Heroin makes me happy
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I functioned as a addict but i did once take my moms tramadol while she visiting me and my wife from states and helped her look for them for a hour knowing they in my car and i do heroin but thought might come in handy and the old dear called her doctor and he sent email with her script to her GP here she used when here and my wife did the calls and i watched
SpiralusSancti
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No, that’s an well educated guess and stance vast majority of scientist in field of neurochemistry have.
I never really went into how the fuck my brain knocked me out to save me of enormous pain and danger but I’ve read books about brain chemistry and related things. Never in any of thousand upon thousands of pages I have read on that topic I have ever encountered anything suggesting you are right but generation of scientist are wrong. I’m not counting “scientist” hypothesizing about and creating orgon machine and getting heart attack before aliens saved him from prison....
Thought I have read or heard many times people claiming same thing like you, but it was for for CB1 and CB2, “psychedelic receptors”, PCP receptors and what not and every and each time, endogenous chemical was discovered after some time.
A lots of interesting things happen to child entering world and developing into adult and as much interesting things happen on a ride from adulthood to ashes…. Man we are not even close to understanding many mechanisms of all kinds of chemicals having effects in human body, both ingested or confirmed naturally present. Man, new ORGANS are still being discovered and you think there ain’t bunch of chemicals in brain we still haven’t discovered!!! Hardly any substances effects are wholly understood, both in terms of pharmacology and pharmacokinetics and you think “Mechanism by which this X drug works is still mostly unknowns” means what? That we wont ever discover or that it’s some kind of UFO technology beyond human dimension?
I wonder what’s your thoughts about chemicals first synthesized and than discovered in nature? Like lot of amphs in Acacia or what about African plant with tramadol, bunch of tryptamines and phens first synthesised and found in at least as much plants. Do you think universal vibe upon birth of tramadol shook the foundation of universe and plant thought fuck this, me gona fight big pharma? Why do you think people used only leafs containing no tramadol and did not use roots that do contain tramadol? Could it be people that black people still didn’t evolve those receptors many moons ago when they started using it so found pure SNRI action rather unpleasant?
Do you ever wonder how antique Mediterranean people figured out poppies produce tears of god, could the reason behind it be that god Morpheus landed down from mothership and showed them how deep to cut so that bitter-sweet panacea exits pod and enters podium of human race and that’s why they decided to call it tears of god? Or maybe, just maybe they saw bunch of sap after some natural event and figured it out without god of endogenus molecules (dreams) Morphesus?
axe battler
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^^I like to think other animals and ancient humans or our relatives were munching them and getting high even earlier than the 5000BC estimate. I mean, they're pretty conspicuous and full of protein packed seeds. Why not?
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I never used heroin thankfully, but when I would take pharmaceutical opiates such as morphine, Oxycodone, hydrocodone, and codeine tablets and syrup, it worked excellent for pain, but the nausea, feeling as though I was going to vomit, super itchy body, stomach cramps when coming down, sedation, and zoning out/nodding were all not fun. It was fun taking them for an evening of watching films, reading, playing videogames or computer games with friends, when bored in classes or at work, and yes even exercising. Oxycodone made me sort of hyper and it was fun to swim on low doses, and I actually loved kicking around a football with friends for fun.
They went well with Indica herb and were synergistic in that both drugs became almost too intense at times. I did not like how with opiates I could not drink alcohol on them. Yes I know people do it all the time, but since I liked to have a few or lots of drinks depending on where I was, it was best to never do this, or get into the habit of mixing downers as many people have overdosed from doing this.
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Yeah fentanyl fucking sucks. The heroin high is so much better and way different. I quit heroin when fentanyl started taking over because everyone had china white all of a sudden when usually in my area of the world it was black tar 90 percent of the time and when I tried this China white I overdosed like 5 out of the 10 times I tried it and the high was way different much less euphoric than really good tar.
SpiralusSancti
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Given how many animals do drugs, yeah, more likely than not all Human sp. also did if they lived where something psychoactive was abundant. I think documentary about all kinds of animal doing all kinds of drugs is called “Weird nature”.
