Heroin Social: Version 5

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Hi Ructs...Honestly bab, if u do score 2moro, I could predict exactly what you'll write, and needless to say you'll be disappointed and will be fucked off at having spent another x amount of Euros of fucking bashed up shite! But u gotta tho int ya? Gotta test the water, cos u never know when that elusive bit of B might turn up, the so called "rogue batch" of B! Thats what I mean just wish all of us knew what the fuck was goin on. Way to many little fuckin cunts have profited from the average gear heads misery during this stinking drought, wish the tables could be turned on the little bastads; "here, you inject this congealed shit into your fucking veins ya little fuckwit, you were cutting it and selling it and claiming it was <Fire/Dynamite/Rocket Fuel/Pre Drought 10 outta 10 etc>, so you fucking do it!"

Yep PapaverSom you were dead right! The gear i got to night is just the same old low grade stuff!!!

Also it seems there is another Drought in Dublin, which is pathetic seen as the first drought hasn't even ended yet! But up to now you could score gear anywhere without any hassle at all, the only problem was the although the gear looked, burned & ran perfect on the foil it is in-fact very weak! But now its hard to score again! I couldn't get anything yesterday, i only managed to score at last to-night!

The guy i got it off had to go to Belfast to get this gear, i was very hopefully that the gear would be good like what many of yous are getting in the UK! But no, its the VERY same old crap that we are getting down here!

So surprise surprise there is no improvement in the quality of the gear in Dublin since i scored 12 days ago!!! Although i did get one bit of good news, unfortunately it got the news after i'd already scored, but however a good & trusted mate of mine (one of the few people who seem to know the difference between gear that just looks good & gear that is actually proper strong gear) said that he scored some H & there was an improvement! He said its not as good as before the drought but that there is an improvement!!! So that sounds gooooooooood!!!! I'm dieing to try some!!!!

 

[4x4ledbury]

Yep PapaverSom you were dead right! The gear i got to night is just the same old low grade stuff!!!

Also it seems there is another Drought in Dublin, which is pathetic seen as the first drought hasn't even ended yet! But up to now you could score gear anywhere without any hassle at all, the only problem was the although the gear looked, burned & ran perfect on the foil it is in-fact very weak! But now its hard to score again! I couldn't get anything yesterday, i only managed to score at last to-night!

The guy i got it off had to go to Belfast to get this gear, i was very hopefully that the gear would be good like what many of yous are getting in the UK! But no, its the VERY same old crap that we are getting down here!

So surprise surprise there is no improvement in the quality of the gear in Dublin since i scored 12 days ago!!! Although i did get one bit of good news, unfortunately it got the news after i'd already scored, but however a good & trusted mate of mine (one of the few people who seem to know the difference between gear that just looks good & gear that is actually proper strong gear) said that he scored some H & there was an improvement! He said its not as good as before the drought but that there is an improvement!!! So that sounds gooooooooood!!!! I'm dieing to try some!!!!

it is bullshit to say there is a drought in dublin like you say if the gear what is available is 2011 pre drought has in the norm what will the new drought gear be like and i know what the gear is like you can get . 1 it is the same in gloucester flodded with the shite it looks good runs proper dont smell right but is halfway there but it dont do nothing i know damn well what it is like.
if i was to say i would send you some of the usual gear from gloucester (obviously i aint going too) you would say that is the same shit what is in dublin and that must do your head in it is a joke . i would go mad if i had to buy it that is why i feel for you because has a addict we need gear just to cope with the mental addiction because meth will sort the cluck out but bash just dont cut it.
I am glad that i can get good gear if you look or are willing to pay or both because i would go mad without it i get well depressed if i got scoring in my head and all that is offer is the shit stuff on weight. So there is no one who has proper gear in dublin even if they been to blighty to score it is mad to think there aint 1 person.
update on the new dealer i tried in worcester the stuff was very very average like a small 2 hour nod for 50 quid it was that frosty shit not worth the money but still better than what is in gloucester on weight or bags. When will it all end hopefully next year it has got too surely

 

