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Heroin Social: Version 5

What a fuk up , i gotta go 2 the other sidwe of the city to ;pick up my meth when these delivery bods come their 2 hours late atm, n when i grt their i can score , but i gotta go to the needle exchanfe on the other side of the city before it shuts n i can gert better gear over their , fuk itr'll just play out how it does i suppose i'm rough as fuk atm.

I'll score cos the meth takes at least an hour to work n i can't be fuked waiting when i feel like this.
 
Ah its so annoying when your feeling proper rough and you have to take your script to feel better, no instant relief like heroin..... mind you when you have the meth/subbies I find at least your brain stops completely fucking you over! well thats what i found! :\

I think subbies are a bit quicker though, even sublingual.

Goin to score but will it be the ok light tan...... fucking better be, that shit I had last friday or thursday I nearly cried. :!
 
That's sounds like a right hassle for you brimz, I hate feeling rough! Hope you get thinks sorted for you mate :)
 
Yeah so that was mental !

Worth it though , decided to go on the long ting , i was back by 13:30 i'vr just come round from a gouch , it was well nice wxcept my neck is hurting n i haven't got great circulation cos i've been in the same position for hours !!
Seriously really strong kit , the guy at the excange said that it aws getting stronger 8o He was talking about recent info that they had be given by the police .

He said that earlier this year when a load of busts went down , the gear was beetween 6 n 8 % , but recently (last month or so ) it had gone up to 20/25 %. I believe him cos all the dates were tied in with the police operations that went down .

So i rekon 20/25 is not bad , not like it once was , in the 90s it was common for street gear to be 40/60 % in this part of the country.
 
Well I see no reason myself to disbelieve the 20-25% figures, so that good news then. :)

If gear is 6-8% a .2 would contain about 12-16mg of heroin, so that means that 3 packs of codeine with CWE would be the equivalent dosage, say 500MG out of potential 660mg of Codeine!

That is using morphine IV'd then doubling the dose as diamorphine is 1.5 to twice as strong

Im not claiming to be correct at all.... i have used conversion, and basic maths.

So dont just say thats bullshit, without checking things out for yourself.
 
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Has anyone tried that ODT stuff to see if it is able to hold anyone with a habit, or even if it can be felt or enjoyed by someone with a h habit?
 
strungout2010 said:
@charlie
Just like our notorious Dr brewer at the stapleford clinic , who regularly put people on 200 ml +.
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....+palfium,amps,MSt what a wanker, he fucked up alot of people.

Re coughs - when i had a habit from smoking I had a permenent bronchial cough.

Good gear still, sandy coloured and should be around for a while - trouble is waiting for a cheque to clear and already got tick so hopefully tomorrow.
 
hello every one!! seasons greetings one and all, i dont have much news at the mo, i work every evening now so i dont be on the computer ... its lovely to be in the bosom of bl once more..... anyone else hate the wankers at the job centre plus?
 
Hi PP , yeah the DWP , kin ell i've been dealing with them of late . Its not like it was ten years ago , everything is over the phone these days , i was on hold 45 mins just to give a change of circumstances and they still want it in writting .

Gotta give em some kudos for the CCG though , not many folk get them these days. I met all the criteria but that doesn't always mean you will get it.

I'm a bit of a pro at benefits tbh , i have been dealing with them since 97 n i worked for em as well for a couple of months as a teenager , it was a right eye opener . I learnt that civil Servants can get away with being really inept at their job and keep it , while still repeating the same mistakes every day.
Their are about 25% of the office that end up poicking up the slack for all the rest , its mad & i wouldn't believe it till i saw it.
 
Good old Dr brewer asked you what you wanted, gave it to you there. asked you to sit In the waitin room for a couple of hours , and basically if you didn't die , off you went with your big OL script.
You paid your money you could have what you wanted, I think by the time he got struck off he had 14 deaths on his hands. And wasn't responsible for one.......... Apparently.
 
I just got back from the gruesome 3 day journey to court
had to mention this-the gear that the guy got caught with(that I allegedly sent) was tested as 52%
not bad really
 
strungout2010 said:
Good old Dr brewer asked you what you wanted, gave it to you there. asked you to sit In the waitin room for a couple of hours , and basically if you didn't die , off you went with your big OL script.
You paid your money you could have what you wanted, I think by the time he got struck off he had 14 deaths on his hands. And wasn't responsible for one.......... Apparently.
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......apparently, thats why i called him a wanker - if you coulod pay he'd give you what you wanted loike S.O said no week titration 2 h in his waiting room only thinng he wouldnt script was benzos fuck knows why
 
No, it's not quite as simple as that.

