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Heroin Heroin Mega Thread and FAQ

There's some amount of alcohol in the gel, so maybe thats it? Whoever talked about lighting the gel directly on fire needs to find a new way to smoke it (on foil or in a meth pipe).
It would work in a double boiler like dude two posts up said, but I can't imagine what the results would be a pain in the ass. Even the largest patch would leave you only 10mg in the plate, and thats almost too small to see and a bitch to deal with.
Considering you can use the gel fine in its existing form, I don't see why you would bother with that process. Although it does make sense for things like ketamine, since people who don't want to inject it want to snort it usually, and there's a gram per vial, so the yield is easier to see and deal with. (1000mg vs. 10mg)
 
aaarrggghhhh... it makes me ill, to read how the majority of u guys can, do, and will be getting on... far out i couldnt get high to save my life im in perth australia and i have been out of the game so long that i wouldnt know where to start...even though I'd so dearly love to, just to feel that warm touch of an opiate high.... I guess im too slack, old, over it or something, to go chasing it... ([don't] will i get busted for asking that [yes] 8o hhmmm... ) well... merry xmas every one hope that saint opius brought many of u a nice stone and im hoping he brings me one ;)

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Depends how you do it - 30 seconds or so if you do it right
 
There is no way it can kick in in 30 seconds. That's completely impossible. It's probably more like 3 - 10 minutes.
 
^ Absolutely. In fact, 5 - 15 is what should be expected. 30 seconds is impossible.
 
The information found on Bluelight -

If I'd had this information 4 years ago I might have saved my veins. I shot tar several times a day for about 6 months (4 years ago) because i could afford it. I ruined my best veins. I'm not scarred up. They just didn't work anymore. no blood.

When I was younger and living in Michigan I IV'd heroin (powder) off and on for eight years. never lost a vein. (not several times a day). After moving to SoCal all I could find was chiva (tar). I was so happy at first. but I had no information 'bout how dirty and impure it is. I was just excited to be living in the Golden State and have plenty of money for drugs.

other posts to come
 
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^ Absolutely. In fact, 5 - 15 is what should be expected. 30 seconds is impossible.

30 seconds is eminently possible - if you do it right. Here's the text from a UK harm reduction pamphlet on the topic (look for the line "the liquid and the drugs will be absorbed in under 30 seconds"):

Up Your Bum

How far will you go before you try an alternative?

Warning: Contains explicit information for injecting drug users

A quick and safer alternative to injecting

Sticking drugs up your bum has been done by both drug users and pain control specialists for many years. Up Your Bum (UYB) is a quick and easy way of taking drugs that’s safer than injecting.

You may choose to use UYB all the time or some of the time, to replace injecting or only when fixing might be too risky. Just remember it’s your health, it’s your choice.

• It’s quick and easy to do.
• There’s no needle so unless you tear the inside of your rectum there’s no blood. This means there’s much less risk of getting HIV and hepatitis B and C.
• Your bum is used to dealing with bacteria so putting drug UYB is not going to give your insides big problems.
• You get a fast hit and rush.
• The anus (outside of your bum) has two muscles which act like a double seal to avoid leaks.
• No needle means less risk.

Non-injectors
While UYB is a safer alternative for injectors it carries greater risks than other non-injecting ways of taking drugs such as smoking, swallowing or snorting. Drugs taken UYB have a faster and fuller effect than when smoked, for example – so take care.

How to do it
• Before you start UYB go to the toilet if you think you might need to and then wash your hands.
• Prepare the drugs in a spoon as you would for injection.
• Remember to use a separate set of equipment for each person.
• Draw the drugs into the barrel. You don’t need to use a needle. You can draw the liquid straight into a barrel. The filter is optional.
• Don’t use more than 1.5ml of water to avoid flooding your bum.
• Once you have drawn the drugs into the barrel you are ready to go. Wipe some spit or lubricant on your anus to help ease the barrel in.
• Make a farting motion to open up your anus. Push the barrel in one centimetre. No further or the drug won’t come on fast.
• While sitting, squatting or standing release the farting motion and gently squirt in the liquid.
• Withdraw the barrel and dispose of it in a sharps bin.
• The two muscles in your anus act as a double seal to prevent leakage. The liquid and drugs will be absorbed quickly (in under 30 seconds) and that’s all there is to it.
• Wash your hands. If you don’t you could contaminate your remaining drugs or your clean using equipment.