What’s even more fantastic than animals doing drugs ares animals using non-psychoactive medicine because of how much harder is to figure out what work. Great example is orangutans that chew up leafs of plat with anti-imflamatory or pain-relief, forgot what of those two and than apply paste they made on an elbow that hurts them, and next generation will also make such topical oinament.
What’s even more fantastic than animals doing drugs ares animals using non-psychoactive medicine because of how much harder is to figure out what work. Great example is orangutans that chew up leafs of plat with anti-imflamatory or pain-relief, forgot what of those two and than apply paste they made on an elbow that hurts them, and next generation will also make such topical oinament.
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I tried methadone maintenance twice and never got anything like a high from it but I hear ppl saying they get high on it all the time. Maybe I didn’t take enough? My highest dose was 60mg but I even triple that with my take home doses and never felt high shrug
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It doesn’t make you a piece of shit like someone else said it does. The action isn’t good but I bet you felt guilty and maybe even shame about doing it.
In my dark days of true opiate addiction I have been there. I got so low I was boosting from stores and getting 800 dollar Lowe’s gift cards to trade to my dealer who used it to remodel houses that he bought to wash his money.
And even lower I stole prescriptions from my girl at the time who didn’t ever use them. I mean they were like a year old. But then one day she was in really bad pain and went looking for them
I felt guilty as fuck.
Not excusing it but it’s as if I’m the darkest of my heroin days it was like I was possessed and would do things only a demon would do to get my drugs. I mean I was aware but felt like I had no control.
So glad I been off all opiates but kratom for a year.
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That's interesting to read. I haven't tried heroin (and neither I intend to) but my father that smoked heroin for almost a lifetime (+30 years, with some breaks of one full year sobriety here and there and scarce months sometimes in between detoxs) and I always found 'surprising' how absolutely selfish and manipulatory he would get on some occasions in order to get the daily fix.It doesn’t make you a piece of shit like someone else said it does. The action isn’t good but I bet you felt guilty and maybe even shame about doing it.
In my dark days of true opiate addiction I have been there. I got so low I was boosting from stores and getting 800 dollar Lowe’s gift cards to trade to my dealer who used it to remodel houses that he bought to wash his money.
And even lower I stole prescriptions from my girl at the time who didn’t ever use them. I mean they were like a year old. But then one day she was in really bad pain and went looking for them
I felt guilty as fuck.
Not excusing it but it’s as if I’m the darkest of my heroin days it was like I was possessed and would do things only a demon would do to get my drugs. I mean I was aware but felt like I had no control.
So glad I been off all opiates but kratom for a year.
90% of the time he was 'functional' user (or at least it looked like that), but maybe 10% of time there would be this binges (who knows, maybe good batches that suddenly gets you euphoria again so you start using more and more again) that would make his behaviour quite nasty.
I say this because I never understood WHY. Like I can understand if you are on a Coke, Meth or whatever stim binge, where the drug effects themselves really can make you a madman, manic and out of your mind to keep using. But never understood it with heroin, having tried almost the rest of opiates I could never understand why someone would get that manipulatory and 'single-point-focused' to score. I like the effects of them but I dont see them as such a compulsive drive to put your mind in the mindset of "Use today or die".
But maybe heroin has something particular and especially appealing that make one sacrifice all other priorities in life. I guess I like to think that instead of just judgement like I used to do. I believe there are no bad or good persons, just people trying to feel as good as they can with different tools in their toolbox. And sometimes certain toolbox can wreck havoc.
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He was probably rattling. It used to king of shock me how much of an obstinate cunt I could be when cornered, especially in withdrawal . Opiates eat some people's soul.
Or sometimes opiates can make you irritable as fuck, weird I know, but yeah people get "heroin rage". I'd get it all the time on codeine. Also, heroin can massively disinhibiting. He could have just been mean I suppose.
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I call heroin addiction slavery to the drug to me thats what it is it comes before everything . Even though i functioned and got lucky going into a business with my cousin i missed so much of my kids growing up .It doesn’t make you a piece of shit like someone else said it does. The action isn’t good but I bet you felt guilty and maybe even shame about doing it.