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Yeah Ledbury its all bull-shit!!! But amazingly how many people in Dublin consider the drought to have ended months ago! Just coz the gear LOOKS good many people think that its is good, but it isn't! It weak crap! Its weak compared to what i was getting before the drought anyway, so maybe some other people were getting rubbish before the drought, so they are just used to it! I know a couple who are using the same gear as i was using before i changed to a different dealer about a month ago. The gear we were getting is that same low grade gear that Dublin is flooded with! Looks good, buts its weak as hell! But they have been scoring this stuff day in day out for months! I can't understand why they are so willing to spend thousands of €uro on rubbish gear! He is 50 years of age & she is 45, they have been using for around 30 years, so i can totally understand the mental addiction that they must have! BUT they consider the gear over here to be good?! You'd think they'd know better after all those year of using??? The mind boggles, i can't understand why they don't just stick to their methadone, they could still score a few times a week if they wanted, but instead they are still going through buckets of this weak gear!!! How can they think the quality of the gear is good when it clearly isn't? They get so pissed off with me when i say that i think the gear is weak! Is it a placibo effect they are experiencing? Or what is the story with them? Its the strangest thing, this gear has so many people fooled! I just can't understand it! 8(

It reminds me of when i was younger, when my mates & I first started experimenting with alcohol. I remember one Saint Patrick's day there was a gang of us drinking in the park, we were all about 15 years of age. We were all drinking cider, except for one of the girls who didn't like cider so she got a bottle of wine! The wine had her locked! She was falling around pissed out of her head, acting as 15year olds act when they are drinking! She was that drunk that i was starting to worry about her! She had drank about 3/4's of the bottle when she asked me if i wanted some. She handed me the bottle & i started reading the label acting like i was some sort of a wine connoisseur, when i noticed that it said on the bottle "Alcohol Free Wine!!!' So i told her i didn't want any & i handed it back to her. She called me a light-weight coz i didn't try any & then she polished off the bottle & she seemed to get even more pissed! It was only later on when she was really pissing me off coz she kept calling me a light weight & she was acting that drunk that she expected me to practically carry her around that i showed her the label on the bottle. She got really embarrassed & then made up same ridicules story that she had been drinking before she came out! But that was total bull-shit coz she had been totally sober when i called into her that morning! I'll never forget how pissed she was acting, she went home fairly soon after i showed her the label on her wine bottle!!! Hehe!

Ledbury, did you read about the heroin bust in Gloucester? I wonder was it good gear or bash that they got? Here is the news report:

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story-14092796-detail/story.html

Was it PapaverSom who posted on here about Googling "Newsnow heroin" to find on all the news reports on heroin? Coz its always a really good read!!! I'm always checking it out! Thanx for pointing it out PapaverSom!!!

 

[louie the 16th]

sounds good louie jealous mate there is good gear in brum because the man i see gets it there but charges way way over the odds down here

He is probably paying way over the odds himself Led . They are all asian firms here so once 1 charges the kind of money we are talkin about they all do !
Have had a couple of calls this weekend so maybe it's startin to come through again.
Hope you land on some weight soon mate.

 

[charlie clean]

'Newsnow heroin' is a great link to the latest developments in the madness. Does nobody remember there were none of these tragic tales under Rolleston? The country suffers a social problem it need not. Isn't that rather insane?

The only argument I hear against the re-introduction of diamorphine on prescription is that times have changed since 1970 and there are a lot more heroin addicts now. So what? Heroin and addiction realities remain the same. Rolleston worked then and, with refinements, would work now. The unspoken fear is of underclass hordes swamping prescribing doctors and spending their lives in slovenly insolence. Whilst you could say they will anyway and accessories to the art of leisure should no longer be the prerogative of a privileged minority, there's only naked elitism to support such a view. The relative toffs who signed up for a habit under Rolleston, with only the chemical to concern them, in fact 'got clean' in greater proportions and more quickly than addicts do today. Despite or perhaps because they had 'rehabs' and no legions of helpers to help them. Addiction realities, now generally lost in the socio-political smoke'n'mirrors, are quite classless.

It's nothing to do with the desirability or otherwise of opiate consumption. The simple fact remains the obvious solution to a considerable social problem is ignored. Why? Who has a vested interest in maintaining a continuing supply of 'problem' drug users? You may wonder where the contract prisons and various 'help' agencies would be without a continuing supply. And, whisper it softly, do the economic concerns of the men at the top in some way benefit from 'drug money'?

The 'man in the street' is being conned. If he knew the facts, he would, like the good citizens of Switzerland, vote to return to a version of Rolleston and, like his Swiss counterpart, reap the benefit. If you know those jailed 'drug barons' were dossers without a penny, that Leah Bets died from an overdose of misinformation and the rest of the 'drug' lies and bullshit, you're in the minority and probably shouldn't keep quiet any longer.

