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Heroin Heroin Mega Thread and FAQ

That "rock" heroin your talking about is what we mostly get here in the central Indiana area. It's basically compressed powder heroin. Usually the chunkier the better (less cut) but that's not always the case.

I can see this being the case; the only rock heroin I've ever seen was a 5 gram rock from Detroit. Could be a Canadian thing, since I know a lot of trafficking occurs over the river separating Detroit from Canada. Just speculation on my part, however.

~ vaya
 
I have some pretty good quality stuff but my nose is really bothering me from too much snorting. What is the best ROA aside from IV? IV is out of the question and my nose needs a big break. What would you guys recommend? Is smoking really a waste?
 
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I agree. Heroin is an amazingly potent drug. If it is pure, you will only need a very small "bump" and nothing more.

The first time I got it I couldn't get over how small the amount looked, but after snorting it I was more high than I needed to be.

Another example is ketamine. With pure ketamine, I can literally count out less than 10 crystals, inject it, and be really high. Another good example is cocaine. With pure cocaine, you won't need but a bump - any more and you're puking. If you inject that same bump you still will puke and get a great rush off of it.

Most drugs you see on the street aren't pure. However, with pure drugs, you'll need a very, very little bit (really much less than you would imagine).

Exactly. Most people don't realize how strong pure drugs are, especially H. I see people do huge rails of H that have never had it in very pure form and they just don't understand that something as small as a little bump can = their rail of what they call "good" stuff.

Pure coke has never made me really puke unless mixed with something, but again definitely a huge difference. Most people have skewed views on what they think is "great" or "pure" coke because they've never actually had it.
 
It's not that oxy isn't addictive, it just doesn't define your life like heroin does. I'm sure you know what I mean.
 
Ugh. Oxy made me do some nasty things my first time through. I don't think I'll ever get to that point again cuz I know what to expect. But I think anyone who goes into oxy ignoring the addiction potential is in for a world of hurt when they run out.
 
No I don't really know what you mean. Not at all-but to each their own man. Oxy pulled me into heroin (along with many). Oxy has taken over my life, my friends life, it's taken over the town I used to live in. So many people that are close to me are addicted, have OD'd, gotten jail sentences, all from oxy.

They are both powerful short acting highly addictive opiates

oxy is what took me in and fucked me got me addicted to opiates really really bad. in fact, I wouldnt done h if I wasnt heavily addicted dependant on oxy..

in my case oxy fucked me more even becuase it would fuck my finances up easy. I could easily spend over $200 a day and have it still not be enough.

I eventually was primarily using heroin becuase I would spend less than half the amount of money to be more than satisfied and get high for all day every day. honestly...i did better with dope because I wouldnt spend my paycheck in 3 days..even though i would still spend irresponsibly.

But yeah..IMO I dont really see them too differently aside from oxy being a straight rip off. I will say..if you IV, H..the rush..is definitely more addictive. I sniff though, and honestly, heroin is a little stronger/more sedating/longer high but pretty much I dont notice any difference from oxy. I use them both interchangably. In fact sometimes I prefer to get oxy if I have money to blow becuase of guaranteed potency.

Either way... oxy might not be addictive for you, but it definitely is for other people, look at this message board, its full of opiate addicts man. your crazy if you think you are doing your girl a favor by only giving them oxy and not giving them h. you are not keeping them out of harms way man, not at all.
 
^ I know very well that oxy is addictive. The only reason that I did oxy with her in the first place is because she's done it before. I also sniff dope, and I find it surprising that you don't see how the two are completely different worlds. I can do a good amount of oxy and not even think about it the next day. Right now, I'm chipping, and I think about heroin every day. It has a very unique but indescribable quality about it that oxy simply doesn't.
 
IV, just a few questions

Okay so I've been snorting for about a week now, only because I'd never managed to get round to getting needles until now. Got 30G 5/16" needles with a 0.5cc barrel. From what I can tell, 0.5cc is quite small but it's all they had. Will this be enough? I've been snorting 250mg in a night. 125mg hits with about an hour or two between them. And that gets me pretty high for a night. So how much should I shoot and how much can I fit into a 0.5cc syringe?
Thanks!:)
 
dude, hahaa, this brings me back to the first time me and my friend tried to shoot. we dropped a whole cotton ball in a cup full of water which was diluted with ONE bag!!

anyway its good to ask. .5 is more than enough for what you're doing (what I always use). you could easilly put two bags in 20 units of water, and I've seen people use less.
 
