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Sorry for double post, I injected another 62mg and got another small buzz, nothing major. Then I injected a 125mg dose and got quite a nice buzz. But I still want that heavy nod that I've heard about! So I prepared a 250mg dose in 40 units of water but I'm scared this might be a bit heavy. Especially with 250mg already in my system. Can I leave it in the syringe and shoot it tomorrow?
 
Znegative said:
dude, hahaa, this brings me back to the first time me and my friend tried to shoot. we dropped a whole cotton ball in a cup full of water which was diluted with ONE bag!!

anyway its good to ask. .5 is more than enough for what you're doing (what I always use). you could easilly put two bags in 20 units of water, and I've seen people use less.
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I guess its better for the veins if you dont go sparingly on water. dj or someone posted some shit about it.
 
CaptainHero said:
Oh and could you guys try work in mg if you know how many mg your bags are? I'm struggling to work out how much each of you are referring to. (If I'm not mistaken, 95Land shoots 500mg-600mg right? That seems an awfully large amount...)
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Sorry about that. There was so many decimal points in that post, I confused myself a bit.
To clarify, the bags around here are probably more like 40-60mgs. 60-80mgs was probably a bit on the high side, as far as estimates go. I do 5-6 bag shots. My tolerance is pretty high(try to avoid that) and the bags are of varying quality here.
So 5-6 bags to get me off. Each bag weighing, lets say, 50mgs. I've been told each bag is SUPPOSED to weigh 100mgs. But with even the fattest bags I've seen, I'd estimate the weight at around 80mgs. So I typically shoot between 200-360mgs(I think.) Fucking math. Sometimes more, sometimes less. However, I am NOT recommending that amount.
Like I mentioned before, from state to state, and country to country, the quality, and quantity of bags/balloons/etc varies greatly.
You're doing the smart thing. Started small, and now are working your way up to a desirable amount. Just don't get too confident, and overshoot the amount. Be careful.
Shots break down fairly quickly if left in a syringe. I wouldn't recommend leaving it overnight. I've never tried it. How could you leave a prepped shot alone for that long?;) But I've been told, and read on here, that the main reason people don't leave shots prepped for the next day is because the dope will start to break down in the solution.
In the future, I'd definitely recommend waiting to prep your shot until you are for sure ready. I wouldn't do that much now. Maybe wait till later on in the night. Or maybe someone has a suggestion for how to preserve the prepped syringe. IDK.
 
CaptainHero said:
Sure thing, go for it. I'm not completely clued up on the usual posting etiquette around here so please point out anywhere I'm going wrong.
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No problem! We typically keep "self serving" threads to the mega threads or BDD, because we don't like threads in OD that are designed to only help out the OP. "OD Posting Guidelines" and "OD forum standards" briefly addresses this.

I'm going to merge it in the Heroin Mega Thread, and you'll have a link in OD for a week going to your post in the mega thread.

You can also go to your own profile, under Statistics, you can click "see all threads posted by CaptainHero" to see the threads you've posted it. I don't know if it'll still be there after I merge it though.

-> Heroin MT

187coopa said:
I guess its better for the veins if you dont go sparingly on water. dj or someone posted some shit about it.
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For drugs that are corrosive (pills that aren't micron filtered, or cocaine, for instance) you will want to dilute the shot as much as possible. With micron filtering, or using a pure/non corrosive substance, I can't see the harm in using just a few units, unless you miss (which would yield less of the drug missed).

However, when I use 10 units per shot with a new needle, I have basically no chance of missing, whereas with a, say, 40 unit shot with a new needle, I have a one in 20 or 50 chance of missing.

I prefer using less units per shot for this very reason, though if you aren't micron filtering or don't have pure/non-corrosive product, use more units for sure.
 
So I shot a bag total last night (supposedly 250mg) and it gave me less of a buzz than if I'd snorted it. I think maybe my preparation is wrong. I prepped another shot. A single bag in 40cc of water. I really gave it the heat until there was just a little bit of crap on the surface. I drew it up using a cotton ball and it's yellow in the syringe. Which has been left over night and I think i'll inject it out onto a spoon and reheat it and reload into a new syringe. Is this best or should I just shoot from the same syringe? It might as well have been left in a fridge with the cold weather we're getting here.