Was going to the car boot to end the night but it's too fucking cold. So to bed..

 

[4x4ledbury]

'Newsnow heroin' is a great link to the latest developments in the madness. Does nobody remember there were none of these tragic tales under Rolleston? The country suffers a social problem it need not. Isn't that rather insane?

The only argument I hear against the re-introduction of diamorphine on prescription is that times have changed since 1970 and there are a lot more heroin addicts now. So what? Heroin and addiction realities remain the same. Rolleston worked then and, with refinements, would work now. The unspoken fear is of underclass hordes swamping prescribing doctors and spending their lives in slovenly insolence. Whilst you could say they will anyway and accessories to the art of leisure should no longer be the prerogative of a privileged minority, there's only naked elitism to support such a view. The relative toffs who signed up for a habit under Rolleston, with only the chemical to concern them, in fact 'got clean' in greater proportions and more quickly than addicts do today. Despite or perhaps because they had 'rehabs' and no legions of helpers to help them. Addiction realities, now generally lost in the socio-political smoke'n'mirrors, are quite classless.

It's nothing to do with the desirability or otherwise of opiate consumption. The simple fact remains the obvious solution to a considerable social problem is ignored. Why? Who has a vested interest in maintaining a continuing supply of 'problem' drug users? You may wonder where the contract prisons and various 'help' agencies would be without a continuing supply. And, whisper it softly, do the economic concerns of the men at the top in some way benefit from 'drug money'?

The 'man in the street' is being conned. If he knew the facts, he would, like the good citizens of Switzerland, vote to return to a version of Rolleston and, like his Swiss counterpart, reap the benefit. If you know those jailed 'drug barons' were dossers without a penny, that Leah Bets died from an overdose of misinformation and the rest of the 'drug' lies and bullshit, you're in the minority and probably shouldn't keep quiet any longer.

Was going to the car boot to end the night but it's too fucking cold. So to bed..

never happen charlie not under tories nor labour david cameron is so anti heroin even thought the facts out weigh the argument plus it is not a vote winner . The general tax payer will be like why should i pay for 300000 users to stay opiated when im paying nearly 4 quid a pint in the pub for my drug of choice.
i dont think i would like to have to start injecting diamorphine and the hit is to clean isnt it unlike good street heroin i heard dia does not compare that was on opiophile.com i think
yes ructs i have heard of that `12.5 kg but it got intercepted a while ago and the trail led to 3 asains in town if it was the rajis it would be bashed up shit they wont buy good gear why because dick heads keep buying the shit convincing themselves it good. proper old addicts not just noobs it is a world gone mad.
you would not go into a pub and pay 3.50 for 0.5% stella so why buy the shit

 

[charlie clean]

never happen charlie not under tories nor labour david cameron is so anti heroin even thought the facts out weigh the argument plus it is not a vote winner

No shit. But I'm not so sure about Cameron. I suspect he's close to someone with a 'drug problem' (who isn't?) but is reluctant to go against the Tory Right and their ridiculous 'traditional values'. His coalition partners are in favour of drug liberalisation including a more widespread prescription of heroin. When you look at the disastrous failure of drug policies since Rolleston, it's not that unrealistic to hope some future government will follow sense, not prejudice.

The general tax payer will be like why should i pay for 300000 users to stay opiated when im paying nearly 4 quid a pint in the pub for my drug of choice.

At least until he's told the present policies cost him far more. The price of diamorphine powder is a drop in the ocean compared to the costs of catching, trying and imprisoning 'drug criminals', hospitalising errant users poisoned by street gear and the multitude of subsidiary industries that have sprung up on the back of 'the problem'.

I don't think I would like to haVe to start injecting

You can snort diamorphine or, if you prefer, take it orally in either tablet or linctus form. Another little known detail is that, until the mid 60s, nobody ever 'mainlined'; for forty years, British addicts happily skinpopped.

 

[PapaverSom]

Was it PapaverSom who posted on here about Googling "Newsnow heroin" to find on all the news reports on heroin? Coz its always a really good read!!! I'm always checking it out! Thanx for pointing it out PapaverSom!!!

