Heroin, Smoked v Snorted v Shot

[John Candy]

Hey all, in Melbourne Aust we get the white solid variety of heroin which lends itself to all 3 methods of injesting. The single that you buy is a white rock about 3-4 mils square and about 2 mils thick. I have only done it once and I shot it. I broke this single into 3 pices and shot it over the course of 1 night and felt the last one quite well, however as it was near bed time I got quite tired and couldn't keep my eyes open so I went to bed and just blissed out for a while.

My question is how do you prefer to take heroin like this? Would you have to snort the whole thing at once to get the effect of shooting half? What about smoking? Would you need substantialy more of the heroin in these routes compared to shooting?

I ask because I don't want to shoot it, but if I'm gonna get more out of it this way I will. I would be pretty pissed if I bought a single, took it home, snorted it and be left feeling like I needed another one.

Thanks.

 

[inimical]

pin it

 

[aloowishus]

^^^^^^^
What??

If you snort it you'll get fuck all out of it.Smoke it,gear in Melbourne is certainly good enough--It's not THAT far removed from shooting,just make sure you use a proper oil pipe--fuck foil

 

[ebeneezer_geeza]

the one you're refering to is No 4 heroin = shoot it.

No 3 in the UK and most of europe = smoke or snort it

I know there are many who will argue but that's my opinions after 13yrs of the damn stuff.

 

[Shleprock]

dope

dude ive been on the shit for 3 years and its the fuckin worst mistake i ever made givin myself a habit, dont play with fire unless u wanna get BURNED. But anyways myself i will only sniff it maybee smoke it. Onlyhave one thing to be proud of from the whole thing, that i havent shot it, oh ive been tempted cus the shit dont work the way it used to but sniffin its no good cus my fuckin nose is destroyed.

 

[aloowishus]

^^^^^^^^^^^

Shleprock,just because you fucked up doesn't mean Mr Candy will.
I've used for 7 years and for the last 4 i've only used about twice a month and i don't hang out AT ALL when it's finished,fuck living in an opiate haze all the time again,on the other hand i'm not aware of anyone else that does this,probably because they are as invisible as me??
Contrary to what people think occvasional use can be done.
Enjoy and be careful

 

[Miles323]

Re: dope

dude ive been on the shit for 3 years and its the fuckin worst mistake i ever made givin myself a habit, dont play with fire unless u wanna get BURNED. But anyways myself i will only sniff it maybee smoke it. Onlyhave one thing to be proud of from the whole thing, that i havent shot it, oh ive been tempted cus the shit dont work the way it used to but sniffin its no good cus my fuckin nose is destroyed.

Let me second this opinion, but from the other side of the line. The first time you stick a needle in your arm, you cross a line which, once crossed, can never, ever be uncrossed. No u-turns. A healthy fear of the needle is most likely a good thing. Many of us get addicted to the ritual of shooting up, as well as to the drug itself. There is nothing in the world as pathetic as a dopeless junkie shooting water just to be able to "play".

But that's just my opinion.

Miles

Thank you for reading my little posting.

 

[ebeneezer_geeza]

^I agree that IV'ing is crossing an line that u cant go back from.

Although in the past i have prolly iv'd close maybe 3000 times and i have never shot up just water. then again i havent even shot up illicit drugs, only prescribed opiates.

Has anyone here really shot up just water? if so, why? What does this do for you?

 

[vicodelicious]

if you have to be shootin water when you're out of dope, just to go through the motions of cooking it, drawing into the needle etc... you've got a real problem.

yeah and what does it feel like to put water in your veins...?

 

[Miles323]

if you have to be shootin water when you're out of dope, just to go through the motions of cooking it, drawing into the needle etc... you've got a real problem.

Well, duh...

yeah and what does it feel like to put water in your veins...?

If you've shot up thousands of times, to the point of having a kind of body-memory that associates the needle with feeling great, then maybe you get a little bit of a placebo-buzz from going through the ritual. Maybe. One thing is for sure: after you've gone far enough down that road, when you have to give a blood sample, you no longer look away like a normal person, but watch in sick fascination as the nurse sticks the (huge!) needle in (and maybe find yourself criticizing his or her technique... I've never done it, but I've been tempted to grab the damn thing and say, "here, let me do it.").

Miles

Thank you for reading my little posting.

 

[geetered]

IV-use will definitely get the most out of your dope.

 

[inimical]

wow miles

 

[ebeneezer_geeza]

Miles, i must be unusual then. I get no thrill from a nurse stickin a needle in me, unless i can see her cleavage.