Brewer did what we all say we want doctors to do. He treated addicts like regular patients and human beings. Unfortunately, such is the cynicism engendered by the state drug treatment system a bunch of lying scrotes exaggerated their required dosage. In real, if you play that game and overdose, you don't blame the doctor. The shortcomings lie with the 'private' bit; he could hardly ask fee-paying clients to travel what were often considerable distances for daily supervised consumption daily for a month; no matter what private doctors do to ensure the veracity of their clients, some will slip through the checks.

Brewer and co were caring physicians who set out to fill a gap in British drug provision and make it possible for stable, in work narcotic dependents to obtain their drugs legally and without stigmatisation. A white market, such is the state of things, begat a black one and Brewer paid the price. But he certainly does not deserve to be called a 'wanker' by anybody on here.
 
Dr Brewer example is not rare in the Private Health care in the UK, if you want to get yourself a DR who will prescribed opiates you can get it. its just to expensive for most folks.
 
Unfortunately Charlie that is the nature of a large number of addicts, they are a bunch of lying scrotes, and they are the ones who will stop any change to drug treatment.
I know a few people who went to brewer, and only 2 of them took there meds correctly, the others sold ,swapped or took the lot in 1 day.
 
You know I think the stories people have told about Dr Brewer are exaggerated.

I'm a current patient at the Stapleford clinic and I imagine the way the current doctors run it is pretty much the same as when Dr Brewer was there.... that's why I haven't been on BL for most of the year. The drought forced me to get some proper help.
 
strungout2010 said:
Unfortunately Charlie that is the nature of a large number of addicts, they are a bunch of lying scrotes, and they are the ones who will stop any change to drug treatment.
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So many of these misapprehensions are rooted in language. Lying and cheating indicate a junk person, not a user of drug that, for reasons debatable, is nicknamed 'junk'. There's a psychology involved, too - criminal types are attracted to narcotics less for their medicinal potential than because they are a criminalised activity - dress in black and you'll prefer black boots.Again, we curse the user-vendors rather than wonder why they find such a ready market. If instead the right questions were asked, we'd return to Rolleston in an instant.

Drugs, as everyone knows, can skew your judgment and even send you mad. What's extraordinary is you don't even have to take them. You've only listen to peoples' opinions on 'drugs' to observe minds at warp. There's no area like it if you want to learn just how conditioned, accidentally or otherwise, homo sapiens has become. Ah well, I understand it's worse in North Korea.
 
JayRiddley2 said:
You know I think the stories people have told about Dr Brewer are exaggerated.

I'm a current patient at the Stapleford clinic and I imagine the way the current doctors run it is pretty much the same as when Dr Brewer was there.... that's why I haven't been on BL for most of the year. The drought forced me to get some proper help.
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there is no exageration - the stapleford now is totally different and expensive it only scripts 'done and MST in amps if wanted.(i see a doc in Harley st and he only charges £100 p/m I think the SF is £175) the trouble with Brewer was that he over prescribed narcs with no obervation and no discipline and no education on what you were taking .apart from myself I know 2 others who saw him 1 od'd on peaches the other is no better than he was when he went there. People saw the place as somewhere to legitimently buy drugs not to get off them it was a business not a surgery. Unless you went there you cant reaqlly understand the atmoshere there it was like a shop - I cant actually remember but i might have even got dikes from him - all opiates/opiods not necessary for any addict. It was a cash cow no more no less.
oh and btw its still very very difficault to get DM from a private script no more easy or hard than going thro the NHS.
 
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blondin said:
there is no exageration - the stapleford now is totally different and expensive it only scripts 'done and MST in amps if wanted.(i see a doc in Harley st and he only charges £100 p/m I think the SF is £175) the trouble with Brewer was that he over prescribed narcs with no obervation and no discipline and no education on what you were taking .apart from myself I know 2 others who saw him 1 od'd on peaches the other is no better than he was when he went there. People saw the place as somewhere to legitimently buy drugs not to get off them it was a business not a surgery. Unless you went there you cant reaqlly understand the atmoshere there it was like a shop - I cant actually remember but i might have even got dikes from him - all opiates/opiods not necessary for any addict. It was a cash cow no more no less.
oh and btw its still very very difficault to get DM from a private script no more easy or hard than going thro the NHS.
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Well, some of the stories I have heard about Dr Brewer are totally unbelievable. I don't think it's anything to do with the clinic for them to not prescribe diamorph. Sure they only prescribe methadone or mst (both available as amps or tabs). I'm scripted MST amps and tabs, I was originally just scripted 3x60mg MST amps but have been trying to reduce over time. There is plenty of other options of treatment/medication type available if you ask.
They will script you for benzos if you are already scripted them somewhere else.
I don't really understand what you would expect them to prescribe?

You say you pay £100 p/m well the stapleford is £32.50/wk so £130/month. However for that you get 30mins of time at the clinic each week which can be used either wit the doctor or with the psychologist. Obviously it's private so you have to pay for your medication as well. So it's not a huge difference to what your paying and there's the added benefit of the psychologist.
 
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