Another thing, seeing as I'm not getting as high as I would when snorting the same amount, could it be bad injecting? How the hell do you pull back to check for registration? Every time I try, I lose any registration I may have had. So now I'm just going for the big veins and assuming I'm in when I feel the slight pop. I feel no burning or anything when I inject. I'm still putting my arm under warm water after injecting anyway. What could be the possibilities for me not gettin as high as snorting? Cheers :)

EDIT: I'd had two beers a few hours before injecting the first shot. I don't know what difference that'd make.

EDIT EDIT: The bags look like this and are about the same size, I just want to check that these are 250mg bags http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F82/MAU0/FQJ6J4ZT/F82MAU0FQJ6J4ZT.MEDIUM.jpg
 
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^ For registering, once you are in your skin pull back on the plunger just enough to let a little air bubble in; then when you hit the vein the needle will flood with blood, no need to pull back while trying to stay in.
 
yeah getting the whole finding a vein, getting in it, registering, and injecting, while registering again in the middle of the shot ( i do that anyway ) all with one hand can take some practice.. but practice makes perfect, so think of it this way.. if you keep injecting.. someday you might graduate to full blown IV addict!! lol just playin, i have my history of IVing myself and im not proud of it, it's hard to break away from the needle. but i haven't IVed in a month and a half so im doin good =D !

PS.. listen to Mr Blonde on how to register.
 
CaptainHero said:
Sorry for double post, I injected another 62mg and got another small buzz, nothing major. Then I injected a 125mg dose and got quite a nice buzz. But I still want that heavy nod that I've heard about! So I prepared a 250mg dose in 40 units of water but I'm scared this might be a bit heavy. Especially with 250mg already in my system. Can I leave it in the syringe and shoot it tomorrow?
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No you shouldn't leave a prepped shot for tomorrow. Heroin will convert back to Morphine if left in solution for more then a couple hours.
 
I am going to merge this into the heroin mega thread, I would suggest reading the faq at the beginning and reading through some posts.
 
I've never heard of H dissolving in water alone. Should it not be mixed with some citric to break it down properly? If you have a low opiate tolerance and are using it IV, each hit should give you a head like an anvil on a spring...
 
^In the US the heroin is in hydrochloride form and so you don't need the citric acid. Its a different form in Europe.
 
Hcl is indeed Wonderfull ^ :)

Im probably moving to California in about a year or so though, so i still have a while to enjoy it but im sure as hell going to miss it. :(
 
CaptainHero said:
So I shot a bag total last night (supposedly 250mg) and it gave me less of a buzz than if I'd snorted it. I think maybe my preparation is wrong. I prepped another shot. A single bag in 40cc of water. I really gave it the heat until there was just a little bit of crap on the surface. I drew it up using a cotton ball and it's yellow in the syringe. Which has been left over night and I think i'll inject it out onto a spoon and reheat it and reload into a new syringe. Is this best or should I just shoot from the same syringe? It might as well have been left in a fridge with the cold weather we're getting here.

Another thing, seeing as I'm not getting as high as I would when snorting the same amount, could it be bad injecting? How the hell do you pull back to check for registration? Every time I try, I lose any registration I may have had. So now I'm just going for the big veins and assuming I'm in when I feel the slight pop. I feel no burning or anything when I inject. I'm still putting my arm under warm water after injecting anyway. What could be the possibilities for me not gettin as high as snorting? Cheers :)

EDIT: I'd had two beers a few hours before injecting the first shot. I don't know what difference that'd make.

EDIT EDIT: The bags look like this and are about the same size, I just want to check that these are 250mg bags http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F82/MAU0/FQJ6J4ZT/F82MAU0FQJ6J4ZT.MEDIUM.jpg
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you're using powder right? from usa? if so you shouldn't be heating at all, the powder will dissolve in ice cold water, any temperature water really, all heating will do is dissolve all the nasty cuts that are in the powder, you really don't want to heat powder h at all and get all that gross who knows what in your veins so it can just build up and maybe one day cause problems.. and yeah as soon as you break skin pull back a little bit and as soon as you hit a vein a big plume of (should be super dark) blood will shoot up, then you know you're in, try not to move at all and just push in.. it usually hurts when you miss and if you look close you can see your skin raise from the solution going in between skin and musicle or tissue.. and i agree with cocorosie and hdoubleodeezy, the needle is almost as hard to put down than the actual drug, be careful man, it's serious.. good luck to you.
 
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