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Heroin/Opioid Thread - Serious Discussion Only

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Speaking of doses required for suboxone, I was completely comfortable on just 1mg when I took some for poppy tea withdrawals a couple of months ago.
 
I think that i got put on 32mgs because I was allowed to be! Day one 8mg , day two - you need more? Why yes, im an addict, ill take more. Day 3 - repeat. Day 4 - they pull the plug - you end up at 32mg. How many addicts you know that turn down MORE when offered ? :/
 
ive been on suboxone and methadone...........getting on methadone was like trading in a monkey for a gorilla........metaphorically speaking........heroin withdrawal for me lasted 5-7 days at most............i recently talked with a detox center in FL........21 days minimum to get me off methadone........i just dont have 3 weeks to go away and get off a drug that i got hooked on to get off another drug...........i think im just going to go up to the Michigan medical detox place where they do the detox under general anesthesia, and i would only be up there for 4 days, but not ALL of the W/D's go away, thats why its not covered by ANY type of insurance and its $6700. With that said, any feedback would be appreciated......should I get the naltrexone implant if i do decide to do the 4 day detox as opposed to going to a center for three weeks. And which one would you do (money is not a factor, but will pay for the 21 day detox, not the 4 day).......thanks BL'erz!!!
 
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I think that i got put on 32mgs because I was allowed to be! Day one 8mg , day two - you need more? Why yes, im an addict, ill take more. Day 3 - repeat. Day 4 - they pull the plug - you end up at 32mg. How many addicts you know that turn down MORE when offered ? :/
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But the suboxone doesn't really even get you high... does it?? That is the main reason I would NEVER take more than I need to. But I absolutely hear what you are saying, I mean I was/am an addict- and once an addict always an addict... I posted that quasi-warning to let ppl know that if they try a lower dose they most likely will find that they can 'get by' without it. Like I said, this is for those that are serious about getting off opiates or at least depending on them as little as possible.

Now once a doc gets you on 32 mg, which for most is far too much (it is the ceiling dose), it is THAT MUCH harder for you to get free of the drug. Of course this means more visits for your doctor, and more $$ in his pocket. OTOH, at least being maintained on ANY dose of buprenorphine (suboxone/subutex) is better than methadone... i am so glad i did not stay at the clinic long.

Take infamouz's word for it.... anyone with an opiate habit is making it worse by going to the methadone cliinic. Plus you are giving up your personal freedom, kinda. Just be aware, BLers...
 
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But the suboxone doesn't really even get you high... does it?? That is the main reason I would NEVER take more than I need to. But I absolutely hear what you are saying, I mean I was/am an addict- and once an addict always an addict... I posted that quasi-warning to let ppl know that if they try a lower dose they most likely will find that they can 'get by' without it. Like I said, this is for those that are serious about getting off opiates or at least depending on them as little as possible.

Now once a doc gets you on 32 mg, which for most is far too much (it is the ceiling dose), it is THAT MUCH harder for you to get free of the drug. Of course this means more visits for your doctor, and more $$ in his pocket. OTOH, at least being maintained on ANY dose of buprenorphine (suboxone/subutex) is better than methadone... i am so glad i did not stay at the clinic long.

Take infamouz's word for it.... anyone with an opiate habit is making it worse by going to the methadone cliinic. Plus you are giving up your personal freedom, kinda. Just be aware, BLers...
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The more pills I had - the less I took, the more I sold - the more dope I bought, it just made sense. I ended up on 220mg methadone - kicked that and would NEVER EVER go to a clinic again, fuckin 6:30 am waitin in line on xmas day ? Fuck that - 3 years of that hell was enough bro, I'm all set. I try to just keep my binges down these days - thats not workin to well :(
 
well I started using again for liver / kidney problems - (ocs) - I'm taking a 3 week break, my birthday is next month, I'm taking ultram for the pain. This leaves me hurting but it's better than going through w/d's and building up a tolerance I cannot afford. These three weeks cannot go fast enough though :(
 
I dont have any plans of relapsing anytime soon so I should be totally clean from dope for Ocsober :)

Getting that job interview really made me happy , I'm finally getting back on track
 
To anyone ITT who hasn't heard the rumours, TDS is planning on doing an "Octsober" event, where we plan to stay as sober/clean/harm-free as much as possible for the upcoming month. There's no real public literature posted yet about it, only gossip. But it's going to happen. We're just finishing up exactly how it's going to run. It's not going to be a dicksizing event, nor a competition. And by no means a zero-tolerance thing. Just a bunch of us regulars making an attempt to use less than more (though some intend to do it all sober, if possible). And feed off of each others' efforts and pledges. It's largely drawing participants from the alcohol thread, but it's meant for all topics covered in this forum. And we want more people than less!
 