In my dark days of true opiate addiction I have been there. I got so low I was boosting from stores and getting 800 dollar Lowe’s gift cards to trade to my dealer who used it to remodel houses that he bought to wash his money.
And even lower I stole prescriptions from my girl at the time who didn’t ever use them. I mean they were like a year old. But then one day she was in really bad pain and went looking for them
I felt guilty as fuck.
Not excusing it but it’s as if I’m the darkest of my heroin days it was like I was possessed and would do things only a demon would do to get my drugs. I mean I was aware but felt like I had no control.
So glad I been off all opiates but kratom for a year.
During my first child my wife was in labor I was getting the anxiety of the need to smoke some brown told her I'm going to the hospital canteen to get some sandwiches i going to my car i had just started my nearly 2 decades on it . I smoked some and nodded then fell asleep. As my wife walking around her delivery suite she looked out the window to the car park and saw me asleep . Saturdays she would take the kids out to the stores would i go like fuck i thought it the perfect opportunity to smoke gear in peace . My kids have seen me nodding .. Taking kids out for the day would first think about where i could do the gear . M y eldest is 16 now and they well at school had good home life well mannered and great not down to me my wife did that all i did was bring in the money to run house .
My wife, we been going out since sophomores in high school and she has had my back through the crank coke heroin pregabalin addictions . I have tried to get clean lasted a month max so now on maintenance and I'm settled its working but the guilt the missed years i never get them back . My daughter told me this is what she feels about me that she glad i am her dad its a tear jerker for me .
Like axe battler said when you start getting a rattle the anxiety going your ringing your dealer he does not answer and every other cunt not about it consumes you that wait in the car while your fucking dealer who said 10 min but now its been a hour punching the steering wheel and imagining how your going to kill the cunt when he gets here. He arrives you say fuck all because your just relived you got your gear
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its so true lol thats literally how it goes. Then eventually that dealer robs you or gets arrested and you gotta find a new one and then you may get robbed a couple times in the mean while trying to find a new dealer. You can go to the hood and ask around but for someone who is black like me that is ill advised
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@yubacity ^^yup yup yup. I got onto maintenance before my son was born, but unfortunately I fell straight into benzo addiction. Then my would be Mrs OD'd and that's when I decided the needle and crack would help me through...
Only just pulled my head out of my arse a few months ago. It's been 4 years now, and still hurts like fuck but I can't just be blitzed through my kid's entire childhood, I already feel like shit.
Only just pulled my head out of my arse a few months ago. It's been 4 years now, and still hurts like fuck but I can't just be blitzed through my kid's entire childhood, I already feel like shit.
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Jesus your wife OD'd and died? I'm so sorry dude, how many children do you have?\
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Just one. He's only 5, so not past the point of no return YET, but was extremely fucking close.
Was a month before our wedding too, she wasn't quite my wife, but that seems to sting even more in a way .
Was a month before our wedding too, she wasn't quite my wife, but that seems to sting even more in a way .
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its just a term dude the feelings that are felt cant be quantified into a word maybe love is what we call it
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Pray tell exactly what ignorance and propaganda I'm spreading here?
I'll give you the 'annoying' bit though...
I am sorry my brother i could not imagine what i would do if it happened to me the pain must be all-consuming from the time you wake up to when you go to sleep I think most of us would do exactly what you doing its you just trying to forget and just lifrt the darkness.
Guilt for your kid you will feel it for these 4 years . But it is nothing in your kids life you can retrieve it he wont remember these early years start now and you two will be tight when your older . My old man beat the cunt out of me no hugs kisses i love you son we had all the material things but no love from him and now her dead i could have forgiven the broken ribs the fear if only i would have got one hug and love you son from him .
I always tell people it's not material things a child remembers when he is older its the love. It is nowhere too late for you my brother so tell your child love tell him every day and everything else will be fine .
For yourself that pain will always be there but once the gear wears of it only feels worse and you adding the guilt of your child and I'm sure your wife would not want you to go down this route .