Ur welcome Ructs I'm glad someone liked it

The whole thing with people thinking bash is good is insane ur absolutely right. And I think we've prob all seen this first hand. Even my dealer whos been a user of 20 years and someone who is 90% of the time honest with me about the quality of his gear, has been wrong. During the drough early Jan this year, he said he had 'dynamite' - he doesnt usually use those bullshit words but this time he was convinced, and said he'd travelled 4 hours to score it, and at the time I believed him and even ~snip~, and it was shit! possibly the very same shit ur scoring now-looked the part but nothing. And I could tell straight away and told him so. Mind you he at least had the excuse of being on 150ml meth daily which would undoubtedly fuck ur judgement right up. I dont know what the problem is, but if you look at ecstacy, how many people think that the £2 mitsi's or the like are the business and think theyre hardcore cos they can do 20 in a night? And how many people would rather buy soap bar than skunk? And pay £30 for a gram of paracetamol instead of £60 for a gram of decent charlie? Its fuckin insane alright. Thing is tho, have u actually seen anyone gouching off this gear? Or is anyone actually going over on it? I dont see how they could be when it must be only 5% pure at best.

I know this whole mess will sort out, its bound to eventually. But I do fear that there are now so many dealers who have got used to stamping on their shit and still managing to sell it, that it will be a slow recovery. But surely when the proper stuff becomes available again, cheaply, easily and in bulk (which it will do more as the yanks pull out of afghan), you'll get one clever dealer who will sell uncut product and take the entire market share in their area, then how long before everyone follows suit? Its just a shame they aint bright enough to offer the uncut stuff, alongside their shite, at a higher price. I also mentioned before how good it would be if a dead simple heroin purity test kit was made available, so the dealers themselvescould test the product before buying

 

[Acidtek]

Hello pap mate, I'd edit the bulk price out of your post, the evil samhaingrim could be watching! how you doing anyway?

 

[HeroINpain]

Hi people!

Hi guys thought i'd log in and check the situation out! Hello to all the faces(names) I know. Hope your all o.k in this shit dire situation! On a positive note i've stuck to my jollop for a good few weeks now as I REFUSE to keep spending hundreds a week on Shite that does nothing but wind me up and make me crave more AND MORE!! I think the fact that im on 100 Jolllop daily wouldnt allow me to feel much anyway-but 10 years ago I'd have had my face in my dinner after a bit of kit! I'm fed up with the fake cries of fire, The bomb etc etc. Gonna save everything I would normally be spending on B in one of thise tins u need a tin opener to open and buy myself a VERY nice treat next year! (maybe a nice bit of kit)-lol fuck sake there goes my head again! Be lucky people speak soon I hope!!

 

[Glitched]

Hello pap mate, I'd edit the bulk price out of your post, the evil samhaingrim could be watching! how you doing anyway?

Thanks for telling him Acidtek but I got there first!

PapaverSom (and a reminder to everyone else) STOP putting bulk prices in. It's really not an empty threat when we Mod's say the thread will disappear if it continues. I like the thread and would miss it if it was to go, as I'm sure many here would, so stop posting things like that.

Hi guys thought i'd log in and check the situation out! Hello to all the faces(names) I know. Hope your all o.k in this shit dire situation! On a positive note i've stuck to my jollop for a good few weeks now as I REFUSE to keep spending hundreds a week on Shite that does nothing but wind me up and make me crave more AND MORE!! I think the fact that im on 100 Jolllop daily wouldnt allow me to feel much anyway-but 10 years ago I'd have had my face in my dinner after a bit of kit! I'm fed up with the fake cries of fire, The bomb etc etc. Gonna save everything I would normally be spending on B in one of thise tins u need a tin opener to open and buy myself a VERY nice treat next year! (maybe a nice bit of kit)-lol fuck sake there goes my head again! Be lucky people speak soon I hope!!

That's a great idea about the tin. I use one for pound and two pound coins and it seriously add up, did about £800 in a year when I opened it. I do one every year, Christmas to Christmas, got one ready for opening in a couple of weeks, nice and heavy! Anyway, back to you HeroINpain, good luck saving, you'll be impressed with how much you save.

 

[Acidtek]

That's alright glitched, I knew you or one of the other mods would get to it! I only said Sam because I felt like winding him up if he was watching!

 

[Glitched]

Haha, no worries man. I'd rather not be mentionned if it has evil in the title!!!! Although all of us Mods are evil, I mean, how dare we stick to the rules and make you guys do it too.... I hate me!!!! Lol

How's you anyway Acidtek, all good I hope?