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Sounds cool man! I know that bun will be gone before the first, then maybe I could just stick to suboxone/weed (been fooling around with uppers lately).

I'd love to just be on weed and only weed by the end of Octsober.
 
Octsober sounds like a great idea, I will be using for my bday in oct - but aside from that I will be running clean until then, getting my tolerance low and my head back. I think that's a wonderful idea to set something like that up btw.
 
How the fuck do i quit and stay off opiates???

First of all this is so fucked up i want to quit but i dont want to quit.

I know they are ruining my life but i simply DO not want to quit.. My life sucks because of them ... I have no friends, nothing, no one

ive been to 7 rehabs this is bull shit... I feel like one day this addiction is gonna just lead me to kill myself because there is no other way out...


Its like they said in AA i cannot imagine my life with opiates i cannot imagine my life without them...... LOL its really not funny i guess its sad and pathetic....

Opiates

The beginning the middle and the end......
 
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^ :(

I've felt like that sometimes during my worst times with alcohol. In many ways, severe alcohol addiction and severe opiate addiction are similar. It's a roller-coaster of both physical and emotional pain. The good times start shrinking and shrinking, and the bad times, well you know. And yet you don't stop...

When you went to the rehabs, did you stay the full time? I am guessing you were stabilized, at least a bit...What I am getting at is that sometimes it takes years of not touching a single opiate for people to feel normal again. Years. Is it worth it? A few years of struggle, for a future of greener pastures? Sure :)

Have you ever just "done something" on a whim, and not worried about the consequences? Dropped your nerves and kissed your crush? It's kinda like that. Only it takes a long time of "faith" that things will be okay. But they can and will be. In this case, most crushes kiss back ;)

So your next detox/rehab effort, go through the program and once you feel like you're ready to leave, stay sober. Find a way. Often the centers will work with you to help find sober environments. Teach you how to make life changes to find happiness in other ways, and not find opiates as a comfort when things go bad. And you WILL find that you wake up one morning, and again it might take months or sever years, with the realization that you've made it. That the change actually happened. And it will be the most euphoric feeling of your life -- way better than any opiate high.

This all sounds "cheesy" like "something for other people" probably to you now. But a lot of former addicts could have written a post like yours during their worst points, and then a few years later actually like saying positive stuff about sobriety and the achievements they made in recovery.

You CAN do this. You can. My heart goes out to ya!
 
Circ113 I am with ya dude. I use poppy tea and although it has been fucking things up for me time and time again, I just don't want to quit. I have been withdrawing myself from society, I don't go out and do things anymore because I am either in withdrawal, or not high enough to bother going out. The fucked up part is that this is the way it has been for over a year now.

I have quit and derived a little bit of pleasure from being away from poppy tea for a week or two, but I always get to thinking about how high I would get if I went back and it never fails to eat away at my mind until I relapse. Then we all know where that goes.

The other problem for me is that I started using opiates in the first place because I was finding sober life to be a more and more miserable existence. Quit the opiates and I am back to square 1, leading a largely unfulfilling with no money, no dreams, and worst of all - chronic pain.
 
So everyday since Tuesday, I've blown off more and more shit and have been consuming lots of drugs.


Bought another bundle yesterday. Guess I went on vacation this week, prob should have told school and work.

I'm completely lying to everyone.


I'm a model of what NOT to do. I'll say this, I was really stressed and wasn't that happy, but things were going alright at least. Now I'm going to have some major damage control to do..........later. This second bun is better than the first and it's keepin' me going.
 
I ended up on 220mg methadone - kicked that and would NEVER EVER go to a clinic again, fuckin 6:30 am waitin in line on xmas day ? Fuck that -
Um - is that worse than having to supply a heroin habit that costs x amount more and has to be supplied 3 times a day from unreliable sources?
It pisses me off that no-one on methadone ever seems to remember how intolerable life was before they got onto the program.
 
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