I have heard of ppl getting conditioned like this, but like i say i have done thousands of hits and never got off on having anything other than physeptone or pharm H in the syringe.

At one point i was iv'ing 6 times a day. I have done so on/off since 1996 so thats 6 yrs. My arms have a few tiny scars but arent noticable unless you really look. I did have a deep hole on my other arm (see tatoo on gallery) but this convered it. I aint never fucked up my veins like that pic on Imicals gallery.

I value my health and like the look of my body too much. I do know addicts who get a sick feeling when they see a rig (classical conditioning). I know addicts who's arms are covered in scars and trax.

I guess i am glad i a) only ever used what was designed to be iv'ed and only used small rigs and Allways took care on doing it properely. Although i wish i hadnt tried it - makes ones habit rocket. Oh, BTW i also have never hit any other drug like coke, speed or street H.

I dont think i would ever have done it if i hadnt been prescribed pharm H from a doc. The only way this can be really done is by IV.

 

[Negro-kitty]

I disagree about IVing being a line you can't cross back from...it is certainly hard to do but I know several who have done it.

 

[Miles323]

I disagree about IVing being a line you can't cross back from...it is certainly hard to do but I know several who have done it.

I certainly did not mean to imply that once you have IVed you will never be able to stop. Rather, I was making reference to the observation that many people are conditioned in childhood to abhor needles; whether because of unpleasant immunization injections or endless anti-drug propaganda, many "normal" people simply hate the idea of sticking a needle into themselves. This is probably a healthy attitude. But when a person with a propensity for addiction progresses from taking his DoC orally or nasally to intravenously, then that negative attitude towards needles falls by the wayside. Injecting drugs is then no longer unthinkable. The barrier has fallen.

That's what I meant!

Miles

Thank you for reading my little posting.

 

[smakaddict]

cotton shots... a tiny bit of dope that u get from the old cotton and the crap still stuck on the spoon.. + a lot of water.. i've done that enough times to be considered pathetic. and yes i have shot up straight water before too.. rarely, tho.
it sucks. the needle is evil.. maybe more addictive than the dope itself.

Love,
-H

 

[Ampheta-me]

For myself, shooting is a line that I don't believe I'll ever cross because I find drugs difficult enough to manage even without the instant rush. It seems like after trying it you're stuck with two bad options: 1) Return to snorting/smoking which probably isn't so impressive anymore 2) Keep shooting, which just can't be a good thing...

Doesn't mean it's impossible to shoot and happily go back to other routes, can't say I've tried though...

 

[ebeneezer_geeza]

cotton shots... a tiny bit of dope that u get from the old cotton and the crap still stuck on the spoon.. + a lot of water.. i've done that enough times to be considered pathetic. and yes i have shot up straight water before too.. rarely, tho.
it sucks. the needle is evil.. maybe more addictive than the dope itself.

Love,
-H

i am curious, did you actually get off by using straight water, in an placebo way?

 

[ebeneezer_geeza]

i go with smakaddict on this, i think it really does change things and to some it is evil. Lack of knowledge seems to be the cause of most harm when it comes to IV. i am lucky that i knew what i was doing and i am relatively unscathed. But without doubt iv increased my habit, for example - before i iv'd i was on 20mg of 'done a day or smoked about 100mg of pure pharm smack. Then i decided to hit the pharm H and went upto 200mg of IV physeptone amoules and about 200mg and about 60mg x 4 of pharm H a day. Sitting here now i can beleive that i have just hit up a 50mg amp (have done this with too much regularity of late) when i managed to maintain myself for the past 4 months on just 2mg of bupe.

In many ways BL and other sites that promote harm reduction and share knowledge on how to IV properly may help save life and limbs. Its a sad fact that most users/addicts do not come across adequate information about how to IV. Its sad that where i live clinics dont even offer advice - only plenty of needles, at least ppl get free needles and other equipment in the UK. Sadly not many other countries. Hopefully things will change.

Although BL info and others may have a trickle down effect and end up getting to those who dont use or own computers and are in need of this sort of info.

Fucking needles. The drug to me is bad enough - but then theres the rush which you cant get by not iv'ing.

 

[ChemicalBro]

Well, I IVed H first, the first time, and haven't IVed it since, but I can't say I haven't wanted to. Lucky for me I don't have any friends really into that now. I'm not going to sit here and recomend that you shoot up, but you already have, and in an honest answer to your question, snorting it doesn't even seem like the same thing, from my very limited experience. I haven't tried smoking it yet, however.