How much is a bag? What's a good dilution ratio of mg to units of water?

This varies. Greatly. Here in the northeastern part of the US we get dope in stamp bags. 10 bags to a bundle. In a perfect world, I believe one bag is supposed to weigh .1g. So it would be a gram per bundle. However, usually it's more like .6-.8g per bag.
I have no clue what you might be getting in your country. The type of dope(no. 4, scramble, tar, etc) effects how much weight should be used. Also, obviously, so does the potency.
I use roughly .8-.10 units for each bag. I typically do a 5-6 bag shot. I know a lot of people that use less. More like .5 units per bag. But I like a slightly larger shot(on average, probably 5 units) so I always use the 1cc rigs. For me, with the .5's, there's no room to pull back.
3-4 units is almost always more than enough. It doesn't matter too much. You don't want to dilute the fuck out of it, but with using a .5, the chances of that happening are very slim. As long as the dope dissolves completely(leaving just the cut floating) you should be fine.
 
ok, heroin dissolves completely in water, what get's caught in the cotton you don't want in your rig most likely. I'm from new york, and the amount of dope that comes in one bag will ammount to about a one inch line I would say. I can disolve that in as little as 10 units, though I usually use 15-20. .5 rigs are good I think, I started out using these. Your best bet to make sure you don't miss, is to practice with sterile water. Or if you have a friend with you, fix each other up. I'm not sure what kind of needle you have, but the .5's I got, the barrells are the same circumferance as the 1 cc needles, but they're half as long. This makes it easier for me to work the plunger. Everyone's different though.

I remember the first time someone showed me how to prepare heroin properly in a syringe. I was shocked by how little water they used. It might look like you couldn't possibly be getting all the drug with that much, but you are, believe me.

I also wanted to ask you if the dope you're planning to inject is from the same batch that you've been snorting? If it is, then I would try shooting a little bit less, because you'll be getting 100% of the drug, and it's going to hit your brain immediately. For safety's sake, and for the sake of not trying to push your tolerance up too fast, you'll want to start out with a little less. Also, make sure you're sitting down, or on a bed or a couch. The first time this kid fixed me up in a rehab, I collapsed, and probably would have hurt myself had their not been a bed behind you. Also, if you don't feel the shot immediately, do not do another shot right away. This means you missed, but even a missed shot will get you high, and you don't want to overdose.
If your buying your dope today, or whenever you plan to do it, still test it out first by doing a very small amount. Just because it's from the same dealer, or comes in the same bag, doesn't mean it's the same product.
 
I just shot a quarter of a bag (approx 62mg) while listening to Radiohead. It's from the same batch I've been snorting (which has been giving consistent results).
Uh, I mixed it on a spoon and used only a little heat cause this thread says that if it's the powder, you don't need to. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=396038&highlight=heroin+water+dilution
I put it on a spoon and added about 35 units of water and mixed it up quite a lot with the end of the plunger. Then I scrunched up a piece of earbud that I cut off (I think earbud = Q tip) and put it on the end of the needle and dipped it into the mixture and kept pulling back until I couldnt draw any more liquid. Then I tapped out the air bubbles.
Tied off my upper arm with a belt with the cord in my mouth so that it would come undone if I pulled. Found the vein in my elbow without much trouble. Only problem then was trying to draw back to check if I actually had the vein. Managed to pull back a tiny bit and saw a minor amount of blood so I went for it and injected. Felt nothing except a slight 'alien' feeling towards the end of the shot (which was about 30 units). No burning or anything.

Is this all correct? I'm feeling a good small high coming on. My arm is feeling slightly funny but nothing major. Would I need to shoot more to nod? I prepped two shots at the beginning, both the same. When would be ideal to shoot the next?
Thanks again :)

Oh and could you guys try work in mg if you know how many mg your bags are? I'm struggling to work out how much each of you are referring to. (If I'm not mistaken, 95Land shoots 500mg-600mg right? That seems an awfully large amount...)
 
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