So, I've read a number of threads on this topic and largely agree with the information in them. However, I've found that after about 12 hours after a small dose of suboxone, I'm able to feel some effects. Some of this is certainly a placebo and honestly I wasn't completely convinced that it wasn't entirely just me being a fiend until yesterday. My girlfriend and I are kicking a 10-12 bag a day habit of about the best dope I've ever encountered in south philly (north is generally better, although can be a crapshoot). We weaned ourselves down to 6 bags (2 3-bag shots) a day for about 5 days before we started subs and that was just barely keeping us well, honestly the reason we were doing so little was we were scraping together our rent, and really, the main reason I'm kicking is that my tolerance is too high and my arms are all jacked up to the point where the only place I can reliably hit is already an abcess. I fully intended going into it to get high again within the next couple weeks, although generally in the past once I've kicked I'm pretty good about not jumping straight back into the habit... ANYWAY, back on point. As I've established, the missus and I are broke and started suboxone with 2 and a half 8 mg strips between the two of us. Yesterday, I took about a third of a strip and still felt like shit about 4-6 hours later. I bummed some cottons off my roommate, who is still using (great situation to kick in, right?) To give myself some peace of mind, if nothing else. Now, his habit is the same as if not more than mine was and he's getting the same dope I am, which tends to leave a good amount of residue, so I got a pretty fat shot out of the five or so cottons he gave me, and muscled it. After a few moments I found myself feeling better and actuslly had an appetite. The appetite specifically is what has me fully convinced that it's not a placebo affect, although this time as in the past I've felt a lighter than normal heroin high that sort of feels like it hits a wall somewhere before the full body high. I think the reason this worked for me is the low dose of subs in comparison to my dope habit.