Heroin... quick questions.

[dilated_pupils]

I've been thinking about trying heroin lately, and after a recent dream where I indulged myself into trying heroin, and feeling amazing in my dream, it has pushed me that much further into wanting to try it.

If I come across someone selling, and I buy a point (typically $10-$20 for .1g), do I want to do that whole line? Or do I want to start even smaller then that? Obviously I want to be careful here and not OD my first time using heroin, but I also want to experience a decent nod. My weight is 130, I'm skinny as all hell if that matters. Also, if anyone has some quick advice for first time use, that'd be great. I know that it's addicting, I know that smoking it your first time is safer (harder to OD), but I'm only planning on buying .1g, and that's if I can even find someone selling it. Thanks.

 

[staypuft]

don't do it...

 

[rocklobster]

If you are railing, start off with little bumps the size of matchstick heads. Do more only if you feel you need to; give it an hour between doses until you get the hang of it; don't feel the need to rush.

 

[Abraxus]

To be safe, don't take the whole thing at once. It depends on the potency but if you run in to some potent dope, even as little as .1g can be dangerous. Heroin also has a tendency to make new users sick if they take enough to nod. I would break it up in to 4 piles and do the first bump and wait about 25 minutes to half an hour, and then do the next one if needed and so on. Most first time heroin users do not like it because it makes them nauseous. Remember its not coke, so you're not going to feel it immediately after you snort it. This all really depends on where you are, and the quality of dope you have access to.

 

[SmokeTrails]

i skiped the whole snorting thing and went right for the rig personally...

the first time and first time only i did half a cap... but ever since then it was always one... two... and at the hight of my addiction 4....

thank god im sober now... that shit got expensive

if i where u id throw half of it in a rig and see how it treets you... if you dont feel the desired effects slam the other half of the cap

 

[LoveAlways]

dont do it!

 

[davjac]

dont do it!

Do it! I don't think he will listen when you say "Dont do it!".

 

[Carl Landrover]

Have you done any opiates before? How much oxy would you do if you were using that in this situation?

I'd start off by railing 1/4 - 1/3 of a $10 bag. You can always blow more, never less.

If you want to nod, you'll have a good window of time to do more so you can still achieve that if the initial amount is too little. I'd say wait a minimum of 20 minutes after blowing the first line before doing anymore.

Best to start off slow if you're a beginner.

 

[Diacetylus]

To all of those that are saying, "don't do it!", he will probably want to take it more after hearing that. Saying something like that reinforces the belief that the high would feel great.

If you are going to do it, and if you're in the States, I would recommend not taking anywhere near as much as .1.
I've heard that at the moment the Heroin in U.S.A. is really, really potent, so I wouldn't take any more than a quarter to start off with.
If you're snorting, wait something like 15 minutes before you re-dose... because it can sometimes take a while to kick in even if you snort it.
If you want to take the whole lot, then try smoking it. It's really, very hard to Overdose from smoking Heroin, even if you have no tolerance and you have alot.
Smoking it will also produce the most rapid effects.
Just be careful and don't fool yourself into thinking that you won't get addicted if you use it for a few days consecutively.

 

[Abraxus]

To all of those that are saying, "don't do it!", he will probably want to take it more after hearing that. Saying something like that reinforces the belief that the high would feel great.

If you are going to do it, and if you're in the States, I would recommend not taking anywhere near as much as .1.
I've heard that at the moment the Heroin in U.S.A. is really, really potent, so I wouldn't take any more than a quarter to start off with.
If you're snorting, wait something like 15 minutes before you re-dose... because it can sometimes take a while to kick in even if you snort it.
If you want to take the whole lot, then try smoking it. It's really, very hard to Overdose from smoking Heroin, even if you have no tolerance and you have alot.
Smoking it will also produce the most rapid effects.
Just be careful and don't fool yourself into thinking that you won't get addicted if you use it for a few days consecutively.

I agree with most of what you said here except that it takes a lot longer than a few days to get addicted to heroin. I would say it would take a month or two depending on how much you're using and whether you are snorting or IVing. Mental addiction is another thing all together if the OP loves heroin as soon as he starts. Some people find opiates particularly alluring when they start using, others don't.

Also, smoking may or may not be effective depending on where he is located. When I first came in to contact with the white heroin of the Philadelphia area I tried my best to smoke it, and I never had any luck. It just burned. I find that most people I know have not had any luck smoking white. And this stuff was relatively pure as Phila is known for having potent heroin. So I started off snorting small bumps until I came to a dose that made me comfortable. The first few times I puked, but that soon went away. It took a long time of using occasionally before I woke up sick one day from withdrawal. For me and most people I know, the path to addiction is a gradual process. Recently I have been able to effectively chip but more than 5-6 days of daily use, and I will start to get sick when I stop again.

