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Heroin Heroin Mega Thread and FAQ

It's my first time with heroin & I was planing on snorting it, but I'm really unsure about how much to do - anyone give a little help? This whole 'start off with a small amount' just seems really vague to me as I'm really used to playing with RCs & getting accurate mg dose guides.

So, what should I start with 20 or 30mg? Less / more?

I don't have any tolerance to opiates.


EDIT//Nevermind. Started low & had a few bumps to get to a nice place. :)
 
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So I live in the west, not west coast, I guess what is specifically called the Mtn West (ie Nevada, utah, southern idaho, southwest wyoming) but around here heroin is almost always tar and the only names I have heard it called are dope, black, and cheese. Also since the trade is dominated very heavily by Hispanics it is often referred to as Negra. I was surprised to see that no one else refers to it as cheese. Has anyone else heard this term?

I've heard, from quite a few people, that most of you out there in the "Western Mountain" states have it pretty bad when it comes to dope. I guess your tar comes up thru us (SoCal) or (Mess with) Texas, gets cut, then travels to the next in-between destination, gets cut again.. By the time it gets to you guys, it must be so, so stomped into fetal-position submission of cataclysmic death. However, I'm sure there are some good connects, hiding among the faceless millions..

I'm on the southern west coast.. and I have heard of and seen "Cheese" dope. Supposedly, any one "hit" or whatever of this stuff is:

15% = very small amount of already-cut, average black tar - which is thrown into a coffee grinder and mixed into...
85% = anything from Tylenol PM to Benadryl (specifically, it's Diphenhydramine they're going after) and some filler; probably lactose.

I've only come across this utterly low, low garbage once in the LA area, while unable to cop anything decent one evening.. Later, I heard that its purveyor folded up his wack-ass scam soon after. With all the high-purity, low-cut forms of tar in the SoCal area, that "Cheese" bullshit literally has no business being anywhere near this place.

Now, perhaps some raw dope - gray or beige or whatever - and even your average east coast powder - would definitely find many a set of open arms here...hahahah
Oye Colombianos.. Que vengan y traigan tu heroina blanca aqui al sur de California, para que nosotros podemos cambiar lo que usamos! El chiva negro, al colombiano blanco, y para atras. Vengan, cono!
 
I tried heroin for the first time today, i got a $20 bag from my guy (idk the quantity i got, he just said 20 bucks), started off with a small line didn't feel much, kept doing small lines and eventually finished the bag within an hour or 1.5 hours and i didn't feel anything from it. Could it be that i got ripped off? or maybe My tolerence to opaites might be kind of high, ive been doing oxy every day for the past week 75-90mg somedays. I think it was real H, it was in a wax rectangle package that was stamped with the word "Earthquake". I'm really bummed, i was expecting H to be amazing.

The stamp review thread is in drug culture, I checked some reviews for you. There were "Earthquake 7.0" stamps with a shaken up house on the stamp. If yours just said earthquake on them then it was different.
To sum it up they were mostly given an average 5/10 rating on both quality and quantity.
So IME this would equate to ~40mg oxycontin. So if you didn't feel the effects of about a 40mg oxy than you were ripped off. I would suggest buying 3 bags, but only doing them 1 at a time. Quality varies, so 1 may be enough but with your tolerance will be safe to take even if its really good.

I just saw that a poster said that there were 4 different earthquake stamps since haiti. The one that said just Earthquake were reviewed as 2/10 meaning garbage, just a tiny bit of actualy dope, but mostly cut.
 
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http://www.slate.com/id/2242828/entry/2242871/
THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT A SAFE INJECTION SITE IN CANADA

I'm impressed, as I usually am with anything to do with Canada. I've spent a lot of time in Canada throughout my life and it is a great great great place. Whenever i cross the boarded i feel like i didn't know i was holding my breath and all of a sudden i'm taking deep non-anxious breaths.
canada leaves people be and barely prosecutes drug users. not like where i'm from where we are the polices favorite target!!!!
 
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You probably got ripped off. Maybe it was somewhat active but probably really shitty. If your tolerance is 90mg oxy a day a legit 20 bag would go wayy past that

I tried heroin for the first time today, i got a $20 bag from my guy (idk the quantity i got, he just said 20 bucks), started off with a small line didn't feel much, kept doing small lines and eventually finished the bag within an hour or 1.5 hours and i didn't feel anything from it. Could it be that i got ripped off? or maybe My tolerence to opaites might be kind of high, ive been doing oxy every day for the past week 75-90mg somedays. I think it was real H, it was in a wax rectangle package that was stamped with the word "Earthquake". I'm really bummed, i was expecting H to be amazing.

Also, you said it was stamped 'earthquake.' sounds like your east coast getting powder. If you payed $20 for the stamp bag you also got ripped off in 2 ways, over paid by atleast double and got bunk shit. What state you in?
 
Good heroin, in my experience in NYC, equates to about 80 mg of oxy per bag, sometimes more. However, there always is shit on the streets which is more like 20 mg per bag or less, cut shit.
 
Bags vary in potency way too much to make that a rule. The first time I sniffed an entire bag of what I believe was decent 6-7/10 stuff and was in heaven for 8 hours. Half a bag of great heroin would be a good dose for someone who has never done it before, any less or a bump like you're talking about would be kind of weak even if it was some firey stuff.

Sorry but I guess I was getting some amazing stuff back then and yes...that small dose was right.
Any more and I was puking my brains out.
So I disagree that you disagree:)

Plus you can always do more 10 minutes later if your not where you wanna be x
 
Sorry but I guess I was getting some amazing stuff back then and yes...that small dose was right.
Any more and I was puking my brains out.
So I disagree that you disagree:)

Plus you can always do more 10 minutes later if your not where you wanna be x

I agree. Heroin is an amazingly potent drug. If it is pure, you will only need a very small "bump" and nothing more.

The first time I got it I couldn't get over how small the amount looked, but after snorting it I was more high than I needed to be.

Another example is ketamine. With pure ketamine, I can literally count out less than 10 crystals, inject it, and be really high. Another good example is cocaine. With pure cocaine, you won't need but a bump - any more and you're puking. If you inject that same bump you still will puke and get a great rush off of it.

Most drugs you see on the street aren't pure. However, with pure drugs, you'll need a very, very little bit (really much less than you would imagine).
 
Yeah for first timers with no tolerance H seems really potent at first. I was nodding out my first time using just 1/3 of a stamp bag! But tolerance is a bitch...
 
Yeah for first timers with no tolerance H seems really potent at first. I was nodding out my first time using just 1/3 of a stamp bag! But tolerance is a bitch...

"The worst thing in the world is tolerance" -Me
been saying that for years.
 
2) Draw clean water into your needle. Tap water is not ideal. Bottled water is much better, but sterile saline is your best choice. A needle is measured in units. 100 units = 1cc = 1ml. There is no minimum or maximum amount of water that you must use. Some say less water means less dilution and quicker onset, but that is a subjective claim and has never been proved
Seems like more surface area = faster absorption. Input?
 
More water the better, due to less irritating solution. It seems that veins hold up much better in people who use larger amounts of water to mix up with.

Also, regarding water sources, check out this from Exchange Supplies

Hierarchy of water safety:

1) Unopened Ampoule of Sterile Water

2) Water boiled in a kettle

3) Cold water freshly run from a kitchen tap

4) Bottled water

5) Hot water from a tap

6) Toilet water

7) Puddle water

8) Part used ampoule of water for injection
 
Rock Heroin?

I am a little confused as to what is this rock like heroin. It comes solid like it is broke off a brick. Me assuming not further cut. I just saw something on number 3 and 4 heroin. Also if it's ok for me to ask here. What is the typical street cost per gram.
 
That "rock" heroin your talking about is what we mostly get here in the central Indiana area. It's basically compressed powder heroin. Usually the chunkier the better (less cut) but that's not always the case. I've gotten all loose powder that has been better then chunk but for the most part it's always better to have that chunky monkey! Same way with the yayo..
 
in the name of "harm reduction" I would never give an opiate naive person dope for their first time even if they were lortab fiend, I almost had someone od on me and will never allow someone to "try" dope for their first time with me ever again.
 
I completely agree with morph in the above post...I would not wish opiate addiction or a needle habit on MY WORST enemy let alone a friend....I had a friend turn on his 18 yo girlfriend....and 2 months later she...what do you think'd? Gone. Life is precious...treat it thusly.
 
I've done oxys with my friend who is like my sis. She asked me if I'd let her try some of my dope and I strongly refused. If I let happen to her what has already happened to me (which isn't that bad) or worse, I'd kill myself.
 
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