Heroin Heroin + nicotine

[Soccertrendy]

Does anyone know wht smiking after takin heroin seems to potentiate/bringthe effect on stronger. And why does heroin seem to make you want to smoke more.

I only really seem to smoke loads while im under the influence of heroin.

would be really interested to find out why?

S

 

[sekio]

Does anyone know why smoking after takin heroin seems to potentiate/bring the effect on stronger.

Nicotine (and the other alkaloids in tobacco smoke) potentiate the euphoric properties of opioids by increasing dopamine release.

As for why you like smoking while on opiates, perhaps it's simple associative learning. You know that smoking makes opiate highs feel good, so that's what you do.

 

[Soccertrendy]

Thanks

 

[bobbaybrown]

Also I don't know about you, but any drug I do makes me want a cigarette(drinking especially). That is why its so hard for me to quit smoking. I feel like I would need to quit everything else first.


Oh and try smoking marijuana after doing heroin. It more than doubles the effect and more than quadrouples the length of the high. Its almost impossible for me to get high and stay high unless I smoke some weed afterwards.

 

[bananamana]

i feel the need to smoke constantly on hard. but at the same time when i do it makes me super dope nauseus and almost have to force myself not to do it

 

[mrflowers00]

smokes make my highs less intense

 

[habboz]

I remember when i first started using opiates I would get sick if I smoked cigarettes, but just about any change in mindset makes you smoke more..

 

[Mind-Melt]

i was under the impression that smoking cigarettes onsets the release of (more) beta-endorphin(s) into the neurotransmitter pool, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. Combined with the heroin this creates a "stronger" effect in some aspects. Personally I just get more nauseous.

 

[DrCrumbs]

Woah it makes me kinda sick and sweaty also. I had no idea smoking had this effect on everyone. I notice that the negative effects only last about 5 or 10 minutes. I too like to smoke more while using.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Also I don't know about you, but any drug I do makes me want a cigarette(drinking especially). That is why its so hard for me to quit smoking. I feel like I would need to quit everything else first.

I feel the same way, everything else just makes me wish I had a cigarette. I've quit and gone back to them three times now, and I always slipped up because I went to a bar or something. One night turned into two, then into a week...so on and so forth.

I've also noted the increase in pleasure when an opiate and nicotine are combined, same with alcohol and cannabis as well. I always assumed it was like that for two reasons;

1) As noted by others, it does release chemicals into your system that make you feel good.

2) Its a habit, doing the habit makes me feel good. Its the same thing with ROAs, I know snorting certain substances is a waste but just the whole act of crushing a pill up and tooting it brings on instant pleasure. Its like a fetish.

I also go through more cigarettes when I'm high on opiates, most people I know are the same way. Limiting myself is useless, if they're around I'm going to smoke them, so I just enjoy and lay off the next day to even things out and save some extra cash.

One odd thing to note about cannabis + nicotine: I get a "rush" about half way through the cigarette and get very stoned for about 15-30 minutes afterwards, then at that point, the high is diminished and I feel the need to toke again. If I don't smoke a cigarette after toking the high isn't as intense but it lasts a lot longer. The local friends report similar happenings. Anyone else feel that way with cannabis or other drugs when combined with nicotine?

 

[cheap L]

I usually only smoke on heroin. it's how people catch on that i'm using unfortunately. it seems to me that I can't smell the cigarette on smack and it feels nicer.
although, I instantly used to throw up (so if I had had a big meal and had a cigarette it was a sure time i was going to vomit).
the association got reinforced and every time I smoked I threw up unless I breathed through it.

when I quit of course I could smell everything again, sweat, smoke, the state I had left my room in, and everything was repulsive. I feel like heroin deadens the senses, augments the way you feel things, like with pain (doesn't get rid of pain, just changes the way you feel it) and therefore a rebound smell sensation was enough to make me never want to smoke again.
similar things with alcohol, I can't hear so well so i yell, I can't smell so well so I smoke and the rush of that makes me want it more.

 

[Soccertrendy]

i used to get that bokey feeling, excactly how you speak of it. My best mate gts it aswell

same as if you smoked early morning??

wonder what causes that

 

[King Hop Head]

i was under the impression that smoking cigarettes onsets the release of (more) beta-endorphin(s) into the neurotransmitter pool, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. Combined with the heroin this creates a "stronger" effect in some aspects. Personally I just get more nauseous.

Nicotine taken when high on Opiates does make you feel even higher due to the addtionally Dopamine release, Nicotine does not have any (or at least cery little) impact on the Opioid system, that is already being stimulated by the Opiate taken.

Today I bought one of those Nictine mouth sprays and used it whilst high on Poppy Tea, man the euphoria was beyond belief, though I had ingested so much Nocotine I was dissy and woosy and found it hard to walk home with my weekend food shopping!

 

[ykm420]

I always smoke cigarettes no matter WHAT drug I'm on. But, nowdays I feel like cigarettes partially make my 'high' if that lessened. Although, I need to smoke them.