 

[Battie]

most of what i'd recommend has already been said by numerous folks above. start low, go slow. you can always take more. and be wary of using heroin a bit too frequently, for obvious reasons.

personally, i prefer not to smoke it. these days i love my IV, but my first heroin experience was snorting it.

 

[edarrin]

A lot also depends on your drug use history. You come across as a relative non significant prior drug use history type so I would maybe do half. To little and you won't get any effect likely unless you're really sensitive. It would help greatly if you knew the relative purity of the product in your area. for example if the purity was 40% then half would be 20mg of actual H so that would be a good place to start safely but successfully as well.

Otherwise it's pretty hard to give a usefull answer . That's one of the major problems of prohibition IMO. Lack of quality control.

 

[Papaverace]

And please do not fool yourself with this crap: Wow, it wasn't so bad, but I'm not THAT impressed. As I'm not going to start an addiction, I can safely take it in the weekends...I will watch out for signs of addiction, and stop then...

That road to being a junkie is much more common than the "This-was-so-fantastic-I-want-to-do-this-always" type of addiction.

 

[Institutionalizer]

To all of those that are saying, "don't do it!", he will probably want to take it more after hearing that. Saying something like that reinforces the belief that the high would feel great..

true.

still: first time i railed it i did .25 and it was just halv as good as a somewhat decent morphine nod. and by the way your talking; about "finding someone who will sell you a .1 dose.. you are much likely to get hustled and youll get crap, leading you to get right back out to get some better stuff + upping your dose, which might lead to you ODing if you happen to get better quality.
id say: wait and do it together with someone you knows what it is, cause that seem to be the major issue when doin H: quality. obviusly what i got what crap. and for the money i payed i could have had a real nice nod of what i call the real thing: Morphine. they come in pills and cant be cut.

good luck, play safe, and dont be stupid. we all get stupid when the urge to get high gets too big, but try and stick to that relatively smart part of your brain. and stay away from that needle. you dont need it to have fun

 

[dilated_pupils]

Well I don't really have anyone I can get a supply from, so if I do get ahold of some, it will be a once in a while thing (if that).

Opiate wise, I've done oxy's. I would just snort small amount (20mg) to hold me over while I was out of coke.

Thank you guys for the quick answers, I will end up breaking the .1g into 4 equal parts, and bumping them out seperately.

You guys saying "don't do it" don't make me want to do it more, and I understand why you are telling me not too, but I've wanted to try it and no one I am around, nor hang out with does it. I live near Philadelphia, and since NJ has some very potent dope, I'm assuming that they have some good stuff around here.

Anyway, if I end up aquiring some, I will let you all know how it goes.

Thanks again.

*edit - Wanted to add, I despise needles and would never be able to inject anything, including heroin. And I know "I say that now..." but I'm completely serious, I would never be able to inject anything in me, nor let someone else do it, unless it was something I needed medically (obviously).

 

[Emily]

uhhh yeah I wouldn't chose to start a heroin addiction but if you snort it you'll eventually end up shooting it and soon enough you'll be addicted.

if you do it don't do it 3 days in a row.

 

[dilated_pupils]

If I do it, it's going to be used, then not worried about for a while. I've been there with addiction before (coke) and I have no intention of going back, as I learned a lot from it.

 

[Abraxus]

uhhh yeah I wouldn't chose to start a heroin addiction but if you snort it you'll eventually end up shooting it and soon enough you'll be addicted.

if you do it don't do it 3 days in a row.

This is a pretty big generalization, no? Niot everyone that ever snorted heroin went on to shooting it. There are plently of people that try heroin and don't get addicted. I personally know several people that have done heroin several times and just don't like it. Some people get addicted to snorting or smoking it and never inject.

Also, is 3 days in a row some kind of magic number? You can't develop a physical dependency in 3 days. Just curious as to what you mean by this. I've had an addiction to heroin in the past, and if I use now for more than about 10 days I will have mild withdrawal upon stopping, but if you've never had a habit, it takes a lot longer to get addicted.

Heroin is like any other drug. It can be used casually and it can be abused. It really comes down to the individual. Would you give these kinds of broad generalizations to someone who is contemplating using oxies or other opiates? Because they are all really the same when you come down to it.

 

[-=navel=-]

yeah everybody totally advocates pharmaceutical opiates but looks down on heroin.
H will give a much better high than all those weak pills.

 

[HYDRO_CHRONIC]

morphine just made me sick everytime i tried it ,H made me NOD quickly ,and i got sick in the morning ,but im not dicouraged ...if i had a GOOD connect for oxy ,well i do but what the hell is wrong with people and charging TOP FUCKING DOLLAR FOR PILLS ,one guy in maryland wanted 6 for generic 10mg perc ,and $12 for NAME brand cause it said PERCOCET on it .....my god ,thats why i started doin dope ,CHEAPER