 

[Acidtek]

Lol! Yeah I'm all good thanks mate, not been up too much this weekend, went out with a friend last night and ended up drinking a fair bit of wine! Cost us £15 a bottle in a wine bar! Had a bit of gear yesterday and today, not to bad actually, no gouch material but a lovely euphoric content feeling!

How about you mate?

 

[wcote]

Hi Acidtek how you doing fella? What the brandy like arund you parts at da mo, stll iight tan?

Not enjoying this rain! I want it 2 be cold agaain, i 4got hw much i luv bein in the cold, and bein all warm and fuzzzy off da gear %)

Around my 'ends' its ok, my man, has some alrite, stuff, gives you a deep nod, its not that russshy, im thinkin benzo's ar in it, but im not too bovd, the nod is lush

Got myself .6, had .2 a couple of hours ago, still feeling good, about to hav a roast, then have the rest later on tonight %)

 

[Acidtek]

Yeah I'm all good mate! Yeah light tan stuff here at the momen still, sizes have got a bit smaller but I'm not too bothered as the quality isn't too bad, especially with my prescription meds on top!

Yeah mate the rain is pissing me off! Even my dog didn't want to go put in it today!

 

[PapaverSom]

Sorry glitched, I thought cos it was historical it wouldnt matter cos I saw someone else post a historical price a while back and that weren't edited? Anyway unreserved apologies I am a complete, utter cunt. 'N proud of it :D

Question for anyone out there with a bit of scientific knowledge...or anyone who just fancies a crack at answering; how difficult is it to increase the purity of brown heroin, or to complete the process and convert #3 to #4 heroin? I'm guessing it'd be difficult in the extreme and would require quite a substantial amount of kit to do it, as well as very difficult to obtain chemicals? Anhdrous something or other is it? I ask out of curiosity, not cos I am ever gonna attempt it, but if it is something that is doable, why isnt anyone doing it?

 

[blondin]

Question for anyone out there with a bit of scientific knowledge...or anyone who just fancies a crack at answering; how difficult is it to increase the purity of brown heroin, or to complete the process and convert #3 to #4 heroin? I'm guessing it'd be difficult in the extreme and would require quite a substantial amount of kit to do it, as well as very difficult to obtain chemicals? Anhdrous something or other is it? I ask out of curiosity, not cos I am ever gonna attempt it, but if it is something that is doable, why isnt anyone doing it?

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html this will tell you what you after - but you cant get hold of acetic anhydride

 

[Glitched]

Hi mate, yeh I'm good thanks, I just typed out a message in response to you Acidtek and it turned into a bit of an essay so I'll cut it and PM it to you as not to bore anyone else reading this!

Glad you're happy with the gear that you're getting wcote. Do you have much experience with benzos, or is that just what you honk because of the nod? To be honest, I can't tell the difference always just from the high as to wether it has anything in it benzo related. Because it is something I am interested in I bought some home drug testing kits and often piss test myself when I get a new contact or my contacts get a new batch, just to see what I am taking. If it is of interest to you (no worries if you are not that interested) then send me a PM and I'm happy to share the link with you of the place that I order them from, not many test for many benzos I found out see.

PapaverSom, no problem at all mate. If that previous price wasn't edited then I apologise to everyone because it slipped through the net of all us Mods and didn't get spotted. It should have been spotted by me or one of the Mods so sorry.... Lol it turns out that a tally I'm the cunt eh!?!! If you see anything like that again then please report the post or PM myse
F or any EADD Mod.

 

[wcote]

Well light tan is still doing the rounds, good to see. thank god it came about as at the moment, it seems to be the standard gear, for a couple of weeks before things were not looking great!

Hopefully quality will improve, speaking to a dude who works at the drugs center, and he has seen test results on gear, and 'scientifcaly' in oxford the gear has been on the rise in general over the year, but speciaclly this period, things have also gotten better than a few weeks ago!

Matte the rain is not cool. right about 2 have some mince pies, then some brandy %)

Yeah glitched I have experience with benzos, a good rule of thumb is if you have a good nod, but the 'rush' before hand wasnt to great then benzos or another downer was mixed in.

I enjoy a good nod, so thats why im happy with my man, its less intense rush, but the nod is better than the light tan that most other folks have!

il PM you later.