone?

But yeah man 2 week binge? Youve got absolutely nothing to worry about.
 
Tommyboy said:
I say go cold turkey. It's something that every addict should experience once in their life. If you wanna play you gotta pay. I'm not kidding either. I find something about going cold turkey to symbolize being reborn in a way, and I usually have a decent period of clean time after kicking cold turkey as opposed to tapering. It's like why would I want to go through kicking again if I just did it, whereas with tapering you are kinda getting off easy, so may not learn your lesson.

I only suggest tapering for bigger habits, or if you can't set aside 2-3 days to miss school/work/whatever. For small habits I have found that tapering with suboxone or methadone will usually complicate things, and just result in a milder yet more drawn out withdrawal.

Cold turkey is the only way I kick now. It usually happens unintentionally actually, like if I can't get dope for two days and am already half way through withdrawal, I just go through the rest of it and take a break from drugs for a while. I pop a few clonidine for the RLS and to help me sleep, and I face the withdrawals head on. Insomnia is by far the worst part, but I have found that clonidine can actually knock me out pretty well.

Your one week binge doesn't warrant a taper, and it would probably do more harm than good. Enjoy the last of your dope tonight, and then don't even think about dope or withdrawals after it. A lot of withdrawal is mental, so if you don't think about it much and keep busy, it will be a lot easier to get through.
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Word. You're gonna find it much harder coming off methadone. And considering your minimal usage you should be fine. However I do like the theory that we all need to suffer cold turkey. It will make you realise the fire you are playing with and hopefully make you respect the drug and yourself more. I went cold on 70mg methadone (was on it for a year) worst 3 months of my life. Taught me a goddam lesson though!
 
I think your at the very beggining stage of physical addiction. The only symptom your gonna have is insomnia for a couple days buck up and deal with it. Youll be right as rain in 3 days. But if you fuck around and stay on the gear your gonna be in a world of hurt in a month or 2
 
Definitly deal with it. It only gets worse and worse and everyone will tell u theuv been to hell and back. So. Smoke some ganga to help u sleep. Pop a xanax and move on for real while u can Try to imagine the way i feel now being a thousand x worse and believe me that will happen. There is no rewind button on life.
 
crimsonjunk said:
I think your at the very beggining stage of physical addiction. The only symptom your gonna have is insomnia for a couple days buck up and deal with it. Youll be right as rain in 3 days. But if you fuck around and stay on the gear your gonna be in a world of hurt in a month or 2
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Definitely. The symptoms from withdrawal you get early on in your using career seem like a warm summer day compared to what they turn into, better to kick it now then to be writhing on the floor in a few months or years puking your guts out and shaking.
 
Thanks, I don't have ACCESS TO any benzos so I dealt with the first 24 hours fine but today had to buy 100 Tylenol/codeine 8mg pills and will take those by cwe tonight and tomorrow.
 
Be careful with thw tylonel with codeine. There still opiates and can b addicting. And if u start popping them rite away. They wont do crap. I would wait till withdrawal hits. And take them at nite. Heroin to tylonol codeine is Like a red bull to decaf coffee. But ur not really heavily addicted to heroin but u could end up addicted to codeine with all those pills. They make me sooo itchy rhough
 
alcoholic333 said:
Thanks, I don't have ACCESS TO any benzos so I dealt with the first 24 hours fine but today had to buy 100 Tylenol/codeine 8mg pills and will take those by cwe tonight and tomorrow.
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Why would you take codeine now when you are already 1/3 of the way though withdrawals? I'm telling you it's just going to prolong withdrawal, or allow you to keep from getting sick for a while and then you will just go back to heroin once the codeine runs out. It happens all the time. Unfortunately most tapers just end up turning into a bridge between binges from your DOC, which is why I recommend cold turkey for small habits like yours.
 
If sleep is the only thing holding you back, why not just take a benzo or smoke bud to crash? Just don't start another addiction.
 
Ya I know it's nOt a good idea, I drank a few beers with a friend tonight, tomorrow I'll take nothing then I gotta have some drinks with a girl Saturday night. I am going to work in ten days where I will be working 12 hours a day 7 days a week for 60 consecutive days so even if I get another bag I might just have a few horrible days of work, but no way to get any drugs or booze
 
"so even if I get another bag I might just have a few horrible days of work, but no way to get any drugs or booze" i see this as an ego defender trying to justify using, why would you want to work during withdrawal when it could be a lot easier now? listen to the above posters, they have experience, they know how slippery the slope actually is, i was convinced i was controlling my addiction until i woke up vomiting until i got my fix... c'mon man think about the future and not the present, its so easy to take to path of least resistance (using), you've gotta fight it off now.
 
Soooo true. Listen to everyone. Here. Go visit the dark side. You are settin yourself. Up. For disaster cuz ur not really in withdrawal. Ur in mental withdrawal. If u were in real physical withdrawal and had a bag of h. Ud do it to stop the pain. Stop while u can. I have never done heroin But every other drug. When i go theu withdrawal the thongs im capable of to get rid of my pain is frightening and not me. And some say heroin withdrawal worse.
 
My case is different cuz i used for a long time, but i highly recommend a detox clinic (NOT methadone). Many centers will pay to even fly u there. I flew to FL ;) They ween u off with ur choice of subutex, soboxone or hycodone. I opted for hycodone. The detox period was much shorter than if i had used the other options. and it tastes yummy. and at detox places, it's all usually covered by insurance.
 
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