UYB Take Care
• Be careful not to tear or cut the inside of your rectum as there may be a risk of spreading blood borne viruses if you share barrels.
• Even if you don’t have tears or cuts you can still spread infections or viruses like hepatitis A if you share barrels.
• With UYB the risk of overdosing is just as high as with injecting. So remember to avoid mixing benzos and alcohol with heroin or cut your dose if you’re pissed or pilled up.
• Having squirted drugs up your bum, you may feel a sudden urge to squirt them back out again! This is rare but don’t panic as you have to hold it in for 30 seconds for the drugs to be absorbed.
• If you regularly squirt cocaine or crack up your bum then you might limit the flow of blood to the rectum and cause serious damage inside your bum. You can reduce the risk by taking breaks from using or by switching between different ways of using cocaine or crack.

Why does it work?
You have a rich blood supply around the rectum. The bottom third of the rectum is supplied by a set of blood vessels that lead directly to the heart. By inserting the drugs slowly while you are in an upright position, gravity will make sure the drugs reach the right part of the rectum to give you the best rush. UYB is quicker than intramuscular or skin popping. It’s the best rush without injecting into veins.

What kit do I need?
You will need your own spoon and any other equipment you usually use for making up your drug ready for fixing. A barrel (smaller the better to avoid damaging the inside of your bum) and a water-based lubricant like KY Jelly.

Sex & Drugs
Anal sex or playing with sex toys potentially increases the risk of passing on infection as it may lead to tearing or cuts in the wall of your rectum. To protect yourself from sexually transmitted infections (STIs) you should always use an appropriate condom for vaginal and anal sex.

Don’t share barrels. Use a new barrel each time you use. Mark your barrel to stop it being accidentally used by another person.

Some drugs like cocaine may numb the inside of your bum making it difficult to tell if you’ve damaged it.

So Remember
• Treat your rectum with care to avoid tearing or cuts.
• Don’t share barrels.
• If you put drugs UYB, they’ll come on faster and harder like with injecting.
• Don’t worry about leaks. Pushing the barrel deeper up your bum won’t work as well.
• You don’t use a needle!

Warning
This handbook is designed to help injecting drug users to move away from injecting to reduce health risks. This handbook should not be shown to anyone other than injecting drug users.

Written by Matthew Southwell © 2005-2008 HIT UK LTD

If it takes longer, it's due to squirting the drugs too far up your bowel, or not remaining upright to keep your drug solution in your rectum.

If it doesn't work at all, it could be due to absorption into (compacted) faeces in your rectum - not altogether unlikely if you are a regular opioid user

Happy shafting :)
 
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30 second absorption is probably under ideal conditions. How many heroin users live under "ideal conditions?" Not very many.

Show me one person who actually has had it hit in 30 seconds and I'll believe it.
 
The information found on Bluelight -

If I'd had this information 4 years ago I might have saved my veins. I shot tar several times a day for about 6 months (4 years ago) because i could afford it. I ruined my best veins. I'm not scarred up. They just didn't work anymore. no blood.

When I was younger and living in Michigan I IV'd heroin off and on for eight years. never lost a vein. (not several times a day). After moving to SoCal all I could find was chiva (tar). I was so happy at first. but I had no information 'bout how dirty and impure it is. I was just excited to be living in the Golden State and have plenty of money for drugs.

other posts to come

Michigan is all powder heroin of decent potency very good.
 
I love Detroit's heroin. Of course, I've never had it from anywhere else, but 9 times out of 10, I have no complaints for the shit we get around here.
 
^ Absolutely. In fact, 5 - 15 is what should be expected. 30 seconds is impossible.

Ok, it may not be impossible, but it is unlikely. Most users who go the rectal route are not going to be working with the ideal conditions required for such a fast onset, so if you plug something and it doesn't kick in in 30 seconds, don't give up hope.
 
do people here really find that plugging heroin is comparable to IV'ing? I get no rush whatsoever from plugging it, in fact if I couldn't IV for whatever reason, I'd rather snort it.
 
I've tried to plug twice and didn't really notice much of an effect. This may be b/c as a regular methadone & heroin user, I am constantly constipated. I would think most opiate users would have similar issues. I'd rather snort.
 
^ That's exactly what I mean by "ideal conditions," and exactly why I was saying there is a very slim chance it will take anywhere near 30 seconds to kick in. It's just not likely